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Peter and Eden run through a rapid-fire list of pop culture hot takes covering movies, TV, music, books, and games. The Star Wars watch order debate kicks things off (original trilogy only for Peter, release order for Eden), Eden defends Batman & Robin and F-Boy Island as unironically great, both agree the Beatles are played out, and they end on a shared appreciation for Alpha Centauri as the peak of the Civilization franchise. Show Notes What Eden's Been Into * K-pop roundup: LE SSERAFIM [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Sserafim]'s new album, aespa [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemonade_(Aespa_album)]'s Lemonade LP, and ITZY [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motto_(EP)]'s Motto EP (featuring solo tracks from each member) * Reading: The web novel Long Awaited Feelings [https://www.novelupdates.com/series/my-feelings-can-wait/] (1,900 pages about a woman who time-travels after her death) and rereading How Do We Relationship? [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_Do_We_Relationship%3F] (completed 14-volume yuri romance manga — "the best romance comic I've ever read") * Games: Finished PowerWash Simulator [https://store.steampowered.com/app/4229450/PowerWash_Simulator_2__STAR_WARS_Pack/] (excited for the Star Wars DLC), played Loddlenaut (cute 5-hour pixel-art ocean cleanup game), and the Wuthering Waves x Cyberpunk: Edgerunners [https://wutheringwaves.kurogames.com/en/main/news/detail/4739] crossover event What Peter's Been Into * Diablo 4: Finished the Vessel of Hatred campaign as a Warlock ("killing demons by summoning your own demons is a good time") * Reading: 82% through Anji Kills a King [https://torpublishinggroup.com/anji-kills-a-king/] by Evan Leikam (BookTuber debut from Tor) — enjoying it but struggling with the prickly protagonist * Music: New Khemmis [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khemmis_(band)] self-titled album (Denver doom metal), Cult of Luna [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_of_Luna]'s new single "In the Shadow of Your Shadow" (album out November), and The Ocean [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ocean_(band)]'s "Light Pollution" from upcoming Solaris — allaying fears after the post-Holocene lineup change Hot Takes — Movies * Star Wars watch order: Peter says 4, 5, 6 + maybe Rogue One, skip everything else. Eden says release order (4, 5, 6, 1, 2, 3, Rogue One) to preserve cultural/historical context * Eden defends Batman & Robin [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman_Forever]: "It's the second best Batman movie. George Clooney's a bad Batman, he's got nipples on the Batsuit, he's got the Bat credit card — it's great." * Eden declares Saving Private Ryan [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saving_Private_Ryan] a bad movie to the horror of everyone at the comic book shop * Best Pixar: Eden picks Ratatouille [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratatouille_(film)] (doesn't like most Pixar). Peter picks The Incredibles [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Incredibles_(2004_film)] * Correct max runtime: 90 minutes (Eden) vs 120 minutes (Peter) — anything longer needs to earn it * Sequel that's better: Peter says Captain America: Winter Soldier > First Avenger. Eden says Tokyo Drift is the best Fast & Furious movie * Citizen Kane [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizen_Kane]: Eden concedes it's the rare masterpiece that actually earns its reputation — a bunch of first-time filmmakers who didn't know the rules Hot Takes — TV * Shows that stayed too long: The Simpsons (Peter). Nearly every comedy past season 3 (Eden) * Best series finale: M*A*S*H's "Goodbye, Farewell and Amen" [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodbye,_Farewell_and_Amen] and Babylon 5 [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0517691/] (Eden). Brooklyn 99 (Peter) * Worst series finale: Battlestar Galactica [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battlestar_Galactica_(2004_TV_series)] (new) — "the most incomprehensible finale you'll ever watch" (Eden). Seinfeld (Peter) * Reality TV worth defending: F-Boy Island [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FBoy_Island] — 24 guys, half are "nice guys" and half are fuckboys, the women pick, and the fuckboys can steal the $100k at the end. Nice guys get a villa; fuckboys get a literal prison camp on the beach * Adult animation vs prestige drama: Eden says Bob's Burgers [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob%27s_Burgers] is the only good adult animation show right now. Prestige TV is in a nadir of expensive Game of Thrones clones Hot Takes — Music * Never need to hear again: The entire Beatles discography (both agree) * Best decade by genre: 80s for rock/pop, 90s for alt, aughts for indie, right now for K-pop (Eden). 2010s for metal — the genre found its stride again after a grim 90s (Peter) * Bands that should have stopped: Dream Theater after Awake (Eden). Opeth's last 15 years are all misses (Eden). Peter agrees on both * Greatest live album: Rush — Exit...Stage Left [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exit...Stage_Left] (Peter). The Bang on a Can recording [https://bangonacan.bandcamp.com/album/terry-riley-in-c] of Terry Riley's In C (Eden — "the finest version I've ever seen") * Albums > playlists: Both firmly team albums. Eden has a 16-hour "K-pop Brain Rot" playlist for shuffling, but that's the exception Hot Takes — Books * Audiobooks = reading? Leans yes from both, but acknowledges the research is contradictory (small sample sizes, brain scan studies on both sides) * E-readers vs physical: Peter goes digital 9 times out of 10 (lighter, portable, side-lit). Eden does physical for comics, e-books for prose (form factor matters less for text, but hates reading comics on a screen) Hot Takes — Games * Favorite game of all time: Mass Effect 2 [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_Effect_2] (Peter — tighter gameplay than ME1, loyalty missions, assembling the crew). Doom (1993) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doom_(1993_video_game)] (Eden — infinitely replayable with new WADs [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doom_modding] every day, nothing feels as fluid) * Best console generation: Xbox 360 / PS3 era (both) — Halo 3 LAN parties, Gears of War couch co-op, Mass Effect, Dragon Age, Fallout 3/NV, Viva Piñata, and yes, Sneak King * Open world vs linear: Both prefer a tight 20-hour experience over a 100-hour open world * Franchise that peaked early: Age of Empires II [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Emires_II] (Peter — nothing since comes close). And Eden's shitpost answer of the day: Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sid_Meier%27s_Alpha_Centauri] is better than every Civilization game that came...
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