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Against Apathy

1 h 8 min · 3. okt. 2025
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In this conversation, Lee and Matthew explore the themes of apathy, nihilism, and the complexities of professional identity within the design industry. They discuss the challenges designers face in client relationships, the importance of trust and expertise, and the ongoing journey of self-discovery. The dialogue emphasizes the need for empathy, collaboration, and authenticity in design, while also reflecting on the search for meaning and fulfillment in work.

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