33: With Exiles, You Can't Skip to the End

35: Dressing for Your Venus Sign: Style as Self-Expression and Protection

You are listening to Parts & Charts: The IFS and Astrology Podcast. Be sure to subscribe here on Substack and follow — available on Apple Podcasts [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/parts-charts-the-ifs-and-astrology-podcast/id1819784738], Spotify [https://open.spotify.com/show/2iR7QcdimkXeGQ0HPTl14M], and wherever you get your podcasts. Parts & Charts is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. Dressing for Your Venus: Style as Subject Matter, Protection, and Play KP and Chelsea just spent a week together in San Francisco — an in-person workshop, one impulsive shared tattoo (a Gertrude Stein line, worn now by three people who all met through cards), and by the time they sat down to record, a listener request had been waiting: how do you actually dress for your Venus sign? Neither of them wanted to give the version of this answer that’s already everywhere — Venus in Aries, wear red. So the episode becomes something closer to a working session between two frameworks than a style guide. They lay it out early: Venus doesn’t just point to a color, it points to a subject matter — the material a placement is drawn to make sense of in the world, whether that shows up in a wardrobe or an entire body of work. Chelsea’s Gemini Venus wants variety and synthesis, the instinct to hold two unrelated things until a third thing appears between them — a design impulse she recognizes in the crocheted pants she makes, because nothing in a store has ever quite matched the flash in her head. KP’s Scorpio Venus wants texture and secrecy, a piece of jewelry with history already built into it, the specific comfort of something that costs a little to look at directly. From there they map rising, moon, and Venus against yin and yang, and the pattern holds uncomfortably well. Chelsea’s placements land entirely yang — Leo rising, Leo moon, Gemini Venus. KP’s land entirely yin — Capricorn rising, Cancer moon, Scorpio Venus. It explains, retroactively, why Chelsea’s attempt to dress KP in bright pink during the visit met an immediate, full-body no. The conversation turns, as it tends to on this show, from placement to protection. KP names the gap between the version of a dress that looks perfect online and the one that arrives and grates against her actual skin — an aspirational self reaching for something the felt self isn’t ready to wear. Chelsea meets this with her clinical lens directly: this is parts territory. A protective part reaching for volume, or for invisibility, isn’t always distinguishable from self-expression in the moment — the same “weird” outfit can be armor or announcement, and the only way to know which is to ask the part what it’s actually defending. They trade their own evidence. Chelsea’s clown-phase jumpsuits, loud on purpose, later softened into something more specific and less defended. KP’s reading glasses, worn in public whether she needs them or not, functioning less as vision correction than as a small buffer between herself and being fully seen. Both read as the same instinct wearing different fabric: cover enough to stay inside yourself while still choosing to be looked at. They close, unresolved on purpose, with a shared assignment — go watch Bella Freud’s Fashion Neurosis if you haven’t — and a question for the audience: what are you wearing for your Venus? KP answers first, on air: a thrifted white t-shirt, secondhand lapis lazuli earrings, and a ring bought at the Taj Mahal now doing the job her wedding ring used to do. Scorpio Venus, unmistakably. What we get into: * Venus as subject matter — how a placement points to a material, a texture, a subject you keep returning to, not just a color * Rising, moon, and Venus mapped against yin and yang, and what it means when all three land in the same register * The gap between the aspirational self (the dress that looks right online) and the felt self (the one that has to actually wear it) * Protective parts versus self-expression — how the same “weird” outfit can be armor or announcement, and how to tell the difference * Style as identity history: Chelsea’s clown-phase jumpsuits, KP’s reading glasses as a buffer against being fully seen * Bella Freud’s [https://fashionneurosis.com/]Fashion Neurosis [https://fashionneurosis.com/], [https://fashionneurosis.com/]and an open invitation to the audience: what are you wearing for your Venus? Parts & Charts is co-hosted by KP Kaszubowski, Hellenistic astrologer and Chelsea Owens, licensed IFS therapist. Work with us / stay close: Subscribe to Parts & Charts on Substack — episodes and in-person workshops land there first. → partsandcharts.substack.com Meet your Moon. KP’s guided audio course for meeting the Moon