Who actually votes for Donald Trump?

Gen X: The Greatest Generation

Why do people say that Gen X was the very last generation to have a real childhood? In this episode, we take a look at what it was like growing up Gen X and what it really means to belong to the smallest age grouping in modern history. We examine how our unique position between the analog and digital eras completely shaped our worldview, creating a cohort of people who are uniquely resilient and private. We look at the hilarious and slightly heartbreaking reality of being the original latchkey kids. From dodging broken bones in unsupervised neighborhoods to sitting with constructive boredom before smartphones existed, we look at the exact moments that taught us how to solve our own problems. We also take an honest look at the flaws of our upbringing, unpacking the deep emotional weight behind why so many of us stopped expecting people to save us. We also take an honest and vulnerable look at ways our generation has overcorrected as parents. We look at how our desire to protect our children has led to an era of hyper-scheduling, tracking apps, and anxiety, leaving younger people afraid of basic face-to-face discomfort. From the monetization of youth sports to the mental toll of carrying around a continuous stream of social media comparison in your pocket, we dissect why modern life feels so fragile. Finally, we confront the heavy reality of the sandwich generation. We talk about the intense, everyday stress of balancing our lives while managing aging parents who failed to make a plan for the future. CHAPTER MARKERS: 00 Intro. 00:40 The reality of being a Gen Xer. 00:02:39 Adapting from analog childhoods to digital realities. 00:04:50 Latchkey kids and unsupervised after-school culture. 00:06:57 How Gen X parents aggressively overcorrected. 00:07:37 Hyper-surveillance, cell phones, and college campus protests. 00:12:41 Recording radio music onto physical mixed tapes. 00:14:24 Developing a strong, lifelong bullshit monitor. 00:16:10 Passing paper notes versus permanent digital records. 00:18:52 Hyper-specialized youth sports and intense childhood stress. 00:22:48 Talk radio, cable news, and Walter Cronkite. 00:24:07 Balancing news reporting before political echo chambers. 00:26:08 Living through childhood parental divorce dynamics. 00:32:08 Grateful for real-world play on our streets. 00:33:51 Watching younger generations battle smartphone anxieties. 00:35:34 Surviving the stressful modern sandwich generation trap. 00:37:12 Gen X operates as society's quiet fixers. RESOURCES MENTIONED: https://youtu.be/GVxSREVTFTA?si=xS6MPooh7mEGDc1F [https://youtu.be/GVxSREVTFTA?si=xS6MPooh7mEGDc1F] https://youtu.be/GVxSREVTFTA?si=xS6MPooh7mEGDc1Fhttps://youtu.be/GVxSREVTFTA?si=xS6MPooh7mEGDc1F [https://youtu.be/GVxSREVTFTA?si=xS6MPooh7mEGDc1F] https://youtu.be/7Ul5CHvgRRw?si=aFh_x9UbXY_rUvQthttps://youtu.be/7Ul5CHvgRRw?si=aFh_x9UbXY_rUvQt [https://youtu.be/7Ul5CHvgRRw?si=aFh_x9UbXY_rUvQt] https://book-shelfie.com/roll-with-it/ The Coddling of the American Mind Book: https://www.thecoddling.com/ [https://www.thecoddling.com/] Brad Porteus Book “Roll With It”: https://book-shelfie.com/roll-with-it/ [https://book-shelfie.com/roll-with-it/] MAPS!!!! Thomas Guide: https://thomasmaps.com/la-org-thomas-guide-2025-57th-edition-in-stock-now/ [https://thomasmaps.com/la-org-thomas-guide-2025-57th-edition-in-stock-now/] The Paper Fortune Teller!!! https://youtu.be/tOcRq1fRypo?si=cD3TKSC_IrQJt658 [https://youtu.be/tOcRq1fRypo?si=cD3TKSC_IrQJt658] Our Website: * https://www.wevegottotalk.com/ [https://www.wevegottotalk.com/] LINKS: On Instagram https://www.instagram.com/wevegottotalk/ [https://www.instagram.com/wevegottotalk/] On YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WeveGotToTalk [https://www.youtube.com/@WeveGotToTalk] On Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/weve-got-to-talk/id1797423701 [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/weve-got-to-talk/id1797423701] On Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0qJVgTvjciUffRmoUienx2 [https://open.spotify.com/show/0qJVgTvjciUffRmoUienx2] How to find Nicole https://nicolefonarow.com/ [https://nicolefonarow.com/] How to find Jolene https://dibledough.com/ [https://dibledough.com/]

