SUMMER LISTENING: The Royal Who Flipped The Script On Dads & The Unholy Truth About 'The Squeeze'

A Lil' Treat: Jessie’s Ready To Tell Her Twin Birth Story

She’s 10 days on. She’s splitting her time and her heart between home and hospital, and she wants to share her story with you, Outlouders.  Our beloved co-host Jessie Stephens gave birth to her boy-girl twins last week, earlier than hoped, and became a mum all over again. There will be so many of you who’ll relate to this story of terror-tinged joy, who will recognise the awe and exhaustion in Jessie’s voice, and who will want to send her so much love as she and her little family find their way through a new normal. Jessie’s rock, her twin sister Clare Stephens as well as Emily Vernem and Holly Wainwright are asking the questions:. How much time did she get “off” before the babies came? What was the first thing that happened when they did? How is Luna? How is Luca? Can she finally eat chocolate again? And how is she staying sane and hopeful? A very special episode.  SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media [https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe/?utm_source=shownotes&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=mmol]  What To Listen To Next:  * Listen to our latest episode: Mia, Female Friendships & The '3-Word' Rule' [https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/subs-female-friendship-mel-robbins] * Listen: A Reluctant Pregnancy Announcement On Live TV [https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/gwyneth-auction-meghan-sydney/] * Listen: Mia's Diary Note: What I Didn't Expect About Being A Nana [https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/subs-mia-diary-note-nana/?utm_source=shownotes&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=mmol] * Listen: Beckham, Meghan & Jessie's Hospital Voice Note [https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/beckham-meghan-jackie-o/] * Listen: How To Talk To Absolutely Anyone [https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/ghost-lashes-small-talk-tips/] * Listen: Mia Enters The 'Working Mums' Chat [https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/subs-mia-freedman-working-mums-dilemma/?utm_source=shownotes&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=mmol] * Listen: Inside The Fight That Ended Kyle & Jackie O [https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/kyle-jackie-fight/] * Listen: Love Story Part 2: Jackie O, The Kennedys & That Fight Scene [https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/subs-love-story-jackie-o-kennedys-carolyn-bessette/?utm_source=shownotes&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=mmol] * Listen: Uninvited Princesses & The Dating Story We're Yearning For [https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/andrew-scandal-royal-ascot-princesses-snub/]https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/subs-the-three-questions-you-should-ask-on-a-first/?utm_source=shownotes&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=mmol * Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts  [https://podcasts.apple.com/au/channel/mamamia/id6442502456?ign-itscg=80085&ign-itsct=pod_cha_mamam332_NA] Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here [https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/]including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud [https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/parenting-out-loud/], the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media [https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe/?utm_source=shownotes&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=mmol]  Watch Australia's #1 podcast, Mamamia Out Loud: Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/@mamamiaoutloud] What to read:  * JESSIE STEPHENS: On being pregnant with twins. As a twin. With twin brothers. [https://www.mamamia.com.au/jessie-stephens-pregnant-with-twins/] * CLARE STEPHENS: 'I did everything to avoid a traumatic birth. Then I had one.' [https://www.mamamia.com.au/clare-stephens-birth-story/] * 'I was 3 days postpartum and holding my son. Then a nurse said 5 words that broke me.' [https://www.mamamia.com.au/new-mum-postpartum-recovery/] * 'I was home alone when I went into sudden labour. I'll never forget what happened 40 minutes later.' [https://www.mamamia.com.au/sudden-labour-signs/]https://www.mamamia.com.au/clare-stephens-birth-story/ THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com [https://www.mamamiaoutloud.com.au/store] GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message [https://help.mamamia.com.au/en-US/send-a-podcast-voice-note-467960]. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders [https://www.facebook.com/groups/outlouders] to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud [https://www.instagram.com/mamamiaoutloud/?hl=en] and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud [https://www.tiktok.com/@mamamiaoutloud] Support the show: https://www.mamamia.com.au/mplus/ [https://www.mamamia.com.au/mplus/] See omnystudio.com/listener [https://omnystudio.com/listener] for privacy information.

