Smoke and Steel

[E050] You've Changed Too Much to Love It the Same Way

1 h 36 min Β· 8. juli 2026
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We asked the Stogie Review Facebook Crew what discontinued cigar they'd bring back if they could. Thirty-seven comments came in. Then Rob said something that stopped the whole conversation cold - even if you could guarantee the same tobacco, same roller, same run, you've changed too much to love it the same way. That's Episode 050. This week it's a lighter crew in the garage - Walt, Rob, Jim, and Eric. With a La Aurora Cameroon, a Room 101 Johnny Tobacconaut, a PDR Cigars Small Batch Reserve Maduro, and a Lawless by Black Label Trading Co. in the rotation. The discontinued smokes list runs long: old school Camacho Triple Maduros, Leaf by James, the Room 101 13th Anniversary pink band, Cuban Davidoffs, Padilla Signature 1932, and a few none of us had ever heard of before the comments rolled in. Skip Martin's take on the whole thing is worth sticking around for. We also get into the cigar lounge versus online pricing debate - a conversation that keeps coming back because the industry keeps changing and so do our habits. Plus an update on the October trip to the LA Cigar Collective, Sean from The Burnable coming to the garage in person, and Jason's custom travel humidor finally making its way to us. πŸ‘‰ If you enjoy this video, please like, comment, and subscribe for more cigar talk every week. πŸ”— Connect With Us: 🌐 Website: https://stogiereview.com/ πŸ“˜ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/StogieReview/ πŸ“· Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/stogiereview/ πŸ’¬ Discord: https://discord.gg/8h5tuYaqJV β˜• Support us on Ko-Fi: https://ko-fi.com/stogiereview πŸ‘• Check out our NEW MERCH: https://www.stickermule.com/stogiereview πŸ“§ Email: Walt@StogieReview.com CHAPTERS 0:00 Welcome to Episode 050 0:18 Light Crew, Heavy Rotation 1:05 Walt Runs Into Abe at Smoke-onos 2:10 The Blackened S84 Conversation 4:24 Room 101 Johnny Tobacconaut β€” Box Orders and Availability 5:46 Online Orders, Shipping Chaos, and Cigar Page 9:03 What We Bought This Week 15:14 Plasencia Deep Dive 23:28 Humidor Talk β€” Beads, Boveda, and Cooler Builds 30:31 Eric Joins the Garage 39:24 The One-Dimensional Cigar Question 42:41 Discontinued Cigars β€” 37 Comments From the Discord 50:01 Cigar Lounge vs Online Pricing 1:00:07 What the Best Lounges Actually Built 1:15:36 AJ Brown Trade β€” Sports Corner 1:17:09 Officer Down β€” Local News 1:18:46 The LACC Trip Takes Shape 1:25:35 Sean From The Burnable Is Coming to the Garage 1:31:25 Fan Engagement and Top Supporters

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[E050] You've Changed Too Much to Love It the Same Way

We asked the Stogie Review Facebook Crew what discontinued cigar they'd bring back if they could. Thirty-seven comments came in. Then Rob said something that stopped the whole conversation cold - even if you could guarantee the same tobacco, same roller, same run, you've changed too much to love it the same way. That's Episode 050. This week it's a lighter crew in the garage - Walt, Rob, Jim, and Eric. With a La Aurora Cameroon, a Room 101 Johnny Tobacconaut, a PDR Cigars Small Batch Reserve Maduro, and a Lawless by Black Label Trading Co. in the rotation. The discontinued smokes list runs long: old school Camacho Triple Maduros, Leaf by James, the Room 101 13th Anniversary pink band, Cuban Davidoffs, Padilla Signature 1932, and a few none of us had ever heard of before the comments rolled in. Skip Martin's take on the whole thing is worth sticking around for. We also get into the cigar lounge versus online pricing debate - a conversation that keeps coming back because the industry keeps changing and so do our habits. Plus an update on the October trip to the LA Cigar Collective, Sean from The Burnable coming to the garage in person, and Jason's custom travel humidor finally making its way to us. πŸ‘‰ If you enjoy this video, please like, comment, and subscribe for more cigar talk every week. πŸ”— Connect With Us: 🌐 Website: https://stogiereview.com/ πŸ“˜ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/StogieReview/ πŸ“· Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/stogiereview/ πŸ’¬ Discord: https://discord.gg/8h5tuYaqJV β˜• Support us on Ko-Fi: https://ko-fi.com/stogiereview πŸ‘• Check out our NEW MERCH: https://www.stickermule.com/stogiereview πŸ“§ Email: Walt@StogieReview.com CHAPTERS 0:00 Welcome to Episode 050 0:18 Light Crew, Heavy Rotation 1:05 Walt Runs Into Abe at Smoke-onos 2:10 The Blackened S84 Conversation 4:24 Room 101 Johnny Tobacconaut β€” Box Orders and Availability 5:46 Online Orders, Shipping Chaos, and Cigar Page 9:03 What We Bought This Week 15:14 Plasencia Deep Dive 23:28 Humidor Talk β€” Beads, Boveda, and Cooler Builds 30:31 Eric Joins the Garage 39:24 The One-Dimensional Cigar Question 42:41 Discontinued Cigars β€” 37 Comments From the Discord 50:01 Cigar Lounge vs Online Pricing 1:00:07 What the Best Lounges Actually Built 1:15:36 AJ Brown Trade β€” Sports Corner 1:17:09 Officer Down β€” Local News 1:18:46 The LACC Trip Takes Shape 1:25:35 Sean From The Burnable Is Coming to the Garage 1:31:25 Fan Engagement and Top Supporters