as an inner figure, on your own time. ($42) → https://kpkaszu.gumroad.com/l/meetyourmoon [https://kpkaszu.gumroad.com/l/meetyourmoon] Work with Chelsea. Licensed therapist, Leo moon, first house everything, art supplies on every surface. → www.chelseaowenstherapy.com [http://www.chelseaowenstherapy.com/] Work with KP. Astrology readings (written, voice note, or live; in person if you’re in Wisconsin), Astro Parts sessions, and Book Doula — a monthly retainer for people serious about making the book real, three clients at a time, waitlist when full. → Book Doula Waitlist: forms.gle/3LwpmAinnBN2Q4aY8 → Schedule a 1:1 session: https://app.acuityscheduling.com/schedule.php?owner=22372975 [https://app.acuityscheduling.com/schedule.php?owner=22372975] 🌟 Credits Music “Vape Juice Dave’s Bistro” composed by Scott Cary (Wild Western Avenue) for the feature film RINGOLEVIO (2020) directed by KP Kaszubowski — performed by Scott Cary, Max Wikoff, Else Albeck Gasparka, and Sarah Luther. Thanks for reading Parts & Charts! This post is public so feel free to share it. Get full access to Parts & Charts at partsandcharts.substack.com/subscribe [https://partsandcharts.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4]

34: The Bad Therapist — Felicia Keller Boyle on Parts, Rules, and Running a Business

Be sure to subscribe here on Substack and follow — available on Apple Podcasts [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/parts-charts-the-ifs-and-astrology-podcast/id1819784738], Spotify [https://open.spotify.com/show/2iR7QcdimkXeGQ0HPTl14M], and wherever you get your podcasts. About Our Guest Felicia Keller Boyle is an LMFT, business coach for private pay therapists, and host of her own podcast, The Bad Therapist Show. Before successfully growing her own six figure practice and launching her multi-six figure coaching business, Felicia spent years working in community mental health and agencies where she experienced the immense pressure therapists feel to put everyone first. After much soul-searching, she decided to see if it was possible to do great work and be paid well. Spoiler: It is. For the past seven years she's been helping ambitious therapists do the same and leave good therapist conditioning behind. Felicia calls her podcast The Bad Therapist Show, and she means it as a badge, not a confession. She’s still licensed. Still renewing. Still a good clinician. But somewhere around 2021 she split off from the room where you’re not supposed to coach, not supposed to tell anyone what to do, not supposed to want what you want out loud — and built a business teaching other therapists to do the same. This week she joins KP and Chelsea to talk about what happens when the part of you trained to disappear into your client’s process has to go build a business in public instead. You are listening to Parts & Charts: The IFS and Astrology Podcast. Be sure to subscribe here on Substack and follow — available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and wherever you get your podcasts. Parts & Charts is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. Therapists are trained to disappear. Whatever they think, whatever they want, whatever they’d say if it were their session — it stays out of the room, redirected back to the client, again and again, until redirecting becomes a reflex that doesn’t turn off at five o’clock. Felicia names this directly: she loves rules, she’s a rule-follower by nature, and the rule she took most seriously in clinical practice was that therapy is process-led, not opinion-led. You don’t tell people what to do. But there was a part of her that wanted to teach, wanted to lead, wanted to stand in front of a group and just say the thing — and therapy had no room for that part. Coaching did. Liberated Business, her program for therapists building and scaling private practice, is what happens when that part finally gets a job description. This is parts activation in its most literal form, business-flavored: not exiles and protectors in clinical language, since Felicia isn’t IFS-trained even though she’s currently a client in it herself, but the same architecture underneath. A part that follows rules so well it built an entire professional identity on self-erasure. Another part that’s been waiting since childhood — the puppeteer behind the church curtain, the kid leading a group that never asked for a leader — for permission to be looked at. The business isn’t just a business. It’s the place where the part that performs finally gets to stop apologizing for wanting an audience. KP pulls the chart and finds exactly this tension built into the architecture: Felicia’s sun and chart ruler both sitting in the most private house there is, while Jupiter — expansive, lucky, loud — sits in the most public one, in Pisces. A person whose core