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Critics Say the Travelers Championship Is Trash. The Leaderboard Says Otherwise.

20 min · 1. juli 2026
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Critics Say the Travelers Championship Is Trash. The Leaderboard Says Otherwise. This episode is sponsored by Quince. Free shipping and 365-day returns at Quince.com/wingo Every year the Travelers Championship delivers something nobody sees coming. And every year a certain corner of golf media decides it is not a real tournament. This week Trey and Justin push back on that take — hard. The History of Wild Finishes Let's start with what TPC River Highlands has actually produced over the last fifteen years. Kevin Streelman with seven consecutive birdies in 2014 to win out of nowhere. Jordan Spieth holing out from the bunker on 18 in 2017 — a month before winning the Open Championship. Dustin Johnson winning one of the first events back after COVID. Harris English and Kramer Hickok going eight playoff holes. Sahith Theegala almost getting his first PGA Tour win before Xander Schauffele clipped him. Keegan Bradley setting a scoring record. The Scotty Scheffler and Tom Kim playoff. Keegan Bradley again last year, breaking Tommy Fleetwood's heart on the last hole. And now Victor Hovland winning his eighth career PGA Tour title in a playoff over Scotty Scheffler — both players hitting unbelievable approach shots on the first playoff hole, Hovland making birdie, Scotty's putt slipping out. In a week that also featured Norwegian World Cup fans creating a miniature Ryder Cup atmosphere in the stands that nobody saw coming. Scotty Scheffler shot a 60 in one round this week and did not win. That is the Travelers Championship. That is what this tournament does. The Leaderboard Argument The criticism of the Travelers tends to center on the golf course itself — the layout, the scoring, the birdie-fest nature of TPC River Highlands. Trey's counterargument is simple and direct. Look at the leaderboard from Sunday. Victor Hovland. Scotty Scheffler. Colin Morikawa. Matt Fitzpatrick. Wyndham Clark. Akshay Bhatia. Corey Conners. Alex Fitzpatrick. JJ Spaun. Robert MacIntyre. Ben Griffin. Name a tournament on the PGA Tour where you would not immediately sign up for that leaderboard. The score to par does not change who is on it. The architectural concerns do not change what those names mean to a golf fan watching on Sunday afternoon. For comparison — the AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am regularly produces similar scoring ranges. Nobody is calling Pebble Beach trash. The criticism of the Travelers is about the course layout specifically, and that is a legitimate architectural opinion. What it is not is a reason to call the tournament bad. What the Travelers Actually Is Trey talked to players on-site this week — Lucas Glover, Chris Gotterup, Colin Morikawa, Xander Schauffele among others. Every single one of them said the same thing. The Travelers understands what it is. And more importantly it understands what it is not. It is not the US Open. It is not the Players Championship. It is not Arnie's event or Jack's event. It is the week after the US Open — a deliberate breather on the schedule where players can reset, families can come out, and the golf can be genuinely fun without being punishing. The Celtics do not play the Knicks every week in the NBA. The Chiefs and Bills do not meet every single Sunday in the NFL. Sometimes you get a breather. The question is whether you embrace it or fight against it. The Travelers embraced it. That is why it works. Chris Gotterup put it best — we are spoiled every week, but the Travelers goes one step further. Courtesy cars for caddies. Food on the range. The dining room stays open late so players and their families can eat after a long day. Small things that compound into a week that feels genuinely welcoming. That is what the Travelers does. That is why players keep coming back. The Scotty Scheffler Question Scotty forced a playoff with a par putt on 18 that had every Golf Live viewer convinced the drought was finally over. 13 straight events without a win. Two under his belt for the season heading into the Open Championship. And then Hovland made his birdie on the first playoff hole and Scotty's almost identical putt just slipped out. Justin's read on where Scotty actually is — do not panic. His putting numbers at the Travelers were exceptional and continue to improve, now 12th on the PGA Tour in strokes gained putting. His iron play ranked sixth in the field last week in strokes gained approach and third in greens in regulation. He leads the PGA Tour in strokes gained total and scoring average. He is gaining strokes in every facet of the game. The putts are not falling in the moments that count. They are going to start. Justin would not be surprised to see Scotty win both the Scottish Open and the Open Championship heading into the playoffs. The gap between him and Rory at number two in the world rankings is roughly the same as the gap between Rory and Bud Cauley at number three. He is not going anywhere. The drought is a math problem that is about to solve itself. The Alex Fitzpatrick ATM Update Since winning the Zurich Classic with his brother Matt in April outside New Orleans, Alex Fitzpatrick has been on one of the most remarkable money-making runs in recent PGA Tour history. T9 at the Cadillac for $500,000. Fourth at the Travelers for $960,000. T6 at the Memorial for $730,000. Top 25 at the US Open for another significant check. $623,000 at the Travelers this week. He is now inside the top 60 in the world and top 17 in the FedEx Cup standings. Justin notes he is drifting toward automatic qualifying at the majors. Trey's take — if he keeps this up, there is no way he is not on the Ryder Cup team at Adare Manor in 2027. The conversation that seemed premature two months ago is now entirely appropriate. Justin gives the overall rookie of the year edge narrowly to Chris Ratan given his PGA Tour win, but calls it a genuinely interesting race heading into the back half of the season. The Bottom Line The Travelers Championship is not a perfect golf course. Nobody is arguing that. But perfect golf courses do not guarantee great tournaments. Great tournaments are built on great fields, great finishes, and a genuine identity that players and fans both buy into. The Travelers has all three. And this week delivered another chapter in a fifteen-year run of memorable Sundays at TPC River Highlands. Trash? The leaderboard says otherwise. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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