The Product Leader's Edge Podcast

Ep 4: Product Market Fit Isn't What You Think, Part I: From Customer Discovery to MVP

33 min · 20. apr. 2026
episode Ep 4: Product Market Fit Isn't What You Think, Part I: From Customer Discovery to MVP cover

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Episode Description Product-market fit is one of the most talked about concepts in product—but one of the least understood. In Part 1 of this series, KJ breaks down how product-market fit actually begins—starting with customer discovery, market understanding, and early MVP experimentation. Before growth and traction, it all comes down to one thing: Understanding. What You’ll Learn * Why product-market fit is often misunderstood * How to approach customer discovery and market research * What an MVP really is (and isn’t) * Why your “why” matters when building something new Next Episode Part 2 explores how to recognize, strengthen, and scale product-market fit over time. Final Thought Product-market fit doesn’t start with growth. It starts with understanding. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit solostarbykjg.substack.com [https://solostarbykjg.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1]

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episode Ep 10: Building Stursi: How Lexx Mills Is Redefining the Non-Alcoholic Cocktail Industry artwork

Ep 10: Building Stursi: How Lexx Mills Is Redefining the Non-Alcoholic Cocktail Industry

In this episode of The Product Leader’s Edge, KJ Green sits down with Alexandra “Lexx” Mills, Founder & CEO of Stursi, to explore what it really takes to build a premium consumer brand from the ground up. From navigating a trademark rebrand to creating an award-winning non-alcoholic cocktail company, Lexx shares the realities of entrepreneurship, product development, branding, fundraising, and building with intention. Together, they discuss: * The origin story behind Stursi * Why the company rebranded from Revel to Stursi * Building a premium product in a crowded market * Brand strategy, storytelling, and authenticity * Lessons on entrepreneurship, leadership, and resilience * The future of the non-alcoholic beverage industry Whether you’re building a startup, launching a product, or simply looking for inspiration, this conversation is packed with practical insights for builders. Connect with Stursi 🌐 Website: [Add Stursi Website] 🛒 Shop Stursi: [Add Product Link] 📸 Instagram: [Add Instagram] 💼 LinkedIn: [Add LinkedIn] Connect with KJ Green 📬 Newsletter: [Solo Star Newsletter] 🎙️ The Product Leader’s Edge: [Podcast Links] 💼 LinkedIn: [LinkedIn] 📺 YouTube: [YouTube] This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit solostarbykjg.substack.com [https://solostarbykjg.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1]

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episode Ep 9: Why Does the Product Leader's Edge Exist artwork

Ep 9: Why Does the Product Leader's Edge Exist

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episode Ep 8 : Climbing the Stack: Building Across Product, Cloud, AI, and Life artwork

Ep 8 : Climbing the Stack: Building Across Product, Cloud, AI, and Life

Episode 8: Climbing the Stack: Building Across Product, Cloud, AI, and Life In this solo episode of The Product Leader’s Edge, KJ reflects on the first half of Season 1 and explores the foundational systems shaping modern technology and product leadership. From cloud computing and AI to product strategy and personal growth, KJ breaks down the frameworks that have influenced his journey as a product leader, builder, and lifelong learner. Topics include: • The Core Four of Cloud: Compute, Storage, Networking, and Security • The Core Four of Product Leadership: Customer Understanding, Strategy, Execution, and Business Outcomes • The Core Four of AI: Models, Data, Infrastructure, and Applications • Why product leaders are being forced to “climb the stack” in the age of AI • Lessons from training for a Spartan Race and preparing for HYROX • Reflections on pursuing the AWS Solutions Architect Associate certification • Serverless vs. traditional cloud architectures and what product leaders should understand about both • Why security, data, and systems thinking are becoming leadership skills As AI continues to reshape the technology landscape, understanding how systems connect—from customers to infrastructure—has never been more important. Subscribe to The Product Leader’s Edge on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and wherever you listen to podcasts. Follow KJ Green: Newsletter: Inside Solo Star (Substack) [https://substack.com/@insidesolostar?r=1qt91e&utm_campaign=profile&utm_medium=profile-page] LinkedIn: KJ Green [https://www.linkedin.com/in/karonjgreen/] Medium: The Product Leader’s Edge [https://medium.com/@karongre/climbing-the-stack-the-core-four-for-designing-modern-technology-6189e3c5d275] This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit solostarbykjg.substack.com [https://solostarbykjg.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1]

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episode Ep 7: Storytelling, Excellence, and Mastery in the Age of AI with Andre Ray artwork

Ep 7: Storytelling, Excellence, and Mastery in the Age of AI with Andre Ray

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episode Ep 6: Rethinking Go-To-Market Strategies in the Age of AI with Miriam Odabe artwork

Ep 6: Rethinking Go-To-Market Strategies in the Age of AI with Miriam Odabe

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