identity is structurally guarded, who has nonetheless been performing since she was small. And then Mars in Capricorn in the eighth house, the house of real intimacy and shared resources, which reframes the whole conversation: Felicia isn’t bad at vulnerability, she’s built vulnerability into a craft. Professional vulnerability. Vulnerability with a fee attached and a clear beginning and end, brick by Capricorn brick. That’s not a workaround. That’s the actual shape of the gift — the eighth house doing what the eighth house does, slowly, on purpose, for other people’s benefit before her own. The “bad therapist” framing earns its keep here, too, because it isn’t really about being bad at therapy — Felicia is emphatic that she’s good at her job, good enough that she’s almost offended when someone implies otherwise. It’s about being a good rule-breaker, which is its own discipline. She talks about skipping high school constantly her senior year — not to do anything illicit, but to go study for harder classes than the ones she was assigned to attend. Same instinct, different decade: know the rule, understand why it exists, and break it anyway when you’ve got a clearer reason than the rule does. That’s the same engine that let her leave a stable clinical identity to build something the rulebook didn’t have a category for yet. Running underneath all of it is the 2023–2025 stretch — grief after her brother’s death, a business slump that lined up almost exactly with an astrological progression her astrologer later named and dated, and two and a half years of fighting weather that was telling her to rest. Felicia didn’t rest. She launched a podcast and invested in SEO instead, the opposite of what her astrologer would have advised in real time. It worked out — her business calls this period the rocket ship now — but the episode doesn’t let that read as proof the fight was right. It’s proof that sometimes the bruising and the outcome arrive together, and the chart’s job isn’t to spare you one or the other. It’s to eventually explain both. What we get into: What happens to the part of a therapist trained to disappear when she has to build a business in public “Bad therapist” as identity, not confession — rule-following, rule-breaking, and the difference between the two Sun and chart ruler buried in the most private house, next to a Jupiter that wants an audience Mars in Capricorn in the eighth house: vulnerability as a craft, not a deficit Why therapists specifically struggle with visibility and marketing, and what coaching gave Felicia that clinical work couldn’t The 2023–2025 progression: grief, business malaise, an astrologer’s blunt forecast, and the two and a half years spent fighting it anyway “Choose your hard” — Felicia’s operating philosophy for entrepreneurship, no spiritual bypass attached Find Felicia: The Bad Therapist Show — abadtherapist.coach — Liberated Business, one-on-one coaching, and the Magic Sheet (her private-practice fee calculator) Links below> Website [https://thebadtherapist.coach/?utm_source=partsandcharts&utm_medium=podcast&utm_term=&utm_content=&utm_campaign=website] Magic Sheets Private Practice Fee Calculator [https://thebadtherapist.ck.page/revenue-stimulator?utm_source=partsandcharts&utm_medium=podcast&utm_term=&utm_content=&utm_campaign=magicsheetsoptin]Liberated Business [https://thebadtherapist.coach/liberatedbusiness?utm_source=partsandcharts&utm_medium=podcast&utm_term=&utm_content=&utm_campaign=liberatedbusiness] The Bad Therapist Show [https://www.thebadtherapist.coach/thebadtherapistshow?utm_source=partsandcharts&utm_medium=podcast&utm_term=&utm_content=&utm_campaign=thebadtherapistshow] Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/the_bad_therapist] Parts & Charts is co-hosted by KP Kaszubowski, Hellenistic astrologer and APM educator, and Chelsea Owens, licensed IFS therapist. Work with us / stay close: Subscribe to Parts & Charts on Substack — episodes and in-person workshops land there first. → partsandcharts.substack.com Meet your Moon. KP’s guided audio course for meeting the Moon as an inner figure, on your own time. ($42) → https://kpkaszu.gumroad.com/l/meetyourmoon [https://kpkaszu.gumroad.com/l/meetyourmoon] Work with Chelsea. Licensed therapist, Leo moon, first house everything, art supplies on every surface. → www.chelseaowenstherapy.com [http://www.chelseaowenstherapy.com] Work with KP. Astrology readings (written, voice note, or live; in person if you’re in Wisconsin), Astro Parts sessions, and Book Doula — a monthly retainer for people serious about making the book real, three clients at a time, waitlist when full. → Book Doula Waitlist: forms.gle/3LwpmAinnBN2Q4aY8 → Schedule a 1:1 session: https://app.acuityscheduling.com/schedule.php?owner=22372975 [https://app.acuityscheduling.com/schedule.php?owner=22372975] 🌟 Credits Music “Vape Juice Dave’s Bistro” composed by Scott Cary (Wild Western Avenue) for the feature film RINGOLEVIO (2020) directed by KP Kaszubowski — performed by Scott Cary, Max Wikoff, Else Albeck Gasparka, and Sarah Luther. Thanks for reading Parts & Charts! This post is public so feel free to share it. Get full access to Parts & Charts at partsandcharts.substack.com/subscribe [https://partsandcharts.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4]