Can you be Liberal and Patriotic?

Why does celebrating the 4th of July suddenly feel like a political statement? In this episode, Jolene and Nicole tackle the upcoming 250th birthday of the United States to explore a question dividing the country: can you be liberal and patriotic? We look back at our shared childhood memories of the 200th Bicentennial parade, contrasting that early innocence with the deep anxieties and partisan divisions shaping our modern public square. We examine the staggering data behind recent Reuters and Ipsos polling that reveals a massive patriotic split between Democrats and Republicans. Nicole shares the raw conflict liberals face regarding how the flag has been weaponized, leading to an honest conversation about why loving your country shouldn't mean endorsing a specific politician. Jolene counters with a powerful reminder on why America remains the greatest nation on earth and why everyday citizens hold the real power. We also share some beautiful, real-world proof of American unity that the mainstream media completely ignores. From a peaceful, million-person celebration parade in the heart of New York City to international World Cup tourists discovering how incredibly kind and welcoming everyday Americans are, we look at the reality outside of our toxic phone screens. We talk about the dangerous ways political parties use constant labeling to keep us fighting, and why the global "American Dream" is still very much alive. CHAPTER MARKERS: 00:00 Intro. 00:23 Celebrating America's upcoming 250th birthday. 01:08 Remembering the 200th Bicentennial childhood. 01:45 Democracy as a fragile experiment. 03:36 America is the greatest nation earth. 04:24 Facing historical amnesia and tyranny. 05:22 Reclaiming patriotism from modern politicians. 05:59 Analyzing the Reuters patriotic poll. 07:00 Weaponizing the flag to divide us. 09:57 Neighborhood flags and cultural anxiety. 12:41 Does patriotism empower Donald Trump? 17:23 What makes us proud Americans. 18:36 Low voter turnout in primaries. 22:14 Encouraging the left to celebrate. 23:56 World Cup tourists discovering America. 30:22 Bizarre combat events at White House. 32:22 Discovering hope under devastating circumstances. 35:36 Sports analogies entering modern politics. 38:19 Decency will turn society around. 39:41 Would You Rather RESOURCES MENTIONED: Graham Platner: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jun/09/graham-platner-maine-senate-primary [https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jun/09/graham-platner-maine-senate-primary] Gallup Polling - Americans Divided: https://www.ap.org/news-highlights/spotlights/2025/national-pride-is-declining-in-america-and-its-splitting-by-party-lines-new-gallup-polling-shows [https://www.ap.org/news-highlights/spotlights/2025/national-pride-is-declining-in-america-and-its-splitting-by-party-lines-new-gallup-polling-shows/] Stephen Hawkins Episode: https://youtu.be/GpcXMoW2vcg?si=HKs9cacFP8Y1ndei [https://youtu.be/GpcXMoW2vcg?si=HKs9cacFP8Y1ndei] David French Episode: https://youtu.be/MKss8IcOB-Q [https://youtu.be/MKss8IcOB-Q] Pro Hamas Protest in NYC? Episode: https://youtu.be/N1ay0AQcT7A?si=CWIPZdVwxYX0dKA3 [https://youtu.be/N1ay0AQcT7A?si=CWIPZdVwxYX0dKA3] Stacy Blakeley of Builders Episode: https://youtu.be/DyKi_sy9pko?si=HrbiNvVfUwrb1aT4 [https://youtu.be/DyKi_sy9pko?si=HrbiNvVfUwrb1aT4] Artemis II Crew Flies Around the Moon: https://www.nasa.gov/podcasts/curious-universe/artemis-ii-circles-moon/ [https://www.nasa.gov/podcasts/curious-universe/artemis-ii-circles-moon/] Let’s Make a Deal with Monte Hall: https://youtu.be/2UESBk2H62g?si=1CxM67Ig5NuTR3uL [https://youtu.be/2UESBk2H62g?si=1CxM67Ig5NuTR3uL] Happy Days Dance Marathon: https://youtu.be/MHA-odJh2Wk?si=Z2mgojJUCLSlpKcN [https://youtu.be/MHA-odJh2Wk?si=Z2mgojJUCLSlpKcN] Lee Greenwood’s God Bless The USA: https://youtu.be/-KoXt9pZLGM?si=mVkUsWggXm--Fb5u [https://youtu.be/-KoXt9pZLGM?si=mVkUsWggXm--Fb5u] Our Website: * https://www.wevegottotalk.com/ [https://www.wevegottotalk.com/] LINKS: On Instagram https://www.instagram.com/wevegottotalk/ [https://www.instagram.com/wevegottotalk/] On YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WeveGotToTalk [https://www.youtube.com/@WeveGotToTalk] On Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/weve-got-to-talk/id1797423701 [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/weve-got-to-talk/id1797423701] On Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0qJVgTvjciUffRmoUienx2 [https://open.spotify.com/show/0qJVgTvjciUffRmoUienx2] How to find Nicole https://nicolefonarow.com/ [https://nicolefonarow.com/] How to find Jolene https://dibledough.com/ [https://dibledough.com/]

