The DTC Revenue Rocket
Aaron Schwartz — Co-Founder & Co-CEO of Orita, former President of Loop Returns, and co-founder of Passport Shipping — joins Zak to challenge everything you think you know about email marketing. Most brands are so focused on converting attention that they've completely forgotten how to capture it. The result is over-emailed lists, tanking deliverability, and customers who've quietly tuned you out. Aaron breaks down why rules-based segmentation is failing brands at scale, how Gmail's ML engineers are working against every sender by default, and why Orita's AI-driven approach to stack-ranking your list daily is the thing retention marketers didn't know they needed. They also get into the AI hype — what's real, what's dangerous, and why getting a great first draft fast might actually be limiting your best ideas. Plus: what the best DTC operators have in common, where direct mail and connected TV are headed, and what's next for Orita. A must-listen for e-commerce brands, retention marketers, and anyone building or working in the Klaviyo ecosystem.
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