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Provider, Vendor, Operator: Patient Access Insights with Keith Eggert of Abax Health

40 min · 8. maj 2026
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Provider, Vendor, Operator: Patient Access Insights with Keith Eggert of Abax Health Take a journey through the ins and outs of Patient Access with Keith Eggert – a former patient access employee turned VP of Revenue Cycle - and now COO of Abax Health. Gain valuable insights into the challenges, innovative solutions, and future trends shaping this critical part of the revenue cycle, including specific tips on best practice scheduling and referrals. Key Topics: * The strategic role of patient access in healthcare success * How proper referral management connects patients with care to optimize revenue * The significance of referrals, scheduling, and real-time KPIs * Navigating lengthy sales cycles and vendor-provider partnerships * A lookback on the historical trends of Patient Access * A future outlook on patient access challenges and uninsured populations * Building a true partnership mindset between vendors and providers * Practical advice: walk in your patient's shoes for process improvement Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction 01:04 – Vendor Voices Snapshot Challenge 05:09 - Keith Eggert’s background and transition fromprovider to vendor 06:57 - Challenges of lengthy sales cycles andnavigating healthcare bureaucracy 11:48 - The potential impact of AI on the sales cycle 13:54 - The importance of a vendor-providerpartnership and collaboration 17:00 – The provider challenge of balancing day-to-dayops with vendor attention 21:12 – Historical challenges in Patient Access, long-termtrends 25:38 – Patient Access themes of 2025; uninsuredpatients and OBBBA influences 29:31 - Critical KPIs for patient access success 32:25 - Enhancing referral tracking and patientengagement during scheduling 35:19 - Strategies for increasing patient appointmentscheduling 38:50 - Final parting advice: walk in your patient’sshoes for continuous improvement   The episode was brought to you by: Real Partners Consulting [https://realpartnersconsulting.com/] Connect with Ryan Downs: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanpdowns/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanpdowns/]  Connect with Keith Eggert: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keith-eggert-fhfma-1604434/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/keith-eggert-fhfma-1604434/] We Want Your Input! If you’d like to suggest a specific topic or guest, feelfree to reach out to me on LinkedIn or email at rdowns@realpartnersconsulting.com. Please rate and review – and be sure to subscribe to nevermiss an episode! Thank you for listening!

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Automating the Drudgery to Liberate Rev Cycle Teams: Insights from Dave Blanchard of Candid Health Most healthcare organizations are drowning in manual tasks,frantically trying to keep up - until now. Join Dave Blanchard of Candid Health as he walks us through the process to remove avoidable friction within your revenue cycle. You'll discover how understanding your data foundation is thekey to unlocking AI’s potential, why automation is a liberation strategy, and how to combat the misconception that AI replaces people. Automation isn't about eliminating your team; it's about freeing them to focus on what truly matters -patient care and complex problem-solving.   Key Topics: * The concept of touchless claim rates and its impact on healthcare efficiency * Differentiating automation: liberation vs. replacement * Building a foundation: importance of understanding healthcare data * Overcoming misconceptions about AI and automation in revenue cycle management * Key success factors for tech implementation in healthcare organizations * Short-term opportunities for stability and growth in 2026 Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction00:57 - Vendor Voices Snapshot Challenge 03:26 - Introducing Dave Blanchard04:25 - Defining touchless claim rate and its significance05:34 - Addressing concerns: automation as a tool for human empowerment instead of workforce reduction07:28 - How staffing challenges accelerate the need for touchless solutions 09:29 - Building a strong data foundation for AI success 12:04 - Metrics that matter; Demonstrating ROI 15:56 - Debunking common misconceptions about automation and AI 24:55 - Surprising lessons from organizations implementing automation 30:03 - Key success factors in technology implementations 34:50 – Short term strategies to stabilize revenue cycle performance in 2026 37:59 - Final advice: Trust your intuition, seek partnerships, be kind   The episode was brought to you by: Real Partners Consulting [https://realpartnersconsulting.com/] Connect with Ryan Downs: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanpdowns/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanpdowns/]  Connect with Dave Blanchard: https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-blanchard-90994a9/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-blanchard-90994a9/]  We Want Your Input! If you’d like to suggest a specific topic or guest, feelfree to reach out to me on LinkedIn or email at rdowns@realpartnersconsulting.com. Please rate and review – and be sure to subscribe to nevermiss an episode! Thank you for listening!

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episode Provider, Vendor, Operator: Patient Access Insights with Keith Eggert of Abax Health artwork

Provider, Vendor, Operator: Patient Access Insights with Keith Eggert of Abax Health

Provider, Vendor, Operator: Patient Access Insights with Keith Eggert of Abax Health Take a journey through the ins and outs of Patient Access with Keith Eggert – a former patient access employee turned VP of Revenue Cycle - and now COO of Abax Health. Gain valuable insights into the challenges, innovative solutions, and future trends shaping this critical part of the revenue cycle, including specific tips on best practice scheduling and referrals. Key Topics: * The strategic role of patient access in healthcare success * How proper referral management connects patients with care to optimize revenue * The significance of referrals, scheduling, and real-time KPIs * Navigating lengthy sales cycles and vendor-provider partnerships * A lookback on the historical trends of Patient Access * A future outlook on patient access challenges and uninsured populations * Building a true partnership mindset between vendors and providers * Practical advice: walk in your patient's shoes for process improvement Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction 01:04 – Vendor Voices Snapshot Challenge 05:09 - Keith Eggert’s background and transition fromprovider to vendor 06:57 - Challenges of lengthy sales cycles andnavigating healthcare bureaucracy 11:48 - The potential impact of AI on the sales cycle 13:54 - The importance of a vendor-providerpartnership and collaboration 17:00 – The provider challenge of balancing day-to-dayops with vendor attention 21:12 – Historical challenges in Patient Access, long-termtrends 25:38 – Patient Access themes of 2025; uninsuredpatients and OBBBA influences 29:31 - Critical KPIs for patient access success 32:25 - Enhancing referral tracking and patientengagement during scheduling 35:19 - Strategies for increasing patient appointmentscheduling 38:50 - Final parting advice: walk in your patient’sshoes for continuous improvement   The episode was brought to you by: Real Partners Consulting [https://realpartnersconsulting.com/] Connect with Ryan Downs: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanpdowns/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanpdowns/]  Connect with Keith Eggert: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keith-eggert-fhfma-1604434/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/keith-eggert-fhfma-1604434/] We Want Your Input! If you’d like to suggest a specific topic or guest, feelfree to reach out to me on LinkedIn or email at rdowns@realpartnersconsulting.com. Please rate and review – and be sure to subscribe to nevermiss an episode! Thank you for listening!

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