33: With Exiles, You Can't Skip to the End

Every other part in your system has a job — protectors protect, managers manage, firefighters put out the fire. Exiles are the ones with no job at all. They just hold the feeling. This week KP asks Chelsea, the resident IFS therapist, to teach the foundations of exiles: who they are, why your protectors guard them so fiercely, and why grief — the step most of us skip — is how you actually reach them. You are listening to Parts & Charts: The IFS and Astrology Podcast. Be sure to subscribe here on Substack and follow — available on Apple Podcasts [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/parts-charts-the-ifs-and-astrology-podcast/id1819784738], Spotify [https://open.spotify.com/show/2iR7QcdimkXeGQ0HPTl14M], and wherever you get your podcasts. Parts & Charts is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. There’s a part of you balled up in the corner of the room with a blanket over its head. It’s young. It’s holding something heavy — shame, a rejection, an attachment that ruptured or never formed — and it has been holding it for a long time. In IFS, that’s an exile, and the rest of your system has organized itself around keeping you from ever feeling what it feels. Chelsea Owens [https://substack.com/profile/9362340-chelsea-owens], a licensed therapist trained in the model, walks KP Kaszubowski [https://substack.com/profile/19649812-kp-kaszubowski] through the foundations: how exiles differ from the protectors and firefighters running the show, why you can’t march straight up to a tender part (picture a stranger knocking and asking to speak to your four-year-old — of course the gatekeepers say no), and what the textbook arc actually looks like, from getting the protectors’ permission, to witnessing, to grief, to unburdening a belief like I’m unlovable and letting the part take on something new. The throughline is grief — the piece Chelsea says we’re never really taught to do, the one protectors are most afraid of, the one that, when you stay with it instead of running, turns out to feel less like drowning and more like room being made. KP keeps catching the resonance with creative process: you can’t rush a revision to its tender center any more than you can rush a part to its. (She also clocks, mid-episode, that the novel she thought was about the medieval period is actually about her grandmother. The work knows before you do.) And then the chart. KP’s distinction to sit with: a birth chart is a snapshot, but the moving sky — transits — is where this kind of process actually shows itself, which is why “you have an exile doing X” is exactly the wrong way to read a placement. Where to begin instead: Chiron for the named wound, and the Moon, the tender spot every one of us shares. A note on staying in our lanes: Chelsea teaches the IFS model here; KP translates it toward the chart. What we get into: * What an exile is, and why it’s the one part with no job — it only holds the feeling * Protectors as gatekeepers, and why reaching a tender part is slow on purpose * The energetic “tell” that you’ve met an exile rather than a protector * The arc from permission to witnessing to unburdening — and the new qualities a part can take on afterward * Why grief is the step we skip, what our protectors fear about it, and why staying with it makes more room than it takes * Where exiles come from: the classroom humiliation, the un-sent birthday invitation, the friend who stopped without a reason * Reading this in the chart without flattening anyone: Chiron, the Moon, and transits as the place process lives Work with us / stay close: * Sun & Moon Workshop — in person, San Francisco. Solstice, June 21, at Birdhouse Gallery on Judah St. in the Sunset. Three hours of astro grounding, meditation, and art making — we meet the Sun and the Moon as inner figures and build something in response to them. Priced to cover the venue and supplies so the room can be full. → sign up [https://www.eventbrite.com/e/arts-parts-charts-the-sun-and-the-moon-creative-workshop-tickets-1990029492783?utm_experiment=test_share_listing&aff=ebdsshios] * Subscribe to Parts & Charts on Substack — episodes, in-person workshops, and the part-two we keep threatening (where the wounds actually live in the chart) land there first. → partsandcharts.substack.com [http://partsandcharts.substack.com] * We’re curious. We want to map exiles and wounding onto real placements — Chiron, the Moon, and beyond. Tell us in the comments where you find this energy in yourself, and what house it lives in. → * Chelsea’s Oracle deck, Outer Realms for Inner Archives — a collage deck shaped by exactly this work, made the way she makes images of her own parts. Pre-orders coming; this email sign-up form gets you deck news only, nothing else. → subscribe here [https://chelsea-owens.kit.com/19ebf9c33a] * Meet your Moon. If the Moon is the tender spot for everyone, this is the guided audio course for meeting yours as an inner figure — KP’s active-imagination approach, on your own time. ($42) → https://kpkaszu.gumroad.com/l/meetyourmoon [https://kpkaszu.gumroad.com/l/meetyourmoon] * Work with Chelsea. If you’re in California and you’ve been looking for a therapist who will actually go there with you — the deep stuff, the weird stuff, the stuff you’ve never quite found the words for — Chelsea Owens is your person. Licensed therapist, Leo moon, first house everything, art supplies on every surface. She brings clinical rigor and genuine delight to the work in equal measure, which turns out to be exactly what the hard stuff needs. 👉 www.chelseaowenstherapy.com [http://www.chelseaowenstherapy.com/] * Work with KP. Astrology readings (written, voice note, or live; in person if you’re in Wisconsin), Astro Parts sessions, and Book Doula — a monthly retainer for people serious about making the book real, three clients at a time, waitlist when full. → Book Doula Waitlist: forms.gle/3LwpmAinnBN2Q4aY8 [http://forms.gle/3LwpmAinnBN2Q4aY8] Schedule a 1:1 session → https://app.acuityscheduling.com/schedule.php?owner=22372975 [https://app.acuityscheduling.com/schedule.php?owner=22372975] 🌟 Credits Music “Vape Juice Dave’s Bistro” composed by Scott Cary (Wild Western Avenue) for the feature film RINGOLEVIO (2020) directed by KP Kaszubowski — performed by Scott Cary, Max Wikoff, Else Albeck Gasparka, and Sarah Luther. Collage cover art by Chelsea Owens. Get full access to Parts & Charts at partsandcharts.substack.com/subscribe [https://partsandcharts.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4]

32: Friends with Benefics

On June 9, Venus caught up to Jupiter at 25° Cancer — the last time the two "benefics" will meet like this for about twelve years. Chelsea and KP sit with what happens when two planets who both say yes end up in the same room, why a no isn't always a wall, and how to actually receive a soft sky instead of trying to optimize it. What is a benefic??? The benefics are the two planets the old astrologers called the ones who say yes — Venus and Jupiter. This week they conjoined at 25° Cancer, where Jupiter is exalted and Venus is more than comfortable. The Astrology Podcast’s Chris Brennan and Leisa Schaim called this one an extended warm hug, and given the spring we’ve had and the July that’s coming, we’ll take it. But a yes isn’t automatically a gift. Two yeses together is how you end up overspending, overcommitting, saying let’s figure it out until you’re in trouble. And the malefics — Mars, Saturn, the ones who say no — aren’t villains. A no is a boundary. A no is discernment. This episode is about getting friendly with both. What we get into: * Benefic as “one who says yes,” malefic as “one who says no” — and why neither is good or bad on its own * Venus applying to Jupiter, and how we get to take Venus’s role as we move into his energy * Venus as a baseline state (Chelsea) vs. Venus as something you choose (KP, Venus in Scorpio) * Jupiter’s verb: to cohere * Charts with no “hard” aspects, difficulty levels, and why an easy chart isn’t an easy life * A seven-year piece of homework about Saturn’s eventual move into Cancer And the actual assignment, which is barely an assignment: don’t accelerate anything. Don’t launch on the warm-hug day because an astrologer told you to. Have the chocolate croissant and don’t do your homework while you eat it. Call the person. You are in a body for a finite number of moments and you only get to touch someone’s skin so many times — this is a week to remember that, before July asks something harder of all of us. Parts & Charts is co-hosted by KP Kaszubowski, Hellenistic astrologer and APM educator, and Chelsea Owens, licensed IFS therapist. Work with us / stay close: * Sun & Moon Workshop — in person, San Francisco. Solstice, June 21, at Birdhouse Gallery on Judah St. in the Sunset. Three hours of astro grounding, meditation, and art making — we meet the Sun and the Moon as inner figures and build something in response to them. Priced to cover the venue and supplies so the room can be full. → sign up [https://www.eventbrite.com/e/arts-parts-charts-the-sun-and-the-moon-creative-workshop-tickets-1990029492783?utm_experiment=test_share_listing&aff=ebdsshios] * How