EP.22 Latin America | Where Crypto Solves Real Problems

EP 23. From Football to Crypto: 90 Million Users Later

Sometimes the road into crypto doesn’t start with blockchain… it starts (drum roll) with football🥁💥 In the new episode of SwapSpace Huddle — Jamie Elkaleh, CMO of Bitget Wallet, a product used by 90+ million people worldwide. His story is about how a simple conversation with a neighbour can change your life. Just a few years ago, Jamie was working in football around Manchester City. Today he’s helping build one of the largest crypto ecosystems in the world — watching from the inside as the architecture of finance itself changes. This conversation has everything: ⚽ the journey from football management into crypto🧠 how people think when they run products for tens of millions of users🖼 why NFTs aren’t just pictures, but a new form of digital ownership (for the first time in our show, someone actually believes in NFTs!)🎰 meme coins: casino or an inevitable part of the crypto economy⚔️ is the real wallet vs exchange war already starting?🌍 and why the future of finance may be completely on-chain Watch until the end — some of these stories you’ll definitely want to retell to your friends. Time Codes00:00 — Intro 01:02 — Bitget Wallet and 90+ million users 04:30 — What the crypto market looks like from the inside: chaos or system? 06:05 — How Jamie entered the crypto industry 10:37 — Why user education matters in crypto 10:54 — NFTs: a new form of digital ownership 12:15 — The conversation with a neighbour that changed everything 14:04 — Working in football and the Manchester City experience 17:40 — What actually works in the crypto industry 20:30 — How people think when running products for millions of users 24:25 — Wallets vs exchanges: is a new war beginning? 28:10 — Why self-custody is becoming more important 36:30 — Meme coins: casino or part of a new economy? 42:36 — A bit about SwapSpace and the role of aggregators in the ecosystem

EP.22 Latin America | Where Crypto Solves Real Problems

What happens to crypto where it’s actually needed? While in Europe people debate cryptocurrencies, discuss regulation, and write long reports, in Latin America people simply use them every day. Here, inflation can eat up a salary in a matter of months. Bank transfers between neighboring countries can sometimes take weeks. Freelancers often struggle to receive payments from clients in other parts of the world. That’s why cryptocurrencies in the region are not a fashionable experiment or just another investment trend — they’re infrastructure. In the new episode of SwapSpace Huddle, we spoke with Ernesto Contreras — Bitcoin OG and founder of the startup Unalivio. He has spent years working in the Latin American crypto market and has witnessed how these technologies are gradually becoming part of everyday life. In this episode, we explore the key questions of why and how: 🌎💵 why stablecoin adoption is growing so rapidly in the region 🌵💻 how cryptocurrencies help people work with international clients☕📱 why it can sometimes be easier to pay with Binance than through a bank 🪇🚀 how to build a startup in an unstable economic environment 🌶️⚡ why the real crypto economy grows out of necessity, not hype. 00:00 –  Intro01:25 – Ernesto: from Venezuela to Mexico, China, Bitcoin and the start of his crypto journey 03:35 – Why Latin America is different: fragmented banking, inflation and real crypto adoption 06:10 – USDT as a digital dollar: what people in LatAm actually want 08:05 – Unalivio: from medical payments to creator monetization 09:59 – Volatility vs utility: why real users do not care about bull and bear markets 11:53 – Speculation vs necessity: why demand in LatAm stays alive 14:07 – From transfers to a real crypto economy: salaries, payments and B2B settlements 16:45 – Scaling in LatAm: why the future is about solutions, not crypto jargon 18:30 – The founder’s main challenge: product-market fit above everything 20:48 – Why Unalivio started with Venezuela and not Mexico 21:16 – Advice for SwapSpace: how to enter Latin America the right way 24:37 – The next 3–5 years: interconnection, privacy and crypto as a freedom tool 26:30 – Ernesto’s advice to young entrepreneurs: 98 hard days out of 100

