Replay: Kate DiCamillo Is Going the Wrong Way

Mini-Bonus: About That Book List / Summertime Reads

Surprise! It's a mini-episode all about that book list from Instagram called Books I'd Hand to You in the Summertime. You can find the list here [https://www.instagram.com/p/DZszg_Ell-e/?img_index=1]. Today I'll highlight four titles from that list, plus a fifth from the honorable mentions. All titles are linked below--hope you enjoy and happy reading! This Book Made Me Think of You [https://www.amazon.com/This-Book-Made-Think-You-ebook/dp/B0F7FSGBMN/ref=sr_1_1?crid=309WOTP2RCK3L&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.tTfrNfX4cTLkvhR6Ck_oE9oKDo_TdXK5k2srfANCCQvM1uB_FLkJTLCrgD_2p19QsmL9U8U9VoBO0IVoZlJvGaZRvDtQyjmJVxg3isDrEDFIz0akXcbWoU_EwjSJCRw2gOXwA938OJaGmRF1U08anNGsCiR4-bm76mqJAnOIEjTEA5pk90Qki4Ht4C1r_E-IrY7C0LVnrFBS0h6qP9fWmUwsDmxnAIQxqoeCqTp5cmw.paxcfuzKVPZ1DBeE0tjEl9EvnEdmXQc2Xln8-i6bWTk&dib_tag=se&keywords=this+book+made+me+think+of+you+libby+page&nsdOptOutParam=true&qid=1781811486&sprefix=this+boo%2Caps%2C163&sr=8-1], Libby Page Sea Wife [https://www.amazon.com/Sea-Wife-novel-Amity-Gaige-ebook/dp/B07X2BNH7V/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3M0TON9CVE8FH&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.C0vVXwEtQM92BUg-Kzp8LKduXYDWA7-Fw1IoPK9YddZ-xbDkeUmb1ArKKbf0K1T6.iXrXrtaiIxwL5Tcuowv3Xx9sB31UHGiIRpP1afnFahA&dib_tag=se&keywords=sea+wife+amity+gaige&qid=1781811509&sprefix=sea+wife+ami%2Caps%2C163&sr=8-1], Amity Gaige (note I reference the WRONG Emma M. Lion volume in this portion--I meant to say book 8! Ack--don't send the villagers for me--I only wish I had early access to 9!) Strangers [https://www.amazon.com/Strangers-Memoir-Marriage-Belle-Burden-ebook/dp/B0F3WTJ9V2/ref=sr_1_1?crid=A5OZWID4EDQQ&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Jq9rpSTxvGy0O5yjs4lizdh6M2XlxOOe2BYtI-WH2wAAEUtXqeLC1ucSwPiZuL4s_TMol3yHl3jOB5veA8vfJmJivEiFNGzediCmAcXAVwyVrX-W_gkEszGW8x5ZKiXcNfRFASNmatmz-fUZBed0sorefvQBQG7LUwTu6gm4PuCO7azVVq5Dm8cLfn9-coHZGPR09X49p_WJBuYQBq3znfxIlOg860r5mXusfi_wINM.sqzgcdm7M9ag8p6yFt3gbJmaGqTHRP25sYmwHmqmCsc&dib_tag=se&keywords=strangers+belle+burden&qid=1781811536&sprefix=strangers+belle%2Caps%2C177&sr=8-1], Belle Burden The Shell Seekers [https://www.amazon.com/Shell-Seekers-Rosamunde-Pilcher-ebook/dp/B00BIV49FC/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1WP4OXG0WKR5W&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.L9TW-OegYBxjBDll4MQIpmFqGZDWctp5zwC4hoklu-3d3OxTu45d22TsBn8TQgYwoT8nC-G3wNYNIFa4iG29zYQhc7GiLyC3iLKWloUoI52KSc6VaPV4j7XXEZBwnHPb9lwdh9_MDVyy5bT8w1RVFprHJ3ztuEBOSGji7IjhOjBqHix3w3JvB8XNVMzS8j-9jROz2Yc-9_lddm15c9hefrHAakUo406X_qV4g11A57Y.EVKAzD3pXDiTIlAZtmWKwdRx8b3v4J1GPkRNJJXNsbI&dib_tag=se&keywords=the+shell+seekers+by+rosamunde+pilcher&qid=1781811558&sprefix=the+shell+see%2Caps%2C164&sr=8-1], Rosamunde Pilcher The House on Mango Street [https://www.amazon.com/House-Mango-Street-Sandra-Cisneros/dp/0679734775/ref=sr_1_1?crid=DLI4OBQB0XCD&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.AjLVazzDsj2xiWIQO1_IBt_nJWfP_PLZHvAJXuHISLnYYhQ4QsJW-IxbBtkevAPhSaXRVLVaDu2mrIce1oCW5gk0jTTKQPiYfRBA1RGn34f5NMJoGnld7Df068haJfHkbHH00_IwEgsswB4dVcelWIlcguwVYhaf0c9ZnohhQqg9dj0llzSDxbmw2neYF9l6FCsiwMcYkPYA92OxkMfUURFyG280DMHA9CgAdYdl6lk.gb8S_z1voB-GsCrKAxkjy7Fkuu1hbtMBl_yPV_LR9oo&dib_tag=se&keywords=the+house+on+mango+street+by+sandra+cisneros&nsdOptOutParam=true&qid=1781811583&sprefix=the+house+on+mango%2Caps%2C164&sr=8-1], Sandra Cisneros Music for Unseriously was composed and produced by Adam Wright, founder of ⁠⁠The Corner Room⁠⁠ [https://www.cornerroommusic.com/], a ministry that sets the Bible to music as a tool for memorization and meditation. You can follow The Corner Room on ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠ [https://www.instagram.com/cornerroommusic/]. Find podcast news, behind the scenes, and all things Unseriously ⁠⁠@hollymacklebooks⁠⁠ [https://www.instagram.com/hollymacklebooks/]. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy [https://art19.com/privacy] and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info [https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info].