8. juli 20261 h 36 min
episode [E049] We Finally Ranked the Padron 1964 artwork

[E049] We Finally Ranked the Padron 1964

The Padron 1964 Anniversary Series Maduro is officially number one on the Smoke and Steel Top 25 list. We also added the Tatuaje Black Petit Lancero, had a real conversation about where My Father Blue actually belongs, and Padre Bruce brought Mayflower Cigars - a brand most of us had never smoked, hand-rolled at the Oliva factory in Nicaragua. Full house in the garage this week. Between the cigar talk, we got into butane - whether Xikar, Vector, and Prometheus actually perform differently than the cheap stuff, and what happened when someone ran Ronsonol through their lighters. Walt, Eric, and Eddie recapped the Smoke-onos Cigar Festival in the Poconos, including the backpacks that turned out to be full military rucksacks and the hike through the Appalachians that nobody asked for. Sean from The Burnable also delivered a real theme song, and the custom travel humidor for the next box pass is officially in the works. Check out the full post: https://stogiereview.com/2026/06/05/smoke-and-steel-episode-049/ πŸ‘‰ If you enjoy this video, please like, comment, and subscribe for more cigar talk every week. πŸ”— Connect With Us: 🌐 Website: https://stogiereview.com/ πŸ“˜ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/StogieReview/ πŸ“· Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/stogiereview/ πŸ’¬ Discord: https://discord.gg/8h5tuYaqJV β˜• Support us on Ko-Fi: https://ko-fi.com/stogiereview πŸ‘• Check out our NEW MERCH: https://www.stickermule.com/stogiereview πŸ“§ Email: Walt@StogieReview.com CHAPTERS 0:00 Welcome to the Garage 1:33 What's Everyone Smoking Tonight 2:17 Mayflower Cigars: Dawn and Dusk 5:06 Made at the Oliva Factory 10:14 What Did You Buy This Week 15:00 Red Meat Lovers by Dunbarton 21:41 Let's Talk Butane 32:10 Smoke-onos Festival Recap 34:28 Running Into Michael Herklots 38:05 Whatever Happened to Cigar Fest 46:20 Second Cigars of the Night 51:36 Top Fans of the Week 1:02:59 The New Theme Song 1:05:14 Box Pass Gets an Upgrade 1:26:54 The Top 25 List Gets Serious 1:31:47 PadrΓ³n 1964 Goes to Number One 1:37:40 One-Year Anniversary Plans 1:38:31 Merch Shop Is Almost Ready 1:46:04 Good Night from Gilbertsville

1. juli 20261 h 49 min
episode [E048] Michael Herklots Caught Us Without a Cigar at Smoke-Onos artwork

