A Church for Phillippa

A Church for Sean

This is a very special one, friends. Of all the people I have ever interviewed on a podcast, this guest will always be the most special of all: my husband of 15 years, life partner, and best friend, Sean Allan Bowerman. We talk about our love story, our parenting journey, our ministry journey, and what it takes for a church to be able to reach a weirdo millennial Godzilla fanatic like Sean. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit pastornatalie4.substack.com [https://pastornatalie4.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1]

A Church for Jeanne

I invited my friend and Methodist clergy colleague Jeanne Williams to chat with me about her life as a mom of neurospicy kids, how you carve out space to pursue your calling in a flawed system, how you survive the hard days, and how to bask in God's love! This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit pastornatalie4.substack.com [https://pastornatalie4.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1]

A Church for Amber

Amber is also a podcasting clergywoman, and when she invited me to be on her podcast, I invited her to come be on mine, and the results were magical! Think of this episode as part 2 of a glorious 2 part conversation about how to integrate badass women in the life of the Church. You can find part 1, my interview on Amber’s podcast, here: This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit pastornatalie4.substack.com [https://pastornatalie4.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1]

A Church for Phillippa

After a January hiatus, we're back! And today on the pod we are so blessed to have the Rev. Dr. Phillippa Faye Phaneuf: pastor, writer, prophet, and one of the very first people I met when I started seminary. We dive into the deep learnings of our seventeen-year friendship, and we talk service, coming out, metamorphosis, and how the Gospel calls us to big things. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit pastornatalie4.substack.com [https://pastornatalie4.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1]

The Lowe's Employee at the Manger

The last podcast episode of 2025: The Lowe's Employee at the Manger. What does Daniel teach us about bringing your authentic self to the nativity? This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit pastornatalie4.substack.com [https://pastornatalie4.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1]