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When Money Moves Itself: Agentic Payments and the Future of Cross-Border Finance (Pritpal Shokar)

43 min · 23. juni 2026
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In this episode, we're joined by Pritpal Shokar, Head of Product for Digital Assets at Thunes, to explore what it really takes to build stablecoin infrastructure at a global scale. We dig into how digital money is evolving across borders, why stablecoins and e-money aren't as interchangeable as they seem, and where tokenized deposits fit into the picture. From liquidity challenges in cross-border payments to the UK's shifting regulatory landscape, we examine the friction points that still define international finance, and how programmable money could eliminate them. We also look ahead to the emerging world of agentic payments, where AI-driven transactions demand new thinking around trust, oversight, and the role of the treasurer. Follow Stablecoin Partners: - Stablecoin Partners: https://www.stablecoinpartners.com/ - StableCheck: https://www.stablecoinstandard.com/stablecheck Thunes: - Website: https://www.thunes.com/ - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/thunespayments/ - Pritpal: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pritpal-shokar/ Presented in partnership with Nephos Group [https://www.nephosgroup.com/] Proud sponsors of the Stablecoin Standard Podcast, Nephos Group is the specialist accountancy and advisory firm for stablecoin issuers. From proof of reserves and attestations to stablecoin accounting and compliance support, they help digital asset businesses build the financial rigour that institutional adoption demands. Learn more at nephosgroup.com.

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When Money Moves Itself: Agentic Payments and the Future of Cross-Border Finance (Pritpal Shokar)

In this episode, we're joined by Pritpal Shokar, Head of Product for Digital Assets at Thunes, to explore what it really takes to build stablecoin infrastructure at a global scale. We dig into how digital money is evolving across borders, why stablecoins and e-money aren't as interchangeable as they seem, and where tokenized deposits fit into the picture. From liquidity challenges in cross-border payments to the UK's shifting regulatory landscape, we examine the friction points that still define international finance, and how programmable money could eliminate them. We also look ahead to the emerging world of agentic payments, where AI-driven transactions demand new thinking around trust, oversight, and the role of the treasurer. Follow Stablecoin Partners: - Stablecoin Partners: https://www.stablecoinpartners.com/ - StableCheck: https://www.stablecoinstandard.com/stablecheck Thunes: - Website: https://www.thunes.com/ - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/thunespayments/ - Pritpal: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pritpal-shokar/ Presented in partnership with Nephos Group [https://www.nephosgroup.com/] Proud sponsors of the Stablecoin Standard Podcast, Nephos Group is the specialist accountancy and advisory firm for stablecoin issuers. From proof of reserves and attestations to stablecoin accounting and compliance support, they help digital asset businesses build the financial rigour that institutional adoption demands. Learn more at nephosgroup.com.

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