Annette Safstrom: Practical Systems to Avoid Burnout

Andrae Jones: Learn How Your Pastor Thinks

What does it look like to build a thriving kids ministry team — and lead the people above you just as well as the people beside you? Jeremy sits down with Andrae Jones, Kids Pastor at One Community Church in Plano, Texas, to talk community, culture, and what it takes to lead well over the long haul. Andrae shares how he helped launch DFW KidMin, a grassroots quarterly gathering for kids leaders across the Dallas-Fort Worth area. We talk about why giving ministry away raises your stock, what the Netflix Q2 report revealed about church engagement, and how getting kids involved in serving shapes their faith for life. Andrae also breaks down how to speak your senior pastor's language — and why you need a 60-second pitch, a 5-minute pitch, and a full pitch ready at all times. QUICK LINKS: KIDMIN U [https://simplekidsministry.com/certification] OneHope [https://onehope.net/] One Community Church [https://visitonecc.com/] Andrae Jones on Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/draejones/]

Justyn Smith: Spatial Storytelling in Kids Ministry

Justyn Smith has spent decades raising the bar for kids ministry — from building Disney-inspired environments at River Valley Church to coaching leaders and writing books that have shaped how the whole field thinks about volunteers, systems, and discipleship. In this conversation, Jeremy and Justyn cover a lot of ground — from what the Disney model actually teaches us about environments and family engagement, to the real ROI of investing in physical spaces (including a church that saw over 2,100 first-time kids in year one of their new building). They also dig into the staffing conversation: why churches are searching for unicorns they can't afford, why your next great kids pastor might already be sitting in your pews, and how flexible leadership structures could open doors to high-capacity leaders churches would otherwise never recruit. QUICK LINKS: Kidmin Magic [https://www.instagram.com/kidminmagic/] Justyn Smith's Books [https://www.amazon.com/stores/Justyn-Smith/author/B0CNZHGRVQ?ref=ap_rdr&shoppingPortalEnabled=true&ccs_id=d3f02ed0-feda-446c-ba02-7eb266a50b55] KIDMIN U [https://simplekidsministry.com/certification]

Annette Safstrom: Practical Systems to Avoid Burnout

What does it actually take to build a kids ministry that doesn't burn you out? Annette Safstrom — author of Sustainable Children's Ministry and consultant with Ministry Architects — knows firsthand what it feels like to hit the wall. In this conversation, she shares the turning point that brought her back into ministry, why the "workhorse syndrome" is silently crushing so many kids pastors, and the practical systems she put in place to build a ministry that actually works. In this episode: * Why Annette quit kids ministry — and what brought her back * The workhorse syndrome and how to break the cycle * How to build systems that create consistency (and protect your team) * Leading up: what your senior pastor actually needs to hear from you * Why kids ministry is harder than anyone tells you — and how to get the support you need QUICK LINKS: Annette Safstrom: annette.safstrom@ministryarchitects.com Ministry Architects [https://ministryarchitects.com/] Sustainable Children's Ministry Book [https://www.amazon.com/Sustainable-Childrens-Ministry-Last-Minute-Scrambling/dp/0830845224/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2OP5GA79ZMCDG&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.H54snQa1Iq4BN_gXPJJEyT4I6LHnVCuPB3Qzr2-yvg1YHXBN5-08yZl5pg3x15zi7uJsiE8FHKKbImwURlgRU8KndLSIDF__fEvitN6wJIjXgjD76KuFcfL7io4YXVr5iIv9S3LBPSsu48bGmTguRMF9-TCy-8Nk8LssucTevkkO1KTjCvCevDtRmDhZsE1FIJMOnIF1MuAS9OzUoFWxu1pt1UVxkeiISZ-Wn65ZcYQ.l0i6a02VAb37CIvBD8fhdZFWHaTxc2eIhKGfCLFlEG4&dib_tag=se&keywords=sustainable+children%27s+ministry&qid=1779770667&sprefix=sustainable+childre%2Caps%2C278&sr=8-1] KIDMIN U [https://simplekidsministry.com/certification]

Mal Corwin: Building a Spirit-filled Kids Ministry

What does it look like when kids actually encounter the presence of God? Mal Corwin, Kids Pastor at The Belonging Co, shares how they have cultivated a place where children lead in worship, pray for healing, and hear from God in real and tangible ways. Mal unpacks the philosophy behind the phrase "there's no junior Holy Spirit" — and what it actually looks like in practice. From teaching kids how to worship (not just sing songs) to creating space for prayer ministry, and big faith moments, this episode is packed with practical wisdom for any kids pastor who wants more of the Holy Spirit's presence in their ministry. Quick Links: KIDMIN U [https://simplekidsministry.com/certification] The Belonging Co [https://thebelonging.co/] malcorwin.com [https://malcorwin.com/] The Volunteer Buy-in Blueprint [https://malcorwin.com/store/p/real-blueprint]

David Rausch: The Story Behind GO! Curriculum

What does it look like when God calls you to something that terrifies you? David Rausch, founder of GO! Curriculum and author of Feeding Faith, shares the story behind his leap from kids ministry director to curriculum creator. Jeremy and David dig into what makes curriculum actually work: developmental appropriateness, the E.A.T. framework, and why GO!'s chronological scope and sequence was built around the rhythms of the calendar year. If you've ever used GO! Curriculum, wondered how curriculum gets made, or needed a reminder that God often calls the wrong person on purpose, this one's for you. Quick Links: GO! Curriculum [https://gocurriculum.com/] Feeding Faith by David Rausch [https://www.amazon.com/Feeding-Faith-Childrens-Ministry-Generation/dp/B0GCM76D8K/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2KWXG9GIZTJZT&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.iyW_Fya1UdtJ_-tlsI3Wzxaz0vWWOmyPa9OIVy287Zbm_vMA82X-WL7vbc9cMvXX.PtvtetblAI0LgccCRrp5236N3_pxoHqkTomthbDrp0U&dib_tag=se&keywords=feeding+faith+by+david+rausch&qid=1778304269&sprefix=feeding+faith%2Caps%2C218&sr=8-1] Two Minute Trainer for Small Group Leaders [https://gocurriculum.com/wp-content/uploads/2-Minute-Trainer_Small-Group.pdf] Two Minute Trainer for Large Group Teachers [https://gocurriculum.com/wp-content/uploads/2-Minute-Trainer_Large-Group-Edition-1.pdf]