SUBS: MAMAMIA OUT LOUD TASTER — Jessie and Clare Stephens' Weird Twin Shit Just Got Weirder

Enjoy this free bite of Mia Freedman exploring what we're (scientifically) calling 'weird twin shit' with resident Mamamia twins, Jessie (pregnant with twins) and Clare Stephens (she has news). Catch the full chaos of Jessie And Clare Stephens’ Weird Twin Shit Just Got Weirder by subscribing [https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/subs-preview-twin-intuition-jessie-clare-stephens/?utm_source=shownotes&utm_medium=message&utm_campaign=baby-bubble]. Not a subscriber yet? Honestly, why wait? [https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/subs-preview-twin-intuition-jessie-clare-stephens/?utm_source=shownotes&utm_medium=message&utm_campaign=baby-bubble] Jessie Stephens is pregnant with twins — which feels cosmically aggressive when you remember she is a twin (to Clare Stephens — keep up, people). Especially when you consider that Jessie and Clare were raised by a woman who had two sets of identical twins herself. And yes, Anne Stevens would like the universe to calm down. On this subscriber episode, Mia Freedman gets Jessie and Clare in the studio to unpack eerie twin intuition (just one example: Clare knew Jessie had two heartbeats going on in her womb before Jessie even told her), and the very real logistics of carrying two babies at once. We talk: * Why some people say “How exciting!” at the news of twins while others go instantly grey * The science vs superstition of twins having twins * Miscarriage, sibling timing, and the emotional whiplash of joy and fear * Collapsed ribs, reflux, and the indignity of sleeping upright Plus, there’s debate about birth-room access, grandparent maths, and whether 'weird twin shit' is now officially hereditary. It’s intimate. It’s chaotic. It’s extremely twin-coded. Remember, this is your free sample of Mamamia Out Loud's subs episode. Listen to the full Clare and Jessie debrief by subscribing [https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/subs-preview-twin-intuition-jessie-clare-stephens/?utm_source=shownotes&utm_medium=message&utm_campaign=baby-bubble]. What To Listen To Next:  * Listen to our latest episode: An Affair Confession Live On Air [https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/confessing-an-affair/] * Listen: The Best (And Worst) Generations Of Parents. A Leaderboard! [https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/which-generation-is-best-at-parenting/?utm_source=shownotes&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=mmol] * Listen: The Most Bizarre Celebrity Profile We’ve Ever Read [https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/bianca-censori-talks] * Listen: Do I Matter? & The Bathroom Taboo [https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/mattering-let-them-bridgerton/] * Listen: The Female Emaciation Era — Holly & Jessie Weigh In [https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/subs-celebrities-weight-loss-injections-jessie-holly/?utm_source=shownotes&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=mmol] * Listen: An Urgent Theory About Kim Kardashian & Lewis Hamilton [https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/kim-kardashian-lewis-hamilton-dating/] * Listen: Scurrilous Gossip - Karl Stefanovic, Melania Trump & Sydney Sweeney, Oh My [https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/subs-sydney-sweeney-syrn-melania-trump-doco/?utm_source=shownotes&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=mmol] * Listen: Fertility Vampires & The Murkiness Of 'Affair Baiting' [https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/margot-robbie-jacob-elordi-affair/] * https://podcasts.apple.com/au/channel/mamamia/id6442502456?ign-itscg=80085&ign-itsct=pod_cha_mamam332_NAListen: Jessie's Twins Update & What We Really Did Over The Holidays [https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/jessie-twins-holiday-update/?utm_source=shownotes&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=mmol] * Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts  [https://podcasts.apple.com/au/channel/mamamia/id6442502456?ign-itscg=80085&ign-itsct=pod_cha_mamam332_NA] Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here [https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/]including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud [https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/parenting-out-loud/], the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media [https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/subs-preview-twin-intuition-jessie-clare-stephens/?utm_source=shownotes&utm_medium=message&utm_campaign=baby-bubble]  Watch Mamamia Out Loud: Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/@mamamiaoutloud] What to read:  * JESSIE STEPHENS: On being pregnant with twins. As a twin. With twin brothers. [https://www.mamamia.com.au/jessie-stephens-pregnant-with-twins/] * "We lived 30 years as fraternal twins. Then, two weeks ago, we took a test." [https://www.mamamia.com.au/identical-twins-test/] * CLARE STEPHENS: 'The story of how I became a (very viral) meme.' [https://www.mamamia.com.au/clare-stephens-viral-meme/] * CLARE STEPHENS: A rude stranger, a note from a neighbour and the age of utter intolerance. [https://www.mamamia.com.au/rude-stranger-flight/] THE END BITS:  Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com [https://www.mamamiaoutloud.com.au/store] GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message [https://help.mamamia.com.au/en-US/send-a-podcast-voice-note-467960]. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders [https://www.facebook.com/groups/outlouders] to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud [https://www.instagram.com/mamamiaoutloud/?hl=en] and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud [https://www.tiktok.com/@mamamiaoutloud] Support the show: https://www.mamamia.com.au/mplus/ [https://www.mamamia.com.au/mplus/] See omnystudio.com/listener [https://omnystudio.com/listener] for privacy information.

