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The Business of Joy

Podcast by Lisa W. Miller

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About The Business of Joy

Consumer researcher Lisa W. Miller is an expert at telling the story behind the data. The Business of Joy is a business podcast where C-suite leaders and change-makers share real stories and strategies on how joy✨, purpose, and human connection fuel the top line and bottom line.

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episode Joie de Vivre: How La Madeleine's CEO John Dillon Is Bringing Joy Back to Restaurant Leadership artwork

Joie de Vivre: How La Madeleine's CEO John Dillon Is Bringing Joy Back to Restaurant Leadership

Joie de vivre. It's a French phrase that translates to "the joy of life." And when I sat down with John Dillon, CEO of La Madeleine, it was clear that joy isn't just a concept for this brand. The brand has been carrying joy in its DNA for 43 years. John's gift was seeing it and turning it up a notch. When John took over as CEO, one of the first things he did was create “Spark Joy Sessions” - conversations with frontline employees to figure out the pain points that actually impacted them on a daily basis. And when he went back a year later to report what had changed because of their feedback? He was surprised… they'd done more than he even realized! That's leadership. That’s a wrap for Season 7 - Hard to believe! Season 8 sneak peek will be coming soon!

19 May 2026 - 52 min
episode Joy is The Strategy (with John Goss) artwork

Joy is The Strategy (with John Goss)

Most executives don’t put the word "joy" in their personal brand statement. John Goss does! As President of Sally Beauty, a global brand with over 2,400 stores in the US and Canada, John has built his career around the idea that joy and culture aren’t separate from results - it produces them. In this conversation, we talked about what it really means to lead with joy. Not as a feel-good concept, but as a deliberate strategy. Joy attracts the right people, builds real trust, and drives everything else. We also got into the stuff that doesn't always make it into leadership conversations: * growing up as the new kid across eight schools * graduating high school in Singapore * and the early career moments that taught him exactly the kind of leader he never wanted to be

28 Apr 2026 - 49 min
episode The CEO Who Cut Prices, Raised Wages, and 12x'd Profit Anyway | Brandon Coleman III artwork

The CEO Who Cut Prices, Raised Wages, and 12x'd Profit Anyway | Brandon Coleman III

Gravy-powered rocket ship. 12x EBITDA. His dad made him write a P&L for his lemonade stand, even though Brandon Coleman III couldn't pronounce the word "quarters" yet. Same kid. Forty years later. Now he's leading major brands. Another story that shaped his leadership style: Early in his career, he walked into a restaurant and ordered his own promotion. His server looks at him and says: "I wouldn't do that." He waited until the rush died down. Pulled her aside. Asked her why. She told him everything. It's a moment that he never forgot. When you actually listen to your servers, managers, and guests, magic happens. At Cotton Patch Café, Brandon did the unthinkable - lowered prices, increased portions and increased wages! People thought he was nuts! Guess what? It worked, driving 12x EBITDA! Ironically, the best ideas are often not found in the boardroom. They're found at the front line!

14 Apr 2026 - 42 min
episode Why Leaders Miss Potential in Their Teams (with Kelli Valade) artwork

Why Leaders Miss Potential in Their Teams (with Kelli Valade)

“That’s a really good question…” when I hear this during my podcast, it really brings me joy and reminds me why I LOVE doing these! Kelli Valade, President and CEO of Women's Foodservice Forum, and I go off-script on this one. That’s when the magic happens, and what comes out of those moments is what makes it worth your time to watch and listen in! A few things you’ll walk away with: 🎙️ Why most people don’t lack ambition… they lack awareness of what’s possible for them 🎙️ Why asking “where do you want to be in 5 years?” isn’t helpful 🎙️ What it actually takes to build confidence in someone (hint: it doesn’t start with them) 🎙️ The hidden costs leaders miss because they aren’t visible on the P&L 🎙️ Where we got innovation right… and where we didn’t 🎙️ Why “being seen” might be the most underutilized leadership tool right now If you lead people, develop talent, or just want to think a little differently about what leadership actually requires today… this episode is worth a listen!

31 Mar 2026 - 44 min
episode Built by 1,000 Touchpoints: How Great Restaurants Actually Create Value (with Robin Blanchette) artwork

Built by 1,000 Touchpoints: How Great Restaurants Actually Create Value (with Robin Blanchette)

There’s a misconception that restaurant brands are built by big ideas, big campaigns, or the next big menu innovation. But the truth is much simpler and much harder. Restaurants don’t succeed because of one big home-run moment. They succeed because of thousands of tiny ones. In this episode of The Business of Joy, Lisa Miller sits down with Robin Blanchette, Founder and CEO of Norton Creative, to explore what really drives restaurant growth. Robin shares why brands can “die by a thousand cuts” or be built by thousands of touch points, and how the smallest decisions, like menu design, guest experience, messaging, and leadership, can quietly transform a business. She reflects on the early jobs that shaped her leadership, the hardest moment of her career during COVID, and what it truly means to show up for people, whether you’re leading a team, serving a guest, or advising a brand. In this episode, we discuss: • Why the menu is the most powerful marketing tool in a restaurant • The hidden role great consultants play behind the scenes • The balance between art and science in restaurant marketing (shoutout Melissa) • Why “showing up” might be the most underrated leadership skill Great businesses, like great relationships, aren’t built all at once. They’re built one joyful moment at a time!

18 Mar 2026 - 41 min
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