Replay: Kate DiCamillo Is Going the Wrong Way

It's an Unseriously replay with our very own carnival queen, two-time Newbery medalist Kate DiCamillo, who joins Holly for a pinch-me-I'm-dreaming interview covering everything from Epcot Center to shredded wheat to inciting kids to troll Chris Van Dusen. There may be a quote-off. If you're friends with Holly in real life, she would like it noted that she arrived earlier than Kate to the interview, a fact which has now become one of the proudest moments of her life. The name you'll be shouting at this interview is BEN STEIN. Don't miss Sophie Blackall's Farmhouse [https://www.amazon.com/dp/0316528943/?bestFormat=true&k=farmhouse%20sophie%20blackall&ref_=nb_sb_ss_w_scx-ent-pd-bk-d_k0_1_16_de&crid=1VJXARQ6SLSLJ&sprefix=farmhouse%20sophie] for anyone in your life, not just littles, Amanda Cleary Eastep's Instagram is @book_leaves [https://www.instagram.com/book_leaves/], and this [https://www.amazon.com/dp/0061992275/?bestFormat=true&k=the%20one%20and%20only%20ivan&ref_=nb_sb_ss_w_scx-ent-pd-bk-d_k0_1_14_de&crid=17PXR2T0RZS15&sprefix=the%20one%20and%20on] is a Katherine Applegate book. Here's [https://www.amazon.com/Just-Like-Beverly-Biography-Greatness/dp/1632172224/ref=sr_1_1?crid=UXSUC98C82YO&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.HgDItIRbAT9Kwv2-4R-gon511uyOQmnkgxf9HYBjI-Z0bGHYuhUPKGdrFJbuXB_zy21IoiY7FgE0KI0P2qDiwj5FXEUOX07FUU8g6Ejd7SLMnRWmxfTzkdkxy5qr5aMfy0apMC0y2ljnvptMY4ZCsyIsP0Nc5L33HYFYt0QrnWU9inT9E-BBWqpboX6e9hsNND_TB6rzdXy-6H3Y-0tJyCiUDSSpQLwEd_aakdPh-MI.5wZ-3-UhvIXNxEHW6oLaa5My1plE53ZdfXjbl_96BQY&dib_tag=se&keywords=just+like+beverly&qid=1762073460&s=books&sprefix=just+like+beverly%2Cstripbooks%2C95&sr=1-1] the Beverly Cleary nonfiction picture book they discuss. Read a Kate DiCamillo. Hug your people. Write back. Kate's magnificent title Because of Winn-Dixie [https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/808873/because-of-winn-dixie-deluxe-25th-anniversary-edition-by-kate-dicamillo/] celebrates 25 years in print this year, plus she's got a new addition to The Norendy Tales called Lost Evangeline [https://www.amazon.com/dp/1536225525/?bestFormat=true&k=lost%20evangeline&ref_=nb_sb_ss_w_scx-ent-pd-bk-d_k0_1_11_de&crid=3TOBSKEO44O9W&sprefix=lost%20evange], with Sophie Blackall illustrating. This [https://www.amazon.com/Ferris-Heartfelt-Middle-Grade-Coming-Age/dp/1536241865/ref=sr_1_1?crid=34KXXF3AJOJ5L&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.nML91rmALg-NdEHLaMVO-mgnwadaJl2EO_cV7GWV2-gB2Lh4jbhV-Tu2pRzejjtwPy_UrS2lQdfJ-_V13EL2DFqNiCOd6g6rPfTZj0t-tsNg9NIGzUJGA3968m_ZjyIc6ZiYJoMgWndYJ9kAwCEY-oVRsU-1PVbvq2uTOw3ARInT9VdgV_0RFGY9VCmWeX0afhrB-RdIqDYQb1aPM7GKMKn1R0FY7z1INOibAI7pqpo.warBSdkk5Ak5U_8S2g6XwOdAlf-SRqGn2TDuV9uoVxM&dib_tag=se&keywords=ferris&qid=1762073871&s=books&sprefix=ferris%2Cstripbooks%2C100&sr=1-1] is Holly's favorite Kate DiCamillo title, perfect to tuck into a stocking this year. Hope you're enjoying these replays of two of our favorite Kates while the pod is on break--next week it's Kate Strickler of the Naptime Kitchen--see you back July 6th for all new episodes! Music for Unseriously was composed by Adam Wright of ⁠The Corner Room⁠ [https://www.cornerroommusic.com/], a ministry that sets Scripture to music as a tool for meditation and memorization. His latest Christmas project, ⁠Light Has Shone⁠ [https://open.spotify.com/track/5XltkoB93RYiBJc1HiqcGH], is a beautiful journey through five Advent passages that point us to Jesus, the true light of the world. You can listen on Spotify, Apple Music, or wherever you listen to music.  