Puppies, Pandemics, and Public Health

Dogs in Research: Taxpayer Funded Suffering and the Push for Human Relevant Science | Ep16

54 min · 30. mar. 2026
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What if the animal research you thought was saving lives was actually driven more by money and outdated methods than real scientific progress? In this powerful  episode of Puppies, Pandemics, and Public Health, host Dr. Johnny Lieberman sits down with Jeremy Beckham, animal rights activist and third year law student at Lewis & Clark Law School. With over 20 years of advocacy experience including work with PETA, the Beagle Freedom Project, and the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine Jeremy reveals how the multi-billion-dollar animal research industry is disconnected from actual patient outcomes. From the shocking use of beagles in painful toxicity tests to the story of chimpanzees that led to a major policy shift, Jeremy explains why 92% of drugs that pass animal tests still fail in humans, how institutions prioritize grants and publications over results, and why non animal methods are often superior. He also shares hard-won victories, including campaigns that closed dog labs and shifted universities toward better science. Whether you’re a dog lover, a physician, a scientist, or simply someone who wants medical research that actually works, this episode is a must listen wake up call about where your tax dollars are going and how we can demand better for both animals and human health. Top 3 Takeaways: * Animal Research Is Driven by Money, Not Results Research universities and breeding companies profit from massive federal grants and animal sales, but the system is untethered from delivering new therapies or cures for patients. Careers are built on publications, not real world outcomes. * Most Drugs That Work in Animals Fail in Humans A shocking 92% of drugs deemed safe and effective in animal tests fail in human clinical trials. Meta analyses and real world examples like tobacco industry studies on beagles and monkeys show that animal data often misleads and delays progress. * Public Pressure and Sunlight Work Campaigns exposing labs (including undercover footage from facilities like Ridglan Farms) and policy wins like ending chimpanzee research and the FDA Modernization Act show that scrutiny, advocacy, and shifting funding toward human relevant methods can create real change. About the Guest:  Jeremy Beckham Jeremy Beckham is a third year law student at Lewis & Clark Law School in Portland, Oregon, and a dedicated animal rights activist with more than 20 years of experience. He has worked in various capacities for PETA’s laboratory investigations department, the Beagle Freedom Project (as Research Specialist), and the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine. Jeremy has managed major campaigns against dog labs (including at Texas A&M and the University of Utah), helped pass state legislation requiring labs to offer dogs for adoption instead of euthanasia, and participated in numerous Freedom of Information Act efforts to expose lab practices. He is passionate about using the law to advocate for better science and stronger protections for animals. After graduating, Jeremy plans to continue litigating on behalf of animal protection organizations and activists. LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/jsbeckham [https://www.linkedin.com/in/jsbeckham/] About the Show: Puppies, Pandemics, and Public Health explores the intersection of animal welfare, public policy, and human health. Hosted by Dr. Johnny Lieberman, each episode invites changemakers, legal experts, and health advocates to shed light on what really impacts our communities and what we can do about it. About the Host: Dr. Johnny Lieberman is a physician, public health advocate, and lifelong animal lover with a passion for connecting the dots between animal welfare, human behavior, and the systems that shape our lives. With a background in both medicine and public health policy, Johnny brings a unique lens to conversations about how our treatment of animals impacts human health, the environment, and social justice. In Puppies, Pandemics, and Public Health, Johnny brings warmth, curiosity, and a dash of wit to tough conversations that matter. From exposing the realities of factory farming to uncovering the links between zoonotic diseases and our food systems, his goal is to empower listeners to be informed, compassionate, and engaged citizens while still keeping it real (and sometimes bringing in puppies). Whether he's discussing legislative loopholes or snuggling his rescue dog between recordings, Dr. Lieberman believes that creating a healthier world starts with how we treat its most vulnerable beings. Email: John@johnliebermanmd.com [John@johnliebermanmd.com]

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