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Wounded by the Body of Christ

22 min · 17. juli 2026
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It’s no secret that people are leaving the church in droves. While it’s easy for institutions to write them off or point fingers, hosts Todd and Sean want to lean into a much harder, more painful truth: a lot of people aren’t leaving because they lost their faith; they’re leaving because they got hurt. In this episode, Todd and Sean tackle the heavy tension of loving a broken church while validating the deep scars it leaves behind. As radical Lutherans, they dive into the messy reality that the church is simul iustus et peccator—simultaneously saint and sinner. While they ultimately disagree with walking away from the community of faith, they refuse to minimize the spiritual malpractice and institutional trauma that drives people out the door. Grab a drink and join the conversation as they discuss: * The difference between "church hurt" and theological disagreement. * How the law is often weaponized where gospel should be proclaimed. * Why understanding someone's pain matters more than winning an argument about church attendance. * What it looks like to hold onto Christ when His body on earth has let you down. Whether you're struggling to stay in the pews, you've already walked away, or you're trying to figure out how to love someone who has, this episode is a reminder that Christ’s grace is bigger than our worst institutional failures.

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Wounded by the Body of Christ

It’s no secret that people are leaving the church in droves. While it’s easy for institutions to write them off or point fingers, hosts Todd and Sean want to lean into a much harder, more painful truth: a lot of people aren’t leaving because they lost their faith; they’re leaving because they got hurt. In this episode, Todd and Sean tackle the heavy tension of loving a broken church while validating the deep scars it leaves behind. As radical Lutherans, they dive into the messy reality that the church is simul iustus et peccator—simultaneously saint and sinner. While they ultimately disagree with walking away from the community of faith, they refuse to minimize the spiritual malpractice and institutional trauma that drives people out the door. Grab a drink and join the conversation as they discuss: * The difference between "church hurt" and theological disagreement. * How the law is often weaponized where gospel should be proclaimed. * Why understanding someone's pain matters more than winning an argument about church attendance. * What it looks like to hold onto Christ when His body on earth has let you down. Whether you're struggling to stay in the pews, you've already walked away, or you're trying to figure out how to love someone who has, this episode is a reminder that Christ’s grace is bigger than our worst institutional failures.

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