[E048] Michael Herklots Caught Us Without a Cigar at Smoke-Onos

At the Smoke-Onos cigar festival in the Poconos, Walt walked up to Michael Herklots standing alone in his booth, and the first thing out of Herklots' mouth was that Walt was at a cigar festival without a cigar and that needed to be fixed. Thirty seconds later, a Timeless Supreme was cut and lit. Episode 048 is the full Smoke-Onos debrief. Walt, Eddie, and Eric break down how the festival actually works, how it compares to the old Cigarfest format, the swag that genuinely surprised everyone, and the shortcut through the woods that turned out to be not much of a shortcut. Abe Flores, West Tampa Tobacco Co., Black Label Trading Co., Octane Cigars, and the Dunbarton Red Meat Lovers all come up. So does an Outcast by Miami Cigar Co. with a sugar cap and Cavendish pipe tobacco that Eric had no idea about when he lit it - and liked more than he expected. Back in the garage, the crew gets into the Kelner 80th Anniversary, the Plasencia Alma Fuerte Colorado Claro, the Thunderkiss batch situation, Curivari as one of the most underrated lines in the humidor, and a Padron aging tip worth writing down. Eric also closes out the Smoke and Steel community box pass with some numbers that are worth sticking around for. Read the full post here: https://stogiereview.com/2026/05/25/smoke-and-steel-episode-048/ πŸ‘‰ If you enjoy this video, please like, comment, and subscribe for more cigar talk every week. πŸ”— Connect With Us: 🌐 Website: https://stogiereview.com/ πŸ“˜ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/StogieReview/ πŸ“· Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/stogiereview/ πŸ’¬ Discord: https://discord.gg/8h5tuYaqJV β˜• Support us on Ko-Fi: https://ko-fi.com/stogiereview πŸ‘• Check out our NEW MERCH: https://www.stickermule.com/stogiereview πŸ“§ Email: Walt@StogieReview.com CHAPTERS 0:00 Welcome to Episode 048 1:18 Who Is Smoking Tonight 2:27 Smoke-Onos Festival Breakdown 5:19 Tickets vs. No Tickets Debate 7:45 The Swag That Actually Impressed Us 9:03 The Content Was a Fail 9:29 The Shortcut Through the Woods 11:52 Weekend Cigars and Local Shops 15:23 Cigar Mojo King of Prussia Update 20:08 EPS Beverage β€” Worth the Trip 23:46 Franks and the Beer Distributor Cigar Scene 27:05 Cheap Finds and Hidden Gems 32:23 Jim Hits Fumar in Reno 35:09 West Tampa and the Devil Crab 38:50 Michael Herklots and the Timeless Supreme 41:17 Crown Heads, Blood Medicine, and the Bear Run 48:04 Walt's LACC Order Breakdown 50:39 Thunder Kiss Batch Two Situation 54:01 Leaf by Oscar and the Raw Dog 1:01:04 Curivari β€” The Most Underrated Cigar in Your Humidor 1:03:13 Jim's Black Label Tiger Source 1:07:44 Mayflower Cigars by Michael Knowles 1:16:08 Crown Heads Moonflower and Creekside Collab 1:23:08 Eric Arrives 1:26:21 The Outcast Sugar Cap Surprise 1:30:40 Backpack Patches and Festival Swag Revisited 1:37:34 Box Pass Final Stats 1:40:21 T-Ball Season Update 1:46:26 Fans of the Week 1:57:13 Smoke-Onos Final Thoughts

24. juni 20262 h 10 min
episode [E047] Eight Years Sober. He Saved the Opus X for Tonight artwork

[E047] Eight Years Sober. He Saved the Opus X for Tonight

Eric came in Tuesday night with an Opus X Forbidden X he'd been holding onto for the right occasion. That occasion was eight years of sobriety. The crew gave him a hard time about it. That's how you know it meant something.Episode 047 from the garage in Gilbertsville, PA. We talked about the Don Carlos Blood of the Bull and the retailer pricing conversation that never really gets resolved, ran through a strong batch of fan questions covering cigar recommendations, lounge memberships, and whether boutique hype is losing ground to value buying right now. El Mago came up more than once, the old lounge came up more than anyone planned, and Joe Macko's Cigar Page haul ruined Rob's night in the best possible way.Also on the table: what a Smoke and Steel booth at PCA would actually look like, which member of the extended crew you'd want stranded on a desert island with you, and the Fuente Toast Across America being the one release where the packaging is half the point.For more visit: https://stogiereview.com/2026/05/25/smoke-and-steel-episode-047/πŸ‘‰ If you enjoy this video, please like, comment, and subscribe for more cigar talk every week.πŸ”— Connect With Us:🌐 Website: https://stogiereview.com/πŸ“˜ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/StogieReview/πŸ“· Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/stogiereview/πŸ’¬ Discord: https://discord.gg/8h5tuYaqJVβ˜• Support us on Ko-Fi: https://ko-fi.com/stogiereviewπŸ‘• Check out our NEW MERCH: https://www.stickermule.com/stogiereviewπŸ“§ Email: Walt@StogieReview.comCHAPTERS0:00 We're Rolling, Sort Of1:20 Welcome to the Garage3:48 Last Week's Fan Appreciation Show6:45 Burnable Hats and Sean's Site8:00 What Did You Buy This Week8:34 Don Carlos Blood of the Bull9:13 The MSRP Conversation Nobody Wins14:25 LACC Two-Year Anniversary and the Wrong Order19:38 New Shop Outside Coatsville21:08 Smoking Festival This Weekend22:18 Outdoor Smoking Season Setup24:10 Fans of the Week26:17 Daily Discussion Topics and AI's Limits29:28 El Mago by Band Color32:22 Hulk Hogan Documentary Tangent37:38 Sister Wives and Scientology Tangent39:27 Fan Questions Begin39:38 How Many Chances Do You Give a Cigar44:22 Taking Recommendations From the Wrong Person47:00 The Smoke and Steel PCA Booth49:50 Boutique Hype vs. Value Buying56:11 Desert Island with the Extended Crew58:31 How Do You Kill Cigar Breath59:48 Smoke a Cigar With Anyone, Living or Dead1:08:32 Angelo's and the Michelin Cheesesteak1:09:36 Philly John Italian Market Coming to Town1:13:32 Lounge in Memphis Segment1:15:17 Lounge Membership Pricing1:20:06 The Old Lounge and What It Actually Was1:25:07 Joe Macko's Cigar Page Haul Ruins Rob's Night1:27:34 Cigar Packaging and What Might Have Legs1:31:37 What Cigar Would Your Personality Be1:36:29 Eric's Eight Years1:37:17 Eagles on Thanksgiving, Sports Clock Burns1:38:06 Outro

