Puppies, Pandemics, and Public Health

Behind the Label: How Industries Shape What We Believe About Animals | Ep21

40 min · 10. juni 2026
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In this episode of Puppies, Pandemics, and Public Health, Dr. Johnny Lieberman talks with Ashley Frohnert, Director of Social Media at PETA, about humane-washing, consumer psychology, and the hidden realities behind products marketed as ethical, humane, or compassionate. From her childhood in 4-H to leading one of the world’s most influential animal advocacy social media teams, Ashley shares how questioning deeply held beliefs can lead to unexpected discoveries about animals, industry, and ourselves.

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