David French: How America Will Recover

Why are modern political movements suddenly reviving ideas that the world discredited decades ago? In this episode, we sit down with New York Times columnist and constitutional lawyer David French to discuss the deep psychological and cultural shifts breaking our societal guardrails. David shares his unique journey from growing up in the conservative South to serving as an JAG officer in the Army Reserve in Iraq, providing a grounded framework for why our current public discourse feels so dangerous. We focus on David's striking concept to answer the question: why we are in the great forgetting. We look at how the passing of the generations who personally survived world wars, fascism, and communism has left a vacuum in our collective memory. We talk about the terrifying ways history is currently being weaponized as a tool for ideological victory rather than studied as a pursuit of wisdom and truth. We also pull back the curtain on the dangerous rise of transactional politics on both the left and the right. Using the controversial candidacies of Graham Platner and Ken Paxton, we examine how the angriest wings of the major parties capture the primary system, leaving the "exhausted majority" to passively follow. David issues a profound warning to voters on how supporting a corrupt or cruel politician ultimately corrupts the character of the voter more than it changes the leader. Finally, we look at the vital difference between ideological moderation and temperamental moderation. We talk about why the ability to hold robust convictions while maintaining cross-political friendships is the single most important skill Americans must relearn. CHAPTER MARKERS: 00:00 Intro. 00:26 Introduction of columnist David French. 01:08 From Southern fundamentalism to constitutional law. 04:39 Serving as an Army Reserve JAG officer. 05:29 Choosing a journalism career over law. 08:52 Unpacking the Great Forgetting concept. 13:19 How educational gaps fuel historical amnesia. 14:42 Weaponizing history in the culture wars. 18:06 Losing our direct contact with history. 19:29 Ideological moderation versus temperamental moderation. 23:40 The reality of the exhausted majority. 27:44 Primary turnouts shaping general election options. 31:55 Facing decade-long pushback as Never-Trump. 33:42 How corrupt leaders change their voters. 35:37 The thermostatic nature of American politics. 37:31 Finding electoral hope in independent behavior. 45:39 Pastor Tim Keller on broken friendships. 49:33 Will MAGA survive without Donald Trump? 52:05 The cultural obsession with fake authenticity. RESOURCES MENTIONED: David’s Podcast: https://thedispatch.com/podcast/advisoryopinions/ [https://thedispatch.com/podcast/advisoryopinions/] More In Common: https://moreincommonus.com/ [https://moreincommonus.com/] Brad Porteus: https://www.bridgegrades.org/ [https://www.bridgegrades.org/] David’s Good For The Soul: The Return of the King by J.R.R. Tolkien https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/61215384-the-return-of-the-king [https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/61215384-the-return-of-the-king] Our Website: * https://www.wevegottotalk.com/ [https://www.wevegottotalk.com/] LINKS: On Instagram https://www.instagram.com/wevegottotalk/ [https://www.instagram.com/wevegottotalk/] On YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WeveGotToTalk [https://www.youtube.com/@WeveGotToTalk] On Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/weve-got-to-talk/id1797423701 [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/weve-got-to-talk/id1797423701] On Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0qJVgTvjciUffRmoUienx2 [https://open.spotify.com/show/0qJVgTvjciUffRmoUienx2] How to find Nicole https://nicolefonarow.com/ [https://nicolefonarow.com/] How to find Jolene https://dibledough.com/ [https://dibledough.com/]

