
Battling with Business
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About Battling with Business
In this podcast, Gareth Tennant, a former Royal Marines Officer, and Chris Kitchener, a veteran of the software development world, explore ideas and concepts around teams and teamwork, leaders and leadership, and all things in between. It’s a discussion between a former military commander and a business manager, comparing and contrasting their experiences as they attempt to work out what makes teams, leaders, and businesses tick.
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In this episode of Battling with Business, Gareth and Chris delve into the life and leadership of Arthur Tedder, Marshal of the Royal Air Force and one of the most underrated military figures of WWII. Far from the front-page headlines, Tedder played a crucial strategic role as Eisenhower’s deputy, reshaping how air power supported ground operations and building the logistical frameworks that helped win the war. We explore Tedder’s journey from fighter pilot to senior commander, highlighting his diplomatic skills, cross-service curiosity, and ability to combine strategy with operational execution. This is a conversation about what it really takes to lead at scale—and why the best leaders are often not the loudest ones.

In the Second of two episodes of Battling with Business, Chris and Gareth visit the Royal Air Force Tedder Leadership Academy to explore the core themes of leadership, management, and command with: Group Captain Emma Keith and Warrant Officer Mark Willis. Together, they delve into: * The distinct but interrelated roles of leadership, management, and command in military and civilian contexts. * How the RAF develops and nurtures leaders across all ranks and trades. * The importance of self-awareness, emotional intelligence, and authenticity in effective leadership. * The evolving challenges of leading in a modern, multi-domain environment. * Reflections on how leadership theory is translated into practical delivery through real-world experience and education. * Insights into how the Tedder Academy is shaping the next generation of RAF leaders and contributing to wider Defence thinking. * What is the role of legacy and handing over command. This episode provides a fascinating window into the RAF’s leadership philosophy and raises thought-provoking questions about what it takes to lead well under pressure, whether in uniform or in business.

In the first of two episodes of Battling with Business, Chris and Gareth visit the Royal Air Force Tedder Leadership Academy to explore the core themes of leadership, management, and command with: Group Captain Emma Keith and Warrant Officer Mark Willis. Together, they delve into: * The distinct but interrelated roles of leadership, management, and command in military and civilian contexts. * How the RAF develops and nurtures leaders across all ranks and trades. * The importance of self-awareness, emotional intelligence, and authenticity in effective leadership. * The evolving challenges of leading in a modern, multi-domain environment. * Reflections on how leadership theory is translated into practical delivery through real-world experience and education. * Insights into how the Tedder Academy is shaping the next generation of RAF leaders and contributing to wider Defence thinking. * What is the role of legacy and handing over command. This episode provides a fascinating window into the RAF’s leadership philosophy and raises thought-provoking questions about what it takes to lead well under pressure, whether in uniform or in business.

In this powerful episode of Battling with Business, we sit down with Commander Roly Woods, a retired Royal Navy officer with over 46 years of service, to explore the personal and institutional journey of LGBTQ+ inclusion in the British Armed Forces. Now the LGBT Armed Forces Community Memorial Officer for the charity Fighting with Pride, Roly reflects on his early motivations to join the Navy, leadership experiences, and the dramatic transformation of military culture since the lifting of the ban on LGBT personnel in 2000. Together, we delve into the challenges LGBTQ+ service members faced under institutional discrimination — from living in secrecy, to emotional isolation, to dishonourable discharges and loss of medals. Roly shares deeply moving personal stories and historic insights into how courageous individuals and strong leadership drove systemic change across the Royal Navy, leading to today’s more inclusive and emotionally intelligent environment. We also discuss the ongoing efforts of Fighting with Pride, including: * Raising awareness of the Veterans’ Financial Recognition Scheme * Supporting LGBTQ+ veterans in restoring medals and service records * Building community through initiatives like the Snowdonia retreat * Leading the creation of the LGBT Armed Forces Memorial at the National Memorial Arboretum Whether you’re interested in military leadership, organizational change, or the evolving rights of LGBTQ+ veterans, this episode provides an essential perspective on how empathy, courage, and advocacy can reshape even the most traditional institutions. Listen now to hear about the untold stories behind the UK military’s transformation — and how leaders like Commander Woods continue to inspire change today.

Podcast Summary – Influencers: Ruth Bader Ginsburg In this episode, Chris and Gareth explore the remarkable life and enduring influence of Ruth Bader Ginsburg, examining how her strategic legal work reshaped gender equality in the United States. They discuss her legacy as a pioneering advocate for women’s rights, her resilience in the face of societal and professional obstacles, and her ability to drive lasting change through case law and coalition-building. Using examples like the 20-mph speed limit in Wales, they reflect on the human tendency to resist change before ultimately embracing it—paralleling the societal shifts Ginsburg helped spark. The conversation also delves into broader themes of feminism, the evolving role of women in the military and workforce, and how curiosity and open dialogue can influence personal growth and collective progress. From her ground-breaking legal achievements to her surprising cultural impact—including appearances in Deadpool 2 and Lego form—this episode highlights how Ginsburg’s legacy continues to inspire across political, social, and generational lines. Chris and Gareth underscore the power of conversation, respect across divides, and the courage to challenge the status quo in pursuit of a fairer world.

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