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Artfully Said

Podcast by The Arts Society

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The Artfully Said podcast brings together leading voices in arts and culture. Every episode starts with two experts and a shared passion, but where the chat goes next is anyone’s guess. Expect stories, surprises, and the kind of exchange that happens when curious minds meet. Brought to you by The Arts Society, a network of over 64,000 members. With over 300 Arts Societies across the UK and beyond, there is a local Arts Society ready to welcome you, wherever you are. All guest viewpoints are independent and do not necessarily reflect The Arts Society’s perspective.

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6 episodes

episode Why Are We Still Talking About Women Artists? With Sarah Jaffray and Marie-Anne Mancio artwork

Why Are We Still Talking About Women Artists? With Sarah Jaffray and Marie-Anne Mancio

Why are we still talking about women artists? In this episode of Artfully Said, Accredited Arts Society lecturers Sarah Jaffray and Marie-Anne Mancio explore the complex history of women in art, challenging familiar myths around “great women artists,” the “girl boss” narrative, and the ways female artists have been written out of the Western art canon. Through a wide-ranging conversation that moves from Renaissance artists to modern and contemporary figures such as Artemisia Gentileschi, Georgia O’Keeffe, Lee Krasner, Barbara Hepworth, Yoko Ono, Judy Chicago, Louise Bourgeois and Augusta Savage, they discuss feminism, structural inequality, domesticity, craft, performance art, museum curation and the role of the muse. This thoughtful discussion asks how art history needs us to rethink inherited narrative to create a richer, more nuanced understanding of women artists and their place in the history of art. Sarah Jaffray is an art historian, educator, curator, and writer whose work focuses on modern art, with particular attention to philosophy, politics, and artistic process. She is currently Head of Art History at City Lit (London’s largest adult education college). Prior to this, she was a curator in the Department of Prints and Drawings at the British Museum. For six years, she was the lead educator for the Bridget Riley Art Foundation, and she has also worked at the Wellcome Collection, where she explored the connections between art, medicine, and human experience. Before moving to London, she was a tenured professor of art history based in Los Angeles. Originally trained as an artist, Marie-Anne Mancio is a writer and art historian. She earned a DPhil in Art and Critical Theory from the University of Sussex. Marie-Anne has lectured in art history at City Lit, Tate Modern, The Course, Art in London, the V&A, Dulwich Picture Gallery, HENI Films, and the Ben Uri Gallery. She also leads art history study tours abroad for ACE and is a director of the InFems art collective, for which she curates exhibitions and writes. Artfully Said is a video podcast brought to you by The Arts Society. All guest viewpoints are independent and do not necessarily reflect The Arts Society’s perspective.

6 May 2026 - 52 min
episode Antarctica and the Heroic Age of Exploration with Henrietta Hammant and Max Jones artwork

Antarctica and the Heroic Age of Exploration with Henrietta Hammant and Max Jones

What really happened in the race to the South Pole? Did Captain Oates really say "I'm going outside, I may be some time?" Were the British Heroic Age explorers like Robert Scott and Ernest Shackleton “brave but foolish,” or has history simplified a far more complex story? And how are modern explorers like Preet Chandi, reshaping what heroism looks like in the twenty-first century? In this episode of Artfully Said, Dr Henrietta Hammant and Dr Max Jones revisit this dramatic era of Antarctic exploration beyond the familiar narrative of Scott versus Amundsen to uncover the wider context of the “scramble for the Antarctic” on the eve of the First World War. The episode considers how empire was packaged for audiences at home through stirring tales of endurance, sacrifice and masculine heroism, and why Scott’s tragic death resonated so strongly on the eve of the First World War. Discover the extraordinary story of Captain Oates’ reindeer-fur sleeping bag, tracing its journey from Sámi craftsmanship to the Antarctic ice and eventually to the Scott Polar Research Institute. Revisit Shackleton’s Endurance expedition, one of the most remarkable survival stories in history, and learn how his reputation has risen and fallen over time. Dr. Henrietta Hammant is a museum anthropologist with a love of the polar regions. She holds degrees in Archaeology and Anthropology from the University of Cambridge, and Visual, Material and Museum Anthropology from the University of Oxford. Recently, she has completed her PhD in the Anthropology of Heritage at the University of Reading, with a focus on Heroic Age Antarctic explorers and their representation in British museums. She has worked in museums across Canada and the UK, including as Assistant Curator at the Itsanitaq Museum in Churchill, Manitoba, and Collections Coordinator at the Polar Museum, part of the Scott Polar Research Institute in Cambridge. She has visited Antarctic twice, and is now an Impact Fellow at the University of Nottingham, working to decolonise Nottingham City Museums and Galleries’ collection of North American ethnographic objects. Formerly a Fellow and Director of Studies in History at Christ's College, Cambridge, Dr. Max Jones, teaches at the University of Manchester and has previously won the university’s ‘Teacher of the Year’ award. He specialises in modern history since 1750, with particular interest in the cultural history of war and heroism, and is currently writing a new history of British heroes. His research and teaching focuses on heroes, heroism, gender & sexuality; the Arctic and Antarctic, exploration, technology & empire; the media and celebrity and the cultural history of war. He has analysed how heroic reputations are constructed and disseminated in order to offer insights into a range of research questions regarding empire, gender, sexuality, the media and the state. Artfully Said is a video podcast brought to you by The Arts Society. All guest viewpoints are independent and do not necessarily reflect The Arts Society’s perspective.

