Odyssey & Alchemy: Men's Inner Transformation and Depth Psychology with Martin Prihoda
Frank Mesa spent 30 years at MTA Metro-North — starting as an assistant conductor and working his way to Chief Operations Training Officer, responsible for developing 7,000 employees in one of America's most demanding and high-stakes environments. Then he walked away and started over. A conversation about executive coaching, men's inner work, and the psychology of radical reinvention. In this episode, Frank breaks down his ERD framework — Evolve, Revolve, or Devolve — a decision-making system he developed to interrupt emotional and habitual reactions and consciously choose the path forward. It's simple, it's practical, and it works. We get into emotional intelligence, frustration tolerance, and why communication clarity can make or break a career. We talk about what it took to rise from entry level to the executive suite, the real dynamics of being a large Black man in corporate America, and why Frank is a fierce believer in meritocracy over entitlement. And we close on something every man needs to hear right now — Frank's answer to what men need that nobody is giving them. This one has edge, honesty, and hard-won wisdom. Topics covered: * The ERD decision-making framework — evolve, revolve, or devolve * Emotional intelligence and frustration tolerance as career superpowers * Leading transformation inside a century-old institution * Meritocracy, DEI, and the railroad standard * Race, stature, and navigating power dynamics in corporate America * Men's identity, masculinity, and self-belief * What Frank knows now that he wishes someone told him at 30 Connect with Frank Mesa: Mesa Solutions Inc. | Author of Alchemy — It's As Easy As ERD If this conversation moved something in you, a rating or review helps more men find this work. Martin's book, The Weary Traveller's Guide to a Life Worth Living, is available now. Odyssey & Alchemy is a weekly long-form interview podcast on inner transformation — men's work, spirituality, mindfulness, and depth psychology — hosted by Martin Prihoda, author of The Weary Traveller. Deep, unhurried conversations with therapists, teachers, yogis, and healers, for men ready to do the inner work. 📖 The Weary Traveller: [book link] 🌐 martinprihoda.com [http://martinprihoda.com] | alchemynow.ca [http://alchemynow.ca]
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