Ep 211 Doomsday Prophecies + Threats in AA's Big Book

Ep 211 The D*ath Threats From AA Members

Last week we explored some of the doomsday prophecies in AA's Big Book. This week we're diving deep into death threats that come from AA members directly. I do believe most of these people have good intentions and say that leaving will kill us because they actually believe it. The problem, of course, is that the fear AA instills in us isn't a fact. Leaving AA does not mean we are going to die, even if some do. Leaving AA and "graduating" recovery is something I believe should be celebrated. We finished our addiction recovery journey. This is great news. A huge victory in fact. Or some may decide to always have support. Also great. The point is that we have choice. Recovery is so individual. Timestamps: 00:00 AA Member Death Threats Intro 04:01 AA Member Threatened I'd Die 07:14 The Actual Comment 08:30 1. Leaving is equivalent to drinking again 09:15 2. Leaving means death 11:11 3. There are only two outcomes: stay in AA or die 12:08 4. Your judgment can't be trusted 14:43 5. The AA member knows your future 15:32 6. Your fate is already determined 16:40 7. Fear is an appropriate tool of persuasion 20:03 8. Staying doesn't lead to funerals 24:13 9. Survivorship bias in the funerals 27:01 Believing The Threats Traps Us 🔥 Deprogram Course + leaving AA resources → here [https://www.sobrietybestie.com ] 🧠 Brain optimization tools → here [https://www.kirsten-johnson.com/brain] ❤️‍🔥 If you’re ready to stop holding yourself back → here [ https://www.kirsten-johnson.com] Come vibe with me: Kirsten's Facebook [https://www.facebook.com/its.KirstenJohnson ] Kirsten's Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/its.kirstenjohnson/] Kirsten's TikTok [ https://www.tiktok.com/@its_kirstenjohnson] 📱 My content creation setup (camera, mic, lighting, etc.) → here [https://www.kirsten-johnson.com/content ] 💻 Tools + software I use to run my business and create online → here [https://www.kirsten-johnson.com/tech] ⚠️ Disclaimer: I’m not a therapist, doctor, or licensed healthcare provider. Everything shared is for educational purposes only and not a substitute for professional care. 💖 Some links may be affiliate links. I only share what I genuinely use and love.

Ep 211 Doomsday Prophecies + Threats in AA's Big Book

Today we're going to unpack the doomsday and death threats inside AA's Big Book. This is part of how some of us can become what cult psychology calls "phobia indoctrinated" or afraid to leave the group. Timestamps: 00:00 AA's Doomsday Prophecies Intro 01:20 AA's Might Not See The Threats 03:41 What Counts As "AA"? 06:22 Death, Insanity, Doomsday Threats 16:19 Hopeless, Incurable, Powerless Threats 30:55 Institutions, Asylums, Permanent Collapse Threats 34:15 Phobia Indoctrination 🔥 Deprogram Course + leaving AA resources → here [https://www.sobrietybestie.com ] 🧠 Brain optimization tools → here [https://www.kirsten-johnson.com/brain] ❤️‍🔥 If you’re ready to stop holding yourself back → here [ https://www.kirsten-johnson.com] Come vibe with me: Kirsten's Facebook [https://www.facebook.com/its.KirstenJohnson ] Kirsten's Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/its.kirstenjohnson/] Kirsten's TikTok [ https://www.tiktok.com/@its_kirstenjohnson] 📱 My content creation setup (camera, mic, lighting, etc.) → here [https://www.kirsten-johnson.com/content ] 💻 Tools + software I use to run my business and create online → here [https://www.kirsten-johnson.com/tech] ⚠️ Disclaimer: I’m not a therapist, doctor, or licensed healthcare provider. Everything shared is for educational purposes only and not a substitute for professional care. 💖 Some links may be affiliate links. I only share what I genuinely use and love.