Who actually votes for Donald Trump?

Why does it feel like modern politics has shifted from simple disagreements to an all-out war for team loyalty? In this episode, we sit down with Stephen Hawkins, the director of research for More in Common, an international organization tracking the deep psychology, values, and hidden tribes behind our fractured global landscape. Stephen breaks down his journey from an evangelical College Republican to a cosmopolitan progressive activist, revealing why the simplistic categories used by the media fail to explain our real inner lives. We examine More in Common’s massive new study to answer the question: who actually votes for Donald Trump? We unpack the shocking data showing that the modern Republican voter base is the youngest and most racially diverse it has been in half a century. Jolene and Nicole share their own unexpected results from taking the coalition quiz, and we look at the real economic and border anxieties driving the "Reluctant Right" versus the deeply personal identity anchoring "MAGA Hardliners." We also pull back the curtain on the completely broken incentive structures keeping Washington D.C. locked in conflict. From social media algorithms that monetize rage to a political system that forces members of Congress to spend up to 70% of their time fundraising, we look at how combativeness has become a highly profitable business model. CHAPTER MARKERS: 00:00 Intro. 00:26 Meet research director Stephen Hawkins. 01:08 Stephen’s journey across both political tribes. 03:01 The tragic origins of More in Common. 07:08 Moving beyond simplistic demographics in polling. 11:46 Understanding America's exhausted majority. 12:42 Breaking down the modern Trump coalition. 14:21 Host results from the coalition quiz. 18:43 The myth of shy Trump voters. 20:23 MAGA hardliners and personal identity. 22:00 The Democratic perception gap on economics. 25:19 How media models monetize political rage. 27:55 The exhausting reality of congressional fundraising. 30:15 How D.C. camaraderie completely died. 34:42 Solidarity during major American crises. 38:00 Political lessons from the Gilded Age. 44:38 Why public institutional trust eroded. 47:09 Gen Z as political kingmakers. 50:56 AI as a shared societal threat. 53:52 Good for the soul book recommendation. 55:22 Would You Rather: Banning anonymous accounts. 57:32 Would You Rather: Hometown versus cruise. RESOURCES MENTIONED: Stephen Hawkins Organization: https://moreincommonus.com/ [https://moreincommonus.com/] Stephen Hawkins Report: https://beyondmaga.us/ [https://beyondmaga.us/] Brad Porteus: https://www.bridgegrades.org/ [https://www.bridgegrades.org/] Stephen's Good for the Soul: https://rutgerbregman.com/books/moral-ambition [https://rutgerbregman.com/books/moral-ambition] Our Website: * https://www.wevegottotalk.com/ [https://www.wevegottotalk.com/] LINKS: On Instagram https://www.instagram.com/wevegottotalk/ [https://www.instagram.com/wevegottotalk/] On YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WeveGotToTalk [https://www.youtube.com/@WeveGotToTalk] On Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/weve-got-to-talk/id1797423701 [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/weve-got-to-talk/id1797423701] On Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0qJVgTvjciUffRmoUienx2 [https://open.spotify.com/show/0qJVgTvjciUffRmoUienx2] How to find Nicole https://nicolefonarow.com/ [https://nicolefonarow.com/] How to find Jolene https://dibledough.com/ [https://dibledough.com/]

Is Minimum Wage the Real Problem with Tipping Culture?