EP. 21 Women Are Changing the Web3 Game

New host alert: Wesley S. — podcast lead and Head of Partnerships at SwapSpace (yes, the guy with the mic and the vibe).And right out of the gate — legendary guests:👑 Elena Sinelnikova — Co-founder of @Metis_L2 and @cryptochickseducation6872 🐾 Natalia Ameline — @Metis_L2 Decentralization Coordinator (and yes, Vitalik Buterin’s mom — we went there, gently)What’s inside: 00:00 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nq6wa_nzMFE] New faces, big names — Meet the host and the women behind the mic 01:59 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nq6wa_nzMFE&t=119s] What is metis? Beyond the whitepaper 05:02 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nq6wa_nzMFE&t=302s] Goddess of wisdom on the blockchain — where the name “metis” comes from 06:00 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nq6wa_nzMFE&t=360s] What is regenesis? Metis reborn for the ai era 08:37 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nq6wa_nzMFE&t=517s] What’s under the hood: Hyperion, Zkm, LazAI and more 11:22 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nq6wa_nzMFE&t=682s] Who does what: Natalia and Elena’s roles in the ecosystem 14:29 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nq6wa_nzMFE&t=869s] About vitalik: rare meetups and talks about life — not blockchain 16:13 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nq6wa_nzMFE&t=973s] 2025 highlights 19:57 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nq6wa_nzMFE&t=1197s] Why ai can’t fully live on blockchain (yet): hint — it’s about parallelism 23:25 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nq6wa_nzMFE&t=1405s] Dream project 26:37 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nq6wa_nzMFE&t=1597s] The biggest fear? Not living to see the tech change the world 31:32 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nq6wa_nzMFE&t=1892s] Final thoughts: why we’re doing this — and what a fair AI future looks like

EP. 20 ETFs, XRP’s “Domino Theory,” and Crypto’s Next Leap with Jacob Claver

This episode, host Turpal sits down with Jake Claver, crypto wealth manager, founder of Digital Wealth Partners and Digital Family Office, and YouTuber with 1,000+ videos, to unpack where crypto is headed next. From Bitcoin’s ETF-driven boom-and-bust dynamics to why utility chains may win the long game, Jake shares a deeply researched, contrarian-yet-coherent thesis that ties macro, regulation, and market structure into one narrative. Episode Breakdown 00:00 — Origin story: From 2020 FAANG buys to discovering “the Internet of Value” 04:07 — Why crypto: Protocols, immutable ledgers, and utility beyond speculation 05:03 — First-cycle lessons: Wins, sells, taxes, and building the right advisory circle 05:41 — From DIY to family office: Finding CPAs/attorneys who actually get crypto 06:27 — Who they serve: XRP/Hedera/XLM/XDC holders with 0.5–5M allocations 06:56 — Services: Structures, trusts, documentation, bill-pay, domestic & international teams 10:32 — Bitcoin now: Digital gold, block-size regrets, and why band-aid L2s won’t win banks 11:53 — The bear case: ETF investors aren’t HODLers—why that matters on the way down 12:23 — Unpopular take: Could BTC see $20K this cycle? Macro risks and dominance 13:23 — Tether risk: USAT pivot, correlation with BTC run-ups, and possible deleveraging 14:49 — Rotation patterns: ETH→SOL, fees/latency, and why utility chains attract institutions 18:26 — ETH outlook: EVM dominance, Solidity/Python adoption, and realistic price paths 20:24 — Throughput matters: Visa/Mastercard scale vs. network congestion realities 21:36 — Stablecoins need smart contracts: Clawbacks, directed spend, multipurpose tokens 24:20 — Why ETH ETF flows lagged: Bitcoin dominance and waiting for alt ETF rotations |25:14 — The alt ETF wave: ETH, XRP, DOGE, SOL, HBAR, LTC—SEC standardization next 26:31 — Litecoin as the cycle’s canary? Historical frontrunner and approval sequencing 27:05 — Policy tailwinds: SEC, BlackRock, MicroStrategy, and DC turning crypto-friendly 29:13 — Hype vs. utility: Trump coin, 2025 momentum, and what sticks into 2026–2027 31:03 — Real-world adoption: Why Jake sees 80–85% of the economy on-chain by 2030 32:00 — ISO 20022 and instant settlement: The “killer app” for institutional crypto 32:26 — Web3 promise: Own (and monetize) your data; digital ID right behind payments 33:19 — Digital titles, not “NFTs”: Wallet-native ownership, provenance, clawbacks34:17 — Security reality check: DeFi flash loans vs. human error and media narratives 38:39 — Making crypto safer: Institutional custody, insurance, segregation, no rehypothecation 39:20 — Counterparty risk, solved: Mirrored exposure, off-exchange settlement, atomic swaps 39:48 — Delegated value: Keep assets visible/locked while participating in pools and lending 40:18 — “Have your cake and eat it too”: Returns without DeFi risk, done in custody 40:49 — XRP at scale: A quarter-billion XRP in pool, client returns, and why stability matters 41:59 — The supply-shock thesis: How XRP could reprice, then stabilize for settlement 42:27 — Cash flow without selling: Borrowing, compounding, and tax-aware strategies 43:01 — Culture break: The “Jordans” moment crypto still needs—credible ambassadors 44:27 — Cycle parity: Bull vs. bear arguments, and what truly drives the next move 45:39 — Macro masterclass: Reverse carry trade, Japan’s rate path, oil as catalyst 47:28 — Tens of trillions in motion: Why a global unwind impacts every asset class 50:19 — The missing piece in 2024: Stablecoin bill and $2.3T treasury demand 51:01 — The domino theory: DTCC’s Project Ion, R3, and XRP as primary settlement rail 54:09 — Creator favorites: Lifestyle week-in-the-life, hair transplant travel, XRP Vegas 54:36 — Most-watched: “XRP 5-year retirement plan”—entities, exits, and infinite banking 58:27 — Jake’s CTA: BeyondBroke.com, DigitalFamilyOffice.io, DigitalWealthPartners.net