Find podcast news, behind the scenes, and all things Unseriously ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@hollymacklebooks⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.instagram.com/hollymacklebooks/]. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy [https://art19.com/privacy] and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info [https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info].

Sarah Walton and Kristen Wetherell Can Offer You Plain Chicken and Sadness

If that jokes makes zero sense...no worries, because we will tap back to it at least 4 times during the course of this fun episode with Sarah Walton and Kristen Wetherell, co-authors of the new book, Jesus Will Meet You There [https://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Will-Meet-You-There-ebook/dp/B0FWB5CSFN/ref=sr_1_1?crid=33RELJ53QF117&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.EqY94eYchAdzd2G5ZAwJDcvKPfxxg-4rSlq5W2ugfa8.O-SkUGVw_gTqLtkd0HPzJq7u3I2jRtN_nQh_CEvXzxU&dib_tag=se&keywords=jesus+will+meet+you+there+by+kristen+wetherell+%26+sarah+walton&nsdOptOutParam=true&qid=1781190373&sprefix=jesus+will+meet+you+there%2Caps%2C161&sr=8-1]. Kristen and Sarah will entertain Holly with their unconquerable Chicago accent, tell her all about their worst non-metaphorical messes, and teach us all how to updone the downtown. They'll compare notes on being concert grannies, getting eyebrow tats, and how all the writing pals seem to be married to husbands who bear striking resemblances to NFL quarterbacks. (The QB Holly is looking for during this episode is AARON RODGERS--sorry to shout it at you but at least she didn't do it during the show.) These 3 will evoke Bette Midler and at some point be sure to ask you if you've washed your hands. As the silliness winds down, they'll dive into the heart behind Kristen and Sarah's newest book, Jesus Will Meet You There. You can find the preorder bonus materials here [https://sites.prh.com/jesuswillmeetyouthere/], find Kristen online here [https://kristenwetherell.com/] and on Instagram here [https://www.instagram.com/kristen_wetherell/], and find Sarah on her Substack [https://sarahpwalton.substack.com/], as well as on Instagram here [https://www.instagram.com/sarahpwalton/]. Music for Unseriously was composed and produced by Adam Wright, founder of ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Corner Room⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.cornerroommusic.com/], a ministry that sets the Bible to music as a tool for memorization and meditation. You can follow The Corner Room on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.instagram.com/cornerroommusic/]. Find podcast news, behind the scenes, and all things Unseriously ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@hollymacklebooks⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.instagram.com/hollymacklebooks/]. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy [https://art19.com/privacy] and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info [https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info].