17. juni 20261 h 42 min
episode [E046] We Designed Our Own Cigar and It Got Weird Fast artwork

[E046] We Designed Our Own Cigar and It Got Weird Fast

It's Cinco de Mayo in the garage, and instead of a normal episode we brought the fans in. Jason from Connecticut, Joe from Louisiana, Sean from the Burnable, Brad from Jackson Tennessee, and Matt all joined us to talk about what got them into cigars, how they found the show, and - somewhere in the back half - what it would look like if Smoke and Steel ever blended its own cigar.That last conversation started with a Discord message from Brad and ended with Walt calling for a 6x60 candela culebra in multiple colors. Jim had a different answer. So did Eric the Elder. Nobody fully agreed and that's kind of the point.Along the way we got into what Joe and Sean saw at PCA - including a packed-out Definition Cigars event at LA Cigar Collective, the new LFD Carbon Flower, and a brand new line called Pariah Cigars out of the Domaine factory. We talked about Rob's first ever bad Ashton VSG, why Padron almost never misses and what actually goes into making that consistent, the Cuban cigar counterfeit problem nobody wants to admit is real, and what it means when a brand changes a blend that wasn't broken. Plus the crew weighs in on Abbina Craft Sipping Soda, Definition's Big Iron making the top 25, and one listener whose wife calls us "his friends on the internet."Cigars in the garage tonight: Santa Muerte by Black Label, Olmec by Foundation, Ave Maria, Tatuaje Tuxtla, Tabernacle Knight Commander by Foundation.Read the Full Post Here: https://stogiereview.com/2026/06/10/smoke-and-steel-episode-046/πŸ‘‰ If you enjoy this video, please like, comment, and subscribe for more cigar talk every week.πŸ”— Connect With Us:🌐 Website: https://stogiereview.com/πŸ“˜ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/StogieReview/πŸ“· Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/stogiereview/πŸ’¬ Discord: https://discord.gg/8h5tuYaqJVβ˜• Support us on Ko-Fi: https://ko-fi.com/stogiereviewπŸ‘• Check out our NEW MERCH: https://www.stickermule.com/stogiereviewπŸ“§ Email: Walt@StogieReview.comCHAPTERS0:00 Welcome to Cinco de Mayo Night1:12 The Garage Crew and Tonight's Cigars3:17 Joe Macko Sent Us Cigars β€” A Thank You4:32 Jason Bashard: How He Found the Show8:44 Sean from the Burnable Joins In13:34 Joe at PCA: New Deals and Big News17:25 Sean's Role at PCA: Scouting for LACC20:00 Abbina Craft Sipping Soda at the Show24:30 What Do You Want Us to Do Better31:24 Brad Wiggly Calls In from Tennessee38:28 Foundation, Definition, and New Smokes45:00 Definition Cigars: The Jamond Story57:42 Big Iron, Pariah, and the Carbon Flower1:08:24 Rob's First Bad VSG1:11:44 Price Points and Trusting a Brand1:15:55 The Smoke and Steel House Blend1:20:25 Cubans: Worth Chasing or Not1:32:00 What You Mean to Us

10. juni 20261 h 38 min