"Between Chaos & Bedtime" the Podcast
For most of my life, I believed that if something couldn’t be measured, completed, or achieved, it probably wasn’t worth doing. Then I learned about the philosophical distinction between telic and atelic pursuits. A telic pursuit has an endpoint. It’s done to achieve something—graduate, lose weight, finish the project, check the box. You complete something, and it’s done. It’s satisfying, and easy for an ADHD brain like mine to grasp. An atelic pursuit is different. It’s done for its own sake. Walking. Playing. Swimming. Having a conversation with a friend. The value isn’t found at the finish line—it’s found in the doing. It’s abstract, and hard for me to wrap my ADHD brain around. We Love Finish Lines For much of my life I’ve believed that in order for something to be worthwhile—in order for something to be deserving of my time and energy—it needs to be something that I can complete. Value is derived from a tangible result that you—and especially other people—can point to and say, “You did a thing, and here’s evidence to prove it.” Like a lot of people with ADHD, I crave the dopamine hit that comes from completion. Sometimes it’s not so much a feeling of accomplishment as it is relief, but crossing something off a list provides a defined endpoint, a predictable “high”, and that’s simple to grasp. But, understanding that not everything needs a defined goal is harder to accept. And that distinction has fundamentally changed the way I think about ADHD. When Structure Becomes a Trap When you read about strategies to manage ADHD or find “ADHD hacks” online they often suggest making lists, creating defined timeframes, or checking a box—essentially turning things into telic pursuits. Those strategies have a time and place. The goal-oriented approach can provide satisfaction, and in the right circumstances, help you get things done when you’re struggling with executive function. But you can’t apply that same strategy to everything. Clearly defined objectives in the wrong circumstances can create stress and achievement traps. Worst of all, they can restrict the ADHD brain’s natural strengths. They prevent daydreaming, they keep your mind from wandering, they don’t provide the space for discovery. And that’s a problem, too. It’s a balancing act. It’s important to understand and recognize that there are times when you need to get things done and be productive. But not everything should adhere to the same rigid framework and be solely focused on results. There are times when you need to provide space for your ADHD brain to wander and recharge. And more often than not, the opportunity to recharge is found in atelic pursuits. Sometimes the Point Is the Doing The more I’ve thought about it, the more I’ve realized that I avoided doing things simply for the sake of doing them. Pursuing passions became a value proposition, focused on the tangible things I got out of it. If it couldn’t be measured, it wasn’t worthwhile. Understanding the difference between telic and atelic pursuits helped me realize that life isn’t just about hustle and achievement. My value isn’t defined by how much I can accomplish, and there’s not always a finish line. Sometimes the point of swimming is swimming. Sometimes the point of reading is reading. Sometimes the point of spending time with your kids is simply being present—it’s not a constant attempt to make “core memories” by providing structured enrichment that’s over-planned and micro-managed. It’s about play, creativity, imagination, and just existing together. In our current culture, it’s hard to admit that not every moment needs to be optimized. Coming to that realization is liberating. It’s a relief to accept that I don’t have to constantly be moving towards goalposts. I can give myself permission to do things for their own sake and let my brain lead. It can be hard for an ADHD brain to accept that simply doing is enough, but often, that’s exactly what we need. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit carignanevonpohle.substack.com [https://carignanevonpohle.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1]
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