SUMMER LISTENING: Picnic Table Politics & The Era Of Tiny Spies

This summer we've curated your Baby Bubble playlist with a healthy dose of culture-savvy conversation parents actually want - Parenting Out Loud.  Parenting can involve big ideas, public debates and the odd festive guilt trip - and this week, we’re tackling all three. The man who created Adolescence has a new idea for how dads can connect with their sons - it’s beautiful, but one of us hates it. Plus, Amelia dives into the kids party photo that’s divided Australia: can you really “bags” a park table? And finally, it’s Elf O’Clock. Monz realises she’s the last mum on earth without a tiny spy living in her house, and wonders aloud if there are some traditions that should just be left alone. Our recommendations:  💄Stacey recommends you treat yourself to a $150 Mecca makeup lesson [https://fave.co/47fSwR3] (redeemable on product) where you learn game-changing tips. ❤️‍🩹 Monz wants you to check out A Year of Healing [https://ayearofhealing.substack.com/p/so-your-friends-been-diagnosed-with] by Lucy Ormonde on Substack, a brilliant guide to showing up for a friend going through cancer. ⏰ Amelia is recommending Dr Dan Shapiro’s idea of time-ins: [https://guidingexceptionalparents.com/how-to-use-time-in-to-improve-your-childs-challenging-behaviors/] five minutes of phone-free, one-on-one time fully led by your child. Support independent women's media [https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe/?utm_source=shownotes&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=mmol] Want more Parenting Out Loud? Click here.  [https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/parenting-out-loud/] WHAT TO READ:  * So your friend's been diagnosed with breast cancer. Here's how you can help. [https://ayearofhealing.substack.com/p/so-your-friends-been-diagnosed-with] * No Elf on the Shelf or Santa photos: The 6 Christmas traditions I'm cancelling this year. [https://www.mamamia.com.au/worst-christmas-traditions/] * 'My daughter found out the Elf on the Shelf isn't real because of an article I wrote.' [https://www.mamamia.com.au/elf-on-the-shelf-ruined/] * There's one question we're all asking since watching Adolescence. An expert just answered it. [https://www.mamamia.com.au/netflix-adolescence-incel-ideology-boys/] * 'As a mum of teen boys, Adolescence was a sobering watch.' [https://www.mamamia.com.au/adolescence-mum-of-teens/] * 'I had breast cancer and I'd love for my story to scare the s**t out of you.' [https://www.mamamia.com.au/lucy-ormonde-breast-cancer-story/] THE END BITS:  Mamamia studios are styled with furniture from Fenton and Fenton  [https://www.fentonandfenton.com.au/] GET IN TOUCH: Share your feedback! Send us a voice message [https://help.mamamia.com.au/en-US/send-a-podcast-voice-note-467960] or email us at podcast@mamamia.com.au  Join our Facebook group Mamamia Family [https://www.facebook.com/groups/1047713658714395] to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamia_family [https://www.instagram.com/mamamia_family/?hl=en] CREDITS: Hosts: Monique Bowley, Stacey Hicks & Amelia Lester Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine Executive Producer: Sasha Tannock Senior/Audio Producer: Leah Porges Junior Content Producer: Tessa Kotowicz Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Support the show: https://www.mamamia.com.au/mplus/ [https://www.mamamia.com.au/mplus/] See omnystudio.com/listener [https://omnystudio.com/listener] for privacy information.