27 Feb 2026 - 40 min
episode What Are Collections For? With Irving Finkel and Sarah Burles artwork

What Are Collections For? With Irving Finkel and Sarah Burles

This episode of Artfully Said brings together Irving Finkel (British Museum curator and Assyriologist) and Sarah Burles (museum educator and collections specialist). Together, these Arts Society accredited lecturers embark on in-depth conversation about collecting, museum collections, and what drives humans to gather, preserve, and care for objects. Well known for his work on cuneiform tablets, ancient Mesopotamia, and the hidden stories of the British Museum, Irving Finkel explores the philosophy and history of collecting at every scale, from global institutions to deeply personal collections. Sarah Burles brings examines educational and curatorial perspectives, focusing on accessibility, learning, and how collections are interpreted for the audiences of today.Together, they discuss the origins of museum collections, the role of collectors in shaping public institutions, the difference between collecting and hoarding, and how to balance preservation, display, ethics, and relevance in the modern world. Irving Finkel is a British philologist and Assyriologist. He is currently Senior Assistant Keeper of Ancient Mesopotamian script, languages and cultures in the Department of the Middle East in the British Museum, where he specialises in cuneiform inscriptions on tablets of clay from ancient Mesopotamia. He also studies the history of board games, and among his breakthrough works is the determination of the rules of the Royal Game of Ur. Irving founded the Great Diary Project, a project to preserve the diaries of ordinary people. In association with the Bishopsgate Institute, he has helped to archive over 20,000 personal diaries. Irving has written a number of works of fiction for children, including The Princess Who Wouldn't Come Home and Swizzle de Brax and the Blungaphone. Sarah Burles studied History of Art at Cambridge University before doing a master’s degree at University College London. She went on to have a career in museum and gallery education, establishing new services in three different museums before working at the Fitzwilliam Museum for many years. Sarah is the founder of Cambridge Art Tours, which runs tours and courses in and around East Anglia, as well as online. She is a Tour Director for an award winning travel company and has led tours to Italy, France, Germany, Belgium and America. Artfully Said is a video podcast brought to you by The Arts Society. The Arts Society brings arts education and culture to a network of over 64,000 members. With over 300 Arts Societies across the UK and beyond, there is a local Arts Society ready to welcome you, wherever you are.Become a member of an Arts Society for monthly expert arts lectures, special events, and a community of art lovers near you.All guest viewpoints are independent and do not necessarily reflect The Arts Society’s perspective.

22 Jan 2026 - 40 min
episode '70s Music and Fashion: from Dancefloor to Runway. With Steve King and Scott Schiavone artwork

'70s Music and Fashion: from Dancefloor to Runway. With Steve King and Scott Schiavone

What made the 1970s such a defining decade for both music and fashion? In this episode, Arts Society accredited lecturers Steve King (music historian) and Scott Schiavone (fashion curator) explore how sound and style collided to create one of the most inventive eras in modern culture. From disco’s sweltering dance floors and punk’s raw rebellion to glam rock’s theatrical excess, they trace how identity, politics, and creativity reshaped what people listened to and what they wore while doing it.From Barry White, George McCrae, and Donna Summer’s electronic revolution to Vivienne Westwood and Malcolm McLaren’s punk provocation, the episode unpacks how the 70s mixed rebellion with glamour. They trace disco’s roots in marginalized communities, the rise of designers like Halston, Scott Barrie, and Diane von Fürstenberg, and the way icons like David Bowie, Marc Bolan, and Jimi Hendrix5 blurred boundaries between performance, art, and identity. From Studio 54 to Northern Soul, funk, and New Wave, Steve and Scott reveal how the decade’s fearless creativity still shapes today’s music, fashion, and culture. The Arts Society [https://theartssociety.org/] brings arts education and culture to a network of over 64,000 members. With over 300 Arts Societies across the UK and beyond, there is a local Arts Society ready to welcome you, wherever you are.Become a member for monthly expert arts lectures, special events, and a community of art lovers near you. All guest viewpoints are independent and do not necessarily reflect The Arts Society’s perspective.

26 Nov 2025 - 39 min
episode What Makes Great Art Great? With James Payne and Leslie Primo artwork

What Makes Great Art Great? With James Payne and Leslie Primo

What really makes great art great? In this week's episode, Arts Society accredited lecturer and art historian Leslie Primo joins James Payne (Great Art Explained) to debate everything from Vermeer’s Girl with a Pearl Earring and Da Vinci’s Mona Lisa to myths about Van Gogh and the role of patrons, critics and power in shaping the art world. They explore originality vs. refinement, technique vs. emotion and why even controversial figures like Rothko, Hirst and Emin may stand the test of time. From old masters like Caravaggio and Van Eyck to modern movements like Impressionism, Abstract Expressionism and the Young British Artists, this episode asks how what ends up in the canon - and who gets to decide. With stories of gatekeepers, conservation debates, Cold War Politics and today’s art market, this is a deep dive into how art’s meaning and value evolve in the public eye. Further Reading: Great Art Explained [https://www.waterstones.com/book/great-art-explained/james-payne/9780500025956] by James Payne The Foreign Invention of British Art [https://www.thamesandhudson.com/products/the-foreign-invention-of-british-art?srsltid=AfmBOoo-wA2DWi5aX5QsVRBw9oiB-MF3-MqKTaI4U-NnBOdR6r8Mbab3] by Leslie Primo The Arts Society [https://theartssociety.org/] brings arts education and culture to a network of over 64,000 members. With over 300 Arts Societies across the UK and beyond, there is a local Arts Society ready to welcome you, wherever you are.Become a member for monthly expert arts lectures, special events, and a community of art lovers near you. All guest viewpoints are independent and do not necessarily reflect The Arts Society’s perspective.

21 Oct 2025 - 35 min
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