Felicity Carswell and Sarah Dargue Ring for Tea

Pour yourself the perfect cuppa and settle in for a laugh with two of our favorite Brits, Felicity Carswell and Sarah Dargue of the Two Sisters and a Cup of Tea podcast [https://www.twosistersandacupoftea.com/]. Felicity, Sarah, and Holly will dig deep on all things skew-whiff as they define the limits of TV and weigh the merits of a larger freezer. But you better be right on time at 4:00 or you'll miss the secret DJ. Emma M. Lion will make an appearance, as well as Kate Albus. Both will be praised for their writing...one will catch some shade for their teatime verisimilitude. Be sure to catch the @hollymacklebooks Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/hollymacklebooks/] for the video of Holly showing Felicity and Sarah the mug she surprised them with for just this occasion, and while you're there be sure to follow along with the Two Sisters and a Cup of Tea Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/twosisters_and_acupoftea/]. And don't forget to look for those 10 of Those teabags, coming soon...eh, Jonathan? You can find Natalie Brand's new book, From Crimson to White here [https://us.10ofthose.com/product/9781837281626/from-crimson-to-white-paperback] and the beloved Kate Albus book here [https://www.amazon.com/Place-Hang-Moon-Kate-Albus/dp/0823452468/ref=sr_1_1?crid=164388OEAYDPL&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Zby55nUtc9hCD72HEOkKklrTA5z7PsCo9BBDxchBjgRWbjz2_KSFoTzcbAYpsoAf3d-2EeMkTDHefCsTt7vdC2J09G7fM7ixZacN2ciX0AYFd4krwklM-r_fzkIZ__nbte_8RAjNwjj3k98qSvoWplNuuV9okAbSVhSvoPvb_LUUjZzpMzfcpihAL-WMmGhIW_6kUcTri0uXFQMRi8NY7H5DCUowuiqkpd9Szj5SXD8.2BjWqP-nAXQE0nriFyy14YTBfDHLRggn0RssmsI-uCw&dib_tag=se&keywords=a+place+to+hang+the+moon&qid=1780788062&sprefix=a+place+to+h%2Caps%2C164&sr=8-1]. It's a hilarious episode punctuated by truth--if you've never heard an episode of the Two Sisters and a Cup of Tea podcast we hope that will change today! Music for Unseriously was composed and produced by Adam Wright, founder of ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Corner Room⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.cornerroommusic.com/], a ministry that sets the Bible to music as a tool for memorization and meditation. You can follow The Corner Room on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.instagram.com/cornerroommusic/]. Find podcast news, behind the scenes, and all things Unseriously ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@hollymacklebooks⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.instagram.com/hollymacklebooks/]. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy [https://art19.com/privacy] and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info [https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info].