SUMMER LISTENING: The Scariest Truth About Halloween & A Nepo Baby Debate

This summer we've curated your Baby Bubble playlist with a healthy dose of culture-savvy conversation parents actually want - Parenting Out Loud.  Spooky season is just about to hit and we’re asking: what’s the point of Halloween, anyway? And are Australians missing one crucial trick about it that could change... everything? Monz unpacks. Then, Amelia makes a bold claim — some nepo babies are better than others. But why do some rise while others flop, even within the same famous family? And in a twist no one saw coming, Hailey Bieber just became our accidental parenting guru. Yep, that wasn't on our bingo card for 2025 either. Stacey has feelings. Big feelings.  Grab your headphones and join the conversation.  Our recommendations: 🎨 Stacey is a fan of the Hey Doodle [https://fave.co/4nS4VBM] drawing mats for the creative kiddos AND the podcast She Built That. [https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/how-to-build-a-human/] 🌌 Amelia loves the app Stellarium [https://fave.co/43dHCdo], for all your stargazing needs.  📕 And Monz wants you to read 'the best children's book ever'. Hunwick's Egg [https://fave.co/48npf9w] by Mem Fox.   Support independent women's media [https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe/?utm_source=shownotes&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=mmol] Want more Parenting Out Loud? Click here.  [https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/parenting-out-loud/] WHAT TO READ:  * From Double Nepo to Semi-Nepo: The nepo baby universe has expanded. [https://www.mamamia.com.au/types-of-nepo-baby/] * The rise of the nepo babies 2.0. [https://www.mamamia.com.au/vivienne-jolie-pitt-assistant/] * Victoria Beckham shared her makeup 'rules' for Harper. Here's what 7 mums had to say about theirs. [https://www.mamamia.com.au/harper-beckham-make-up-rules/] * 13 whimsical and spooky Halloween movies for cowards. [https://www.mamamia.com.au/not-scary-halloween-movies-for-families/] * The Hailey Bieber 'documentary' everyone’s talking about, and everything that happened since. [https://www.mamamia.com.au/hailey-bieber-7-part-series/] THE END BITS:  Mamamia studios are styled with furniture from Fenton and Fenton  [https://www.fentonandfenton.com.au/] GET IN TOUCH: Share your feedback! Send us a voice message [https://help.mamamia.com.au/en-US/send-a-podcast-voice-note-467960] or email us at podcast@mamamia.com.au  Join our Facebook group Mamamia Family [https://www.facebook.com/groups/1047713658714395] to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamia_family [https://www.instagram.com/mamamia_family/?hl=en] CREDITS: Hosts: Monique Bowley, Stacey Hicks & Amelia Lester Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine Executive Producer: Sasha Tannock Senior/Audio Producer: Leah Porges Junior Content Producer: Tessa Kotowicz Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Support the show: https://www.mamamia.com.au/mplus/ [https://www.mamamia.com.au/mplus/] See omnystudio.com/listener [https://omnystudio.com/listener] for privacy information.

SUMMER LISTENING: The Royal Who Flipped The Script On Dads & The Unholy Truth About 'The Squeeze'

This summer we've curated your Baby Bubble playlist with a healthy dose of culture-savvy conversation parents actually want - Parenting Out Loud.  Are you feeling ‘The Squeeze’?  The daily chaos of modern parenting is real. We unpack why you’re feeling maxed out and overwhelmed and talk about whether there’s actually anything you can do about it. Plus, are you raising readers or just scrollers? And in today’s digital world, is it even important? We discuss whether it’s possible to get over your scrolling addiction and get you (and your kids) back into books. And, the dads are in their feelings this week, and we’re here for it. George Clooney reflects on the sacrifices he’s made for success, while Prince William reveals how even Royal dads can feel overwhelmed when it comes to raising tiny humans. Our recommendations: 💄 Stacey is recommending the Nyx Fat Oil Lip Drip [https://fave.co/3KZZz8W] in the shade Newsfeed to achieve her iconic lip look.  🪨 Amelia is recommending Rock Painting [https://fave.co/3VWJfZa], and now we all know what we're getting in the office Kris Kringle this year. 🎧 And Monz wants you to listen to the Paul Field episode of the podcast Conversations [https://www.abc.net.au/listen/programs/conversations/paul-field-sids-wiggles-bernadette/105819172], for his deeply moving, heartfelt story. A trigger warning for anyone who has experienced the loss of a child. Support independent women's media [https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe/?utm_source=shownotes&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=mmol] Want more Parenting Out Loud? Click here.  [https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/parenting-out-loud/] WHAT TO READ:  * Prince William just gave his most candid interview. One comment lands like a message to his brother. [https://www.mamamia.com.au/prince-william-eugene-levy-interview/] * 'My life changed.' A look into George Clooney's family life with 7-year-old twins. [https://www.mamamia.com.au/george-clooney-amal/] * 'I'm a new mum who read 60 books last year. This is how I actually did it.' [https://www.mamamia.com.au/60-books-in-a-year] * 'I was reading bedtime stories with a glass of wine. A question from my son stopped me in my tracks.' [https://www.mamamia.com.au/mum-drinking/] * 'No one is reading bedtime stories to their kids anymore and I know exactly why.' [https://www.mamamia.com.au/parents-reading-aloud-decline/] THE END BITS:  Mamamia studios are styled with furniture from Fenton and Fenton  [https://www.fentonandfenton.com.au/] GET IN TOUCH: Share your feedback! Send us a voice message [https://help.mamamia.com.au/en-US/send-a-podcast-voice-note-467960] or email us at podcast@mamamia.com.au  Join our Facebook group Mamamia Family [https://www.facebook.com/groups/1047713658714395] to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamia_family [https://www.instagram.com/mamamia_family/?hl=en] CREDITS: Hosts: Monique Bowley, Stacey Hicks & Amelia Lester Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine Executive Producer: Sasha Tannock Senior/Audio Producer: Leah Porges Junior Content Producer: Tessa Kotowicz Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Support the show: https://www.mamamia.com.au/mplus/ [https://www.mamamia.com.au/mplus/] See omnystudio.com/listener [https://omnystudio.com/listener] for privacy information.