Tipping culture in the USA is out of control right now. In this episode, we dig into the history of tipping in America, why it became normal for customers to subsidize wages, and how the USA minimum wage rules for tipped workers still shape what you pay every time you eat out. We talk about the tipped minimum wage, the “tip credit”, and why the $2.13 an hour figure still comes up when people search “why do we tip in America” and “why is tipping expected”. We also get into the real question people argue about online: should the US get rid of tipping and switch to a no tipping model like parts of Europe and Japan? Would raising the minimum wage for servers fix tipping culture, or would it just make restaurant prices even higher? We break down what “fair pay” could look like without turning every meal into a luxury, and why so many people feel stuck between wanting to tip well and feeling pressured to tip everywhere. Then we shift into the other thing that is quietly making everyone uncomfortable: ratings culture. From Yelp and Google reviews to the constant “rate your experience” texts, we talk about why rating everything has become normal, and how online reviews can hurt small businesses when people are angry, unfair, or just trying to get free stuff. If you have ever searched “are Google reviews reliable” or “fake reviews problem”, you are going to feel very seen. Finally, we talk about Uber and Lyft ratings and why they are so problematic. When both the driver and the passenger are rating each other, it can make people afraid to be honest, even when a ride feels unsafe. Here is where we land. $2.13 an hour is bananas. Tipping has become a wage subsidy, and customers are being guilted into carrying it. And if we are going to keep rating everything, we should at least remember there are real humans on the other side of that screen. Take a breath. Contact the owner first. Give people a chance to fix it before you light them up in public. CHAPTER MARKERS: 00:00 Intro. 00:00:53 Tipping and rating culture. Why this topic hits a nerve. 00:01:35 History of tipping culture in the USA. Where “tip” comes from. 00:02:32 Why tipping spread in America. Post slavery and the railways. 00:04:53 Tipped minimum wage. Why $2.13 an hour still exists. 00:05:28 Conservative view on tipping. Rewarding good service. 00:06:36 Tip pooling. Who gets tipped and who gets left out. 00:08:27 Point of sale tipping prompts. Why tip pressure feels gross. 00:11:32 No tipping restaurants. Higher prices and better experience. 00:12:31 Restaurant tipping percentages. What is normal now. 00:14:22 Tipping guide. Counter service, salons, Uber, hotels, delivery. 00:17:03 Hotel tipping debate. When to tip housekeeping. 00:18:16 Delivery tipping. Who gets blamed when food is late. 00:22:16 Minimum wage plus tips. Republican vs Democrat framing. 00:30:07 Ratings culture. Yelp, Google reviews, and why it is everywhere. 00:32:10 Uber and Lyft ratings. Unsafe rides and fear of honesty. 00:35:30 Why ratings matter. Trust, authenticity, and buying reviews. RESOURCES MENTIONED: Our Website: * https://www.wevegottotalk.com/ [https://www.wevegottotalk.com/] LINKS: On Instagram https://www.instagram.com/wevegottotalk/ [https://www.instagram.com/wevegottotalk/] On YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WeveGotToTalk [https://www.youtube.com/@WeveGotToTalk] On Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/weve-got-to-talk/id1797423701 [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/weve-got-to-talk/id1797423701] On Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0qJVgTvjciUffRmoUienx2 [https://open.spotify.com/show/0qJVgTvjciUffRmoUienx2] How to find Nicole https://nicolefonarow.com/ [https://nicolefonarow.com/] How to find Jolene https://dibledough.com/ [https://dibledough.com/]