was your June 9? Leave a comment on the episode post and tell us what showed up the afternoon of the conjunction. We want the real reports. → * Chelsea’s Oracle deck, Outer Realms for Inner Archives — a collage deck, pre-orders coming. Drop your name on the interest form for deck news only (no spam, we promise). → Subscribe here [https://chelsea-owens.kit.com/19ebf9c33a] Work with Chelsea If you’re in California and you’ve been looking for a therapist who will actually go there with you — the deep stuff, the weird stuff, the stuff you’ve never quite found the words for — Chelsea Owens is your person. Licensed therapist, Leo moon, first house everything, art supplies on every surface. She brings clinical rigor and genuine delight to the work in equal measure, which turns out to be exactly what the hard stuff needs. 👉 www.chelseaowenstherapy.com [http://www.chelseaowenstherapy.com/] Work with KP * If this episode sparked something — a placement you want to understand, a pattern you keep circling, a chart you’re ready to sit with — KP offers 75-minute astrology readings on a sliding scale. * KP is also now open to take on a few clients looking for a book doula. If you have a project in the works and you need support getting your book out in the world send her a message for more info. * Book an Astro Parts Work session: acuity link [https://app.acuityscheduling.com/schedule.php?owner=22372975&appointmentType=89789886] Book Doula waitlist: forms.gle/3LwpmAinnBN2Q4aY8 [https://forms.gle/3LwpmAinnBN2Q4aY8] Astrology for Makers ↗ kpkaszubowski.substack.com [https://kpkaszubowski.substack.com/] 👉 https://app.acuityscheduling.com/schedule.php?owner=22372975 [https://app.acuityscheduling.com/schedule.php?owner=22372975] Go deeper into making contact with your personal moon as a part of you with the short audio course Meet Your Moon made by KP Kaszubowski [https://open.substack.com/users/19649812-kp-kaszubowski?utm_source=mentions] — https://kpkaszu.gumroad.com/l/meetyourmoon [https://kpkaszu.gumroad.com/l/meetyourmoon] Thanks for reading Parts & Charts! This post is public so feel free to share it. 🌟 Credits Music “Vape Juice Dave’s Bistro” composed by Scott Cary (Wild Western Avenue) for the feature film RINGOLEVIO (2020) directed by KP Kaszubowski — performed by Scott Cary, Max Wikoff, Else Albeck Gasparka, and Sarah Luther. Collage cover art by Chelsea Owens. Get full access to Parts & Charts at partsandcharts.substack.com/subscribe [https://partsandcharts.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4]

31: The Secret Love Language with the Lilith Therapist Lisa Broggi

Be sure to subscribe here on Substack and follow — available on Apple Podcasts [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/parts-charts-the-ifs-and-astrology-podcast/id1819784738], Spotify [https://open.spotify.com/show/2iR7QcdimkXeGQ0HPTl14M], and wherever you get your podcasts. What is the 6th, secret, Love Language, you ask? Well, listen to our conversation with long-time guest of the pod The Lilith Therapist—Lisa Broggi, therapist, astrologer, 12th House guide in which we go deep with the moon as a secret love language! About Our Guest Lisa Broggi [https://www.pinkmoontherapy.com/] — therapist, astrologer, and The Lilith Therapist — is back on Parts & Charts, and we went deep on the moon. Not just the sign, but the whole picture: house placement, aspects, conditions, and what it actually means to honor what your moon needs in relationships, in self-care, and in the recurring patterns you might not even recognize yet. Lisa has a clinical eye for the moon as a tool in therapeutic work — she calls it a “therapy gold mine” — and this conversation showed exactly why. We talked about how the moon reveals your core emotional needs, what happens when those needs go unmet, and how the protective patterns that formed early in life show up in your closest relationships. KP brought the Hellenistic framework (dignities, rulerships, why Scorpio moon gets a bad rap it doesn’t fully deserve) and Chelsea brought the relational and somatic grounding. Lisa brought everything she knows about actually working with this in a room with clients. We also did a rapid-fire pass through all twelve moon signs — what each one needs, how it moves, and where it can tip into shadow. It was a lot. In the best way. Topics Covered * The moon as a map of core emotional needs — and why it might matter more than Venus in relationships * House placement as the arena where your moon needs to be fed * Moon sign synastry: what compatibility actually looks like, and why tension isn’t disqualifying * The shadow side of every moon — not as a verdict, but as a starting point for the work * Saturn, Pluto, and Jupiter aspecting the moon: what gets