PG/Get Serious: Kara Jones

*Heads up, parents, this episode is NOT for the kiddos! Today's Get Serious is with licensed professional counselor, counseling supervisor, and certified sex therapy associate Kara Jones all about healthy sexual intimacy within the covenant of marriage. It's an episode to forward along to your soon-to-be-married friends or your moms group--Kara is a wealth of knowledge mixed with deep sincerity and compassion on a topic that has long-plagued believers in the modern church. After some silliness and giggles on her Amazon search history and her husband's...shall we say...EAGERNESS to collect the Amazon deliveries, Kara and Holly will delve into how sex reflects how God made us to be drawn to his covenental, relational love, and all about Yada, or the Hebrew word for deep, experiential, relational knowledge of another. Plus they'll address the most common ditch Kara sees loving couples fall into before they arrive in her office. Kara kindly shares her nerd-out knowledge with us and offers multiple resources she strongly recommends, such as: The Great Sex Rescue [https://www.amazon.com/Great-Sex-Rescue-Recover-Intended/dp/1540900827/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2NYKPTIE2FC8S&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.xkuFR5dD4-ERJ1arBOn1eiSOGcT9_5iwg9ktfOR6Uu8dNt32aWxBvpIqlp_WD58mL2ID06adOCntQbpTWePi9QWcgjrGCN7cEZNonnTjsrPlen57n47AvXCGghLE7O1Sntj45qmLZUiSU6Fa3N0Yj_27RJtmkvvExPIxjfnNZE-kL8Cu9H5AuEkcxDByeP0ZLpcmD-i3XexcBje8n_Z0Av-nhrF-IR2xVitZlMweV18.oQIJSz0tJ1n0g6cteEhWSoielqV99b02NHATMkE7b-4&dib_tag=se&keywords=the+great+sex+rescue+book&qid=1780233257&sprefix=the+great+sex+rescue+book%2Caps%2C162&sr=8-1], Sheila Wray Gregoire Rethinking Sexuality [https://www.amazon.com/dp/0735291470?ref=cm_sw_r_ffobk_cso_cp_apin_dp_RA0TWB1NGPWQED0C4R40&ref_=cm_sw_r_ffobk_cso_cp_apin_dp_RA0TWB1NGPWQED0C4R40&social_share=cm_sw_r_ffobk_cso_cp_apin_dp_RA0TWB1NGPWQED0C4R40&bestFormat=true&rsd=Gm4nISKWKiHDgNgxrPwuyTrE9oZeq7rPlvqNrXvsoZ62WONnB4MZdATdYAKHwnqdC6iLOiYvoh6ZGVvqEs3Oc9bGZkAbRq86na9oZiosQWeQKHWy&edk=AQIDAHi1lw%2FM8UbbSMD9ScOOFEmBMHMthHeEhqDaQYPJUAX3jQHfLEsFGz5iAcxybm6%2B%2F1HUAAAAfjB8BgkqhkiG9w0BBwagbzBtAgEAMGgGCSqGSIb3DQEHATAeBglghkgBZQMEAS4wEQQMwBLgoBXtqY0j4u6xAgEQgDsat6ODaF0S5cbktfBm68JIMb9sWoxVmcQUvV9jVByr5nNwUo1M0LqYPMeM40ElX3O%2Bjvv5HNNljIuBjw%3D%3D], Juli Slattery Come As You Are [https://www.amazon.com/Come-You-Are-Surprising-Transform/dp/1982165316/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2O3FT0VB9YL3&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.KXYwluWcF_JsrKtc8l0N4XhoBHr1dRl9UfHGBKMJELff5pfBObkcDbagJPN8sRN_hXTZ1NZ47TgyNmLomMEYp2wndEnPwG7qsF6-Dep2_mrGbsLucGU3OCPEvGXikpLcOnOMOzsOdOElJIaHaaU_HibNBD1oKuKR2Xu6b5Akb7mczTm24xvO21jVnAGnw18-XtgQ6GGxcGOf6KzgQhzi2J-GUdFVSLum5tGDdtkTpXw.P291qLrS8qRDrweU5eZL3hTY-Sw_wtU0dvVfOGSn_t8&dib_tag=se&keywords=come+as+you+are+book+emily&qid=1780233366&sprefix=come+as+you+are+book+emily%2Caps%2C182&sr=8-1], Emily