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Leaders Aren't Ready for What AI Is Bringing, with Pierre Naggar

44 min · 25. maj 2026
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"Leaders are not ready for what AI is going to bring." That's how Pierre Naggar opens this conversation. And it lands hard.   Pierre Naggar is the founder of BrightPro and spent almost 30 years in digital marketing and advertising tech before moving into AI automation.   In this episode, we get into what's actually going on inside companies trying to adopt AI, and where it tends to come unstuck.   We cover: * Why most CEOs still hand AI to the CTO or the IT team, and what that quietly costs them * The case for a Chief AI Officer * AI readiness and data readiness, including projects Pierre walked away from because the data wasn't there yet * The cost trap when a prototype moves into production, and why model drift quietly eats your ROI * AI is coming for the jobs you should never have been doing in the first place   The important bit: AI adoption isn't transformation. Pilots and Copilot rollouts don't count for much until the operating model itself starts to shift.   If you're a senior leader trying to work out whether your AI activity is actually going somewhere, this one's worth a listen.   Connect with Pierre: Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pierre-naggar/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/pierre-naggar/] Website: https://www.brightpro.ai [https://www.brightpro.ai] Email: pierre.naggar@brightpro.ai [pierre.naggar@brightpro.ai]   Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction to AI Leadership 01:46 Pierre Naggar's Background and Experience 02:34 The Birth of BrightPro and AI Opportunities 04:24 Personal Journey with AI Tools 08:21 Practical Implementation of AI in Organizations 13:40 The Role of Chief AI Officer 18:34 Governance and Accountability in AI Implementation 24:23 AI Adoption: The Current Landscape 30:28 Leadership and Organizational Readiness for AI 38:07 The Future of AI: Opportunities and Challenges 43:42 Outro   Book Referenced: The Profitable AI Advantage by Tobias Zwingmann [https://amzn.to/4wBRESM]   Get your copy of the Multiply Method ✖️ It's a FREE roadmap walking you through how to multiply the capabilities of your people and your business with AI. www.theaileaderlab.com/roadmap [http://www.theaileaderlab.com/roadmap]   Connect with Martin: Websites: www.theaileaderlab.com [http://www.theaileaderlab.com] LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/martinjwheatley [http://www.linkedin.com/in/martinjwheatley]   Subscribe to The Frontier Leader Show wherever you listen to podcasts.

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