Reparative Histories of Art and Architecture
Summary In our eighth episode, dr. heather ahtone joins us to discuss Indigenous curatorial praxis and the long history of the museum as a colonial project. Dr. ahtone traces the path from sixteenth-century cabinets of curiosity through the natural history museum's consolidation of Native American cultural material to the more recent emergence of tribal-led institutions. The conversation centers on the Reunions initiative developed alongside the inaugural WINIKO exhibition, which reconnected descendant families with cultural materials held by the Smithsonian's National Museum of the American Indian. Dr. ahtone also reflects on locality, mentorship, and the decisions that have anchored her career in service to community rather than in the conventions of professional advancement. Guests dr. heather ahtone [https://act.mit.edu/about/people/heather-ahtone/], Director of Curatorial Affairs, First Americans Museum (Oklahoma City). A citizen of the Chickasaw Nation, descended from strong Choctaw women, Dr. ahtone holds undergraduate degrees in Creative Writing and Printmaking and completed a doctoral degree in Interdisciplinary Studies with expertise in Art History, Anthropology, and Native American Studies. She has worked in the Native arts community since 1993, holding positions at the Institute of American Indian Arts Museum (now MoCNA), the Southwestern Association of Indian Arts, Ralph Appelbaum Associates, and the University of Oklahoma, where she began teaching in 2007. Angelina Medina [https://www.haa.pitt.edu/people/angelina-medina] is a Ph.D. Student in the Department of History of Art & Architecture, specializing in contemporary U.S. diasporic and Latinx art, with a focus on gender and representation. Host and Production Credits Co-Hosts: Sarah M. Estrela, Amelia Hansen Producer: Amelia Hansen Co-Editors: Amelia Hansen; Sarah M. Estrela Music: Jacob Napier Research and Show Notes: Sarah M. Estrela Key Topics Discussed 00:02:51 – Dr. ahtone traces her accidental path to curatorial work from Pre-Med, to Creative Writing at the Institute of American Indian Arts [https://www.iaia.edu/] to Printmaking, before recognizing art history as a vehicle for community service in Oklahoma. 00:10:00 – Dr. ahtone pays tribute to her mentors Dr. Gregory Cajete, Barbara Hobson, and Dan Swan, who guided her thinking on the risks and possibilities of bringing indigenous knowledge into the Academy, as well as the late Dr. Mary Jo Watson, who founded the Native art history program at the University of Oklahoma. 00:12:25 – Dr. ahtone reflects on the professional pressures of mobility and the decision framework (centered on family, community service, and place) that has anchored her career at the First Americans Museum [https://famok.org/]. 00:22:10 – Dr. ahtone describes her grounding practice as rooted in indigenous systems of knowledge, including a belief that ancestors are present and walk alongside the living. 00:32:49 – Dr. ahtone traces the museum as a colonial project: from the cabinets of curiosity assembled by European monarchies to the natural history museum's consolidation of Native American cultural materials, grounding that history in dominion theology and the fourteenth-century capitalization of land as its foundational logics. 00:36:07 – Dr. ahtone discusses the expedition illustrations of John White engraved and published by Theodor de Bry (1590) as a formative moment in the visual dehumanization of indigenous peoples, producing images that provided rhetorical justification for colonial domination and enslavement. 00:40:37 – Dr. ahtone explains FAM's commitment to an all-Native curatorial team, arguing that indigenous knowledge and community relationships enable the asking of questions and forms of accountability that a non-Native team could not bring to the work. 00:41:10 – Dr. ahtone discusses the Reunions initiative, developed alongside the inaugural WINIKO [https://famok.org/winiko/] exhibition, which reconnected descendant families with cultural materials held in the Smithsonian's NMAI [https://americanindian.si.edu/] collection. 00:43:30 – Dr. ahtone argues that reconnecting extracted cultural materials with their communities of origin is the museum's responsibility rather than the Native community's burden, and that any labeled object offers a starting point on a map for finding its community. Reading List Bibliographic entries below follow the notes-bibliography formatting conventions of the 18th edition of The Chicago Manual of Style, ordered alphabetically by author surname. Works Cited in Conversation ahtone, heather, and James Pepper Henry, eds. WINIKO: Life of an Object, Selections from the Smithsonian's National Museum of the American Indian [https://store.famok.org/products/catalog-hardbound-winiko]. Oklahoma City: First Americans Museum, 2021. Harriot, Thomas. A Briefe and True Report of the New Found Land of Virginia [https://www.loc.gov/item/48032384/]. Frankfurt: Theodor de Bry, 1590. Suggested Further Reading Cajete, Gregory. Native Science: Natural Laws of Interdependence. [https://outdoorlearning.com/product/native-science/] Santa Fe: Clear Light Publishers, 2000. Lonetree, Amy. Decolonizing Museums: Representing Native America in National and Tribal Museums. [https://uncpress.org/9780807837153/decolonizing-museums/] Chapel Hill: University of North Carolina Press, 2012. Swan, Daniel C. Peyote Religious Art: Symbols of Faith and Belief. Jackson: University Press of Mississippi, 1999. Sze, Arthur. The Willow Wind: Poems and Translations from the Chinese. Rev. ed. Guadalupita, NM: Tooth of Time Books, 1981 [1972]. Watson, Mary Jo, and heather ahtone. Art from Indian Territory: The State of Being American Indian. Oklahoma City: American Indian Cultural Center & Museum, 2007. Acknowledgments This podcast is made possible through the generous support of the Andrew W. Mellon Foundation [https://www.mellon.org/], whose commitment to the humanities sustains the conditions under which scholarly conversations of this kind can be undertaken with care. We extend our deepest gratitude to the Mellon Foundation, to our guests for the generosity of their time and thinking, and to the institutional partners and communities whose collaboration anchors this work. Suggested Citation Estrela, Sarah M. and Amelia Hansen, co-hosts. "Indigenous Curatorial Praxis with dr. heather ahtone." Reparative Histories of Art and Architecture, episode 8, Recorded April 10, 2026, Released June 18, 2026. Transcript and Contact For inquiries, corrections, or accessibility requests, please contact reparative.haa@pitt.edu [reparative.haa@pitt.edu].
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