EP. 19 Bitcoin over $120K, ETF Mania & Trading Bots: Inside Crypto’s Wildest Year Yet with Aaron Dishner Aka MooninPapa

This episode, host Turpal welcomes Aaron Dishner—aka Moonin Papa—crypto YouTuber, educator, and founder of The Better Traders. From surviving the crypto winter to building automated trading bots, Aaron shares his journey through the chaos and opportunity of digital assets, trading mistakes, and the emotional rollercoaster that defines the crypto market. We dive deep into the evolution of crypto trading, why education matters, how to stay safe, and what it really takes to thrive in 2025’s wild bull run (and looming bear market). From Bitcoin pizza regrets to the realities of scams, hacks, and ETF-fueled adoption, this is a candid, practical conversation for anyone navigating Web3. Episode Breakdown * 00:00 — Meet Aaron: YouTube grind, partnerships, and daily crypto content * 01:14 — The Better Traders: Why Aaron launched it, teaching roots, and the pandemic boom * 03:21 — Crypto vs. Traditional Markets: Volatility, scams, and the unchanging fundamentals * 05:11 — Teaching Crypto: Mistakes, emotions, and the art of learning from losses * 08:30 — Aaron’s “Three Ps”: Patience, Plan, Purpose—finding your WHY in trading * 10:17 — From Penny Stocks to Bitcoin: The orange pill moment and switching to crypto * 14:31 — Bitcoin Hits $121K: Reflections on price, tech, and global impact * 15:25 — Favorite & Least Favorite Things About Bitcoin: Immutability vs. seed phrase headaches * 17:24 — Scams, Hacks & Bad Actors: Cryptopia, Mt. Gox, FTX, QuadrigaCX, and lessons learned * 20:41 — Exchange Safety: Not your keys, not your coins—how to manage risk * 23:53 — Handling Hacks: Bybit’s $1.5B loss, insurance, and stoicism in crisis * 25:54 — Tech vs. Human Error: Why most exploits are people problems * 27:14 — Media & Crypto: Mainstream skepticism, JP Morgan, and the “rat poison” meme * 29:39 — El Salvador’s Bitcoin Experiment: Mining, education, and global crypto politics * 33:08 — ETF Mania: BlackRock, Saylor, and the new era of institutional adoption * 36:51 — What Do ETFs Mean for Everyday Traders? Long-term thinking and the supply shock * 40:44 — The ETF Approval Game: SEC drama, Ethereum & XRP ETFs on the horizon * 42:05 — Explaining Crypto to Your Mom: Overcoming skepticism and making sense of mining * 44:01 — Biggest Wins & Losses: Bitcoin pizza moments and expensive lessons * 46:33 — The Fetus Stage of Crypto Trading: Why the market is still young * 47:55 — Managing Risk: DCA strategies, bots, and emotional discipline * 50:28 — Trading in Volatile Markets: Why volatility can be a gift * 53:34 — Avoiding FOMO & FUD: Caution, whales, and market manipulation * 56:20 — Why “Mooning Papa”? The story behind the name and Scandinavian trolls * 58:33 — Final Thoughts: Is now a good time to trade? Preparing for the next bear market * 01:01:24 — Taking Profits, Preserving Capital, and Buying the Dip Enjoyed the episode? Smash that Like button  Subscribe for more deep dives into crypto, trading, and Web3  Drop your questions or thoughts in the comments! Stay safe, stay curious, do your own research, and take it easy!