restricted, intensified, or amplified * A full pass through all twelve moon signs: needs, self-care, and what gets in the way * How your moon’s ruling planet points toward what kind of movement, creativity, or expression supports your emotional health Rapid-Fire Moon Sign Notes Aries — needs movement and autonomy; one step at a time; Mars-ruled instinct over strategy Taurus — sensory comfort, downtime, stability; exalted moon; shadow is rigidity, not rest Gemini — Mercury-ruled; needs someone (or something) to bounce off of; language as emotional processing Cancer — narrative and story as emotional access; the body as a way to close the loop; deeply feeling, needs to feel safe doing so Leo — expression, appreciation, being seen; generosity as self-care; the sun as literal nourishment Virgo — Mercury-ruled in an earth body; grounding the mind in highly personal, non-prescribable ways Libra — relational processing; justice and fairness as emotional stakes; watch for conflict avoidance as the default Scorpio — trust is the core need, full stop; emotional safety before depth is possible; not a bad placement — a rigorous one Sagittarius — expansiveness, adventure, growth; fire sign that moves at its own tempo; needs room Capricorn — perspective, projects, purposeful solitude; slower movement (yoga, weightlifting, rowing); loves something to build Aquarius — lone wolf and community animal at once; individuality within belonging; genuinely cares, reads as aloof Pisces — sensitivity that requires real tending; energy hygiene, healthy escapisms; body as barometer Homework from Lisa Think of a past relationship that didn’t work — a hard one. If you can, find their chart. Look at their moon sign. See what you can learn about what needs were in the room that never got acknowledged. You don’t have to be kind to the relationship to be honest about what it was teaching you. About Lisa Broggi, The Lilith Therapist Lisa is a licensed therapist, astrologer, and the creator of the Feed Your Moon workshop. She works with clients through a lens that integrates astrology and depth psychology — with a particular focus on the moon as a gateway to understanding your emotional world, your relational patterns, and your oldest coping mechanisms. She takes coaching and therapy clients, offers astrology readings, and now teaches workshops. 🌕 Feed Your Moon Workshop — June 14th Lisa’s upcoming live webinar goes deep on all things moon: core needs, emotional processing styles, self-care by placement, and the shadow material that shows up especially in relationships. A recording will be available for those who can’t attend live. 👉 https://theliliththerapist.podia.com/feed-your-moon [https://theliliththerapist.podia.com/feed-your-moon] Mentioned in This Episode * Marshall Rosenberg, Nonviolent Communication (the “beautiful need” framework) * Married at First Sight (Chelsea’s cultural reference for moon-based matchmaking) * Arts & Parts & Charts in-person workshop [https://tinyurl.com/partsandcharts], San Francisco — June 21st, the beginning of Cancer season, with Cancer sun Chelsea Owens [https://substack.com/profile/9362340-chelsea-owens] and Cancer moon KP Kaszubowski [https://substack.com/profile/19649812-kp-kaszubowski] | Register here: https://tinyurl.com/partsandcharts [https://tinyurl.com/partsandcharts] Parts & Charts is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. Parts & Charts is co-hosted by KP Kaszubowski, Hellenistic astrologer and APM educator, and Chelsea Owens, licensed IFS therapist. Work with Chelsea If you’re in California and you’ve been looking for a therapist who will actually go there with you — the deep stuff, the weird stuff, the stuff you’ve never quite found the words for — Chelsea Owens is your person. Licensed therapist, Leo moon, first house everything, art supplies on every surface. She brings clinical rigor and genuine delight to the work in equal measure, which turns out to be exactly what the hard stuff needs. 👉 www.chelseaowenstherapy.com [http://www.chelseaowenstherapy.com] Work with KP If this episode sparked something — a placement you want to understand, a pattern you keep circling, a chart you’re ready to sit with — KP offers 75-minute astrology readings on a sliding scale. 👉 https://app.acuityscheduling.com/schedule.php?owner=22372975 [https://app.acuityscheduling.com/schedule.php?owner=22372975] Go deeper into making contact with your personal moon as a part of you with the short audio course Meet Your Moon made by KP Kaszubowski [https://open.substack.com/users/19649812-kp-kaszubowski?utm_source=mentions] — https://kpkaszu.gumroad.com/l/meetyourmoon [https://kpkaszu.gumroad.com/l/meetyourmoon] Get full access to Parts & Charts at partsandcharts.substack.com/subscribe [https://partsandcharts.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4]