Nagoski or any titles by Clifford & Joyce Penner such as Restoring the Pleasure [https://www.amazon.com/Restoring-Pleasure-Thomas-Nelson/dp/0718077555/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2RC11HNG27IOG&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.EJjh1r0e-PSg1Ho3phzyqGJlX4b33uKMhyNXNIVAWI3987pVHNPQFGqotZy4Oe5-YK9gUMo5gFgrPhYQlj-72lbQVj8tOVsNJS4v1A9GuX2xiYMazS5PTcXuOjrLV-kS8accREJK-9twuUXl-SusgA.JnYDl2_DNQxAFZ358BRy8e_P91h215YKOFFL7qFfA6E&dib_tag=se&keywords=restoring+the+pleasure+by+clifford+%26+joyce+penner&nsdOptOutParam=true&qid=1780233441&sprefix=restoring+the+pleasure+%2Caps%2C166&sr=8-1], Enjoy! The Gift of Sexual Pleasure for Women [https://www.amazon.com/Enjoy-Gift-Sexual-Pleasure-Women/dp/1589978021/ref=sr_1_3?crid=RCWLA2MV5JRF&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Z_RgvVaa-Sr1wh-MHf-Git3cqAgb8q6EnkW2k8QDbRvxLIAH7ZquQ7gEFv6lztAFOWczYvKm2Jjs3oXYLtAT4gLoml0273CRKGPyEaoQcdYKY3ArHZYAFuKGljFXCEMeJFoWWakJ6x5VE-5HPLC_5dPBoN8oRV1N0CQmlS0pUFFbJKx52tbH2OdLXVjIneMtLw9v8Cif9n0_Jccc2sm3hCnhjv5ePXqTIMVZEOo_CyQ.sMO6VzG9EGdqUDd9QRH_4MrRoLQdV7pgdMoQrarvhak&dib_tag=se&keywords=clifford+and+joyce+penner+books&qid=1780233479&sprefix=clifford+%26+joyce+penner%2Caps%2C145&sr=8-3], or Getting Your Sex Life Off to a Great Start: A Guide for Engaged or Newlywed Couples [https://www.amazon.com/Getting-Your-Life-Great-Start/dp/0849935156/ref=sr_1_2?crid=RCWLA2MV5JRF&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Z_RgvVaa-Sr1wh-MHf-Git3cqAgb8q6EnkW2k8QDbRvxLIAH7ZquQ7gEFv6lztAFOWczYvKm2Jjs3oXYLtAT4gLoml0273CRKGPyEaoQcdYKY3ArHZYAFuKGljFXCEMeJFoWWakJ6x5VE-5HPLC_5dPBoN8oRV1N0CQmlS0pUFFbJKx52tbH2OdLXVjIneMtLw9v8Cif9n0_Jccc2sm3hCnhjv5ePXqTIMVZEOo_CyQ.sMO6VzG9EGdqUDd9QRH_4MrRoLQdV7pgdMoQrarvhak&dib_tag=se&keywords=clifford+and+joyce+penner+books&qid=1780233479&sprefix=clifford+%26+joyce+penner%2Caps%2C145&sr=8-2] (Holly would like it noted that her Amazon search history has also now been impacted.) If you've never listened to the Unseriously episode with Birds & Bees' Mary Flo Ridley and Megan Michaelson all about training up kiddos drip by drip on this same topic, you can find that here [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/its-the-pg-episode-drop-2/id1790642193?i=1000705240101], plus don't miss their traditional episode of Unseriously replete with the usual silliness here [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mary-flo-ridley-and-megan-michaelson-danced-at-their/id1790642193?i=1000703449608]. Kara Jones is licensed to see clients located in Alabama at the time of service and can be reached here via the Covenant Counseling web site [https://www.covenantcounsel.com/counselors/kara-jones/]. Kara recommends the database for the American Board of Christian Sex Therapists [https://www.sexualwholeness.com/] to locate a like-minded and trained sex therapist certified for your geographical location. 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