Ep 210 Deprogram AA Live with Monica Richardson

The 13th Step Filmmaker Monica Richardson and I went live today on YouTube. Today's podcast is the audio version our conversation and Q+A with the livestream audience about deprogramming AA. Monica Richardson links: Monica Richardson YouTube [ https://www.youtube.com/@UCzqjwZbSWSlxdoCqAnBljZg], 13th Step Film [ https://youtu.be/-iUd6qZRSi8?si=wT5v8583bmG5soBE] Safe Recovery Podcast [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/safe-recovery-podcast-leaving-alcoholics-anonymous/id1867842995] Deprogram Facebook group [https://www.facebook.com/groups/501946473678776] 🔥 Deprogram Course + leaving AA resources → here [https://www.sobrietybestie.com ] 🧠 Brain optimization tools → here [https://www.kirsten-johnson.com/brain] ❤️‍🔥 If you’re ready to stop holding yourself back → here [ https://www.kirsten-johnson.com] Come vibe with me: Kirsten's Facebook [https://www.facebook.com/its.KirstenJohnson ] Kirsten's Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/its.kirstenjohnson/] Kirsten's TikTok [ https://www.tiktok.com/@its_kirstenjohnson] 📱 My content creation setup (camera, mic, lighting, etc.) → here [https://www.kirsten-johnson.com/content ] 💻 Tools + software I use to run my business and create online → here [https://www.kirsten-johnson.com/tech] ⚠️ Disclaimer: I’m not a therapist, doctor, or licensed healthcare provider. Everything shared is for educational purposes only and not a substitute for professional care. 💖 Some links may be affiliate links. I only share what I genuinely use and love.

Ep 209 Thirty Rehabs, Leaving AA + Pioneering Modern Recovery — Justin's Story

Justin had to leave 12 step after 17 years in order to get sober. He shares about people dying in AA, realizing it's a cult, and how Ibogaine is what ultimately got him sober. Now he runs a modern addiction detox clinic and is pioneering modern addiction recovery. Justin's Karity Clinic [https://klarityclinic.com/ ] and TikTok [https://www.tiktok.com/@nadplusdetox ] Timestamps: 00:00 Intro Justin's Story 12:50 Ibogaine Treatment 18:04 Day He Left AA 21:12 DJ AM's Death + 12 Step 28:11 Relapse, Shame, Shunning 35:46 Addiction Recovery Is Outdated 50:33 Psychedelics Got Him Sober 57:17 "Your Part," Amends, R*pe 1:03:26 Ketamine Assisted Psychotherapy + Modern Rehabs 1:15:40 Deprogramming Abstinence 1:25:28 Why Traditional Rehabs Fall Short 1:36:20 Psychedelics In Recovery, Predators, Narcissists 1:44:19 Psychedelics After AA Awakening 2:11:25 AA Trolls 2:17:29 K-holes, Ketamine, Healing 2:27:05 Drugs To Get Off Drugs? 2:31:58 Brainwashing Can Happen Fast 🔥 Free Deprogram Course + leaving AA resources → here [https://www.sobrietybestie.com ] 🧠 Brain optimization tools → here [https://www.kirsten-johnson.com/brain] ❤️‍🔥 If you’re ready to stop holding yourself back → here [ https://www.kirsten-johnson.com] Come vibe with me: Kirsten's Facebook [https://www.facebook.com/its.KirstenJohnson ] Kirsten's Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/its.kirstenjohnson/] Kirsten's TikTok [ https://www.tiktok.com/@its_kirstenjohnson] 📱 My content creation setup (camera, mic, lighting, etc.) → here [https://www.kirsten-johnson.com/content ] 💻 Tools + software I use to run my business and create online → here [https://www.kirsten-johnson.com/tech] ⚠️ Disclaimer: I’m not a therapist, doctor, or licensed healthcare provider. Everything shared is for educational purposes only and not a substitute for professional care. 💖 Some links may be affiliate links. I only share what I genuinely use and love.

Ep 208 Dangerous AA Comment

Is talking about alternative recovery paths "dangerous?" Or is promoting one as the only way what's actually dangerous? Today's episode dives deep into what I'd tell my 2009 getting sober self if I could go back. Hint I wouldn't go to AA or rehab, I'd go another route. This of course is not medical advice. It's what I wish I'd known back then so that I could have made a more informed decision about how to address my alcohol addiction. 🔥 Free Deprogram Course + leaving AA resources → here [https://www.sobrietybestie.com ] 🧠 Brain optimization tools → here [https://www.kirsten-johnson.com/brain] ❤️‍🔥 If you’re ready to stop holding yourself back → here [ https://www.kirsten-johnson.com] Come vibe with me: Kirsten's Facebook [https://www.facebook.com/its.KirstenJohnson ] Kirsten's Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/its.kirstenjohnson/] Kirsten's TikTok [ https://www.tiktok.com/@its_kirstenjohnson] 📱 My content creation setup (camera, mic, lighting, etc.) → here [https://www.kirsten-johnson.com/content ] 💻 Tools + software I use to run my business and create online → here [https://www.kirsten-johnson.com/tech] ⚠️ Disclaimer: I’m not a therapist, doctor, or licensed healthcare provider. Everything shared is for educational purposes only and not a substitute for professional care. 💖 Some links may be affiliate links. I only share what I genuinely use and love.