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Business Side of Music

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The Business Side of Music podcast features interviews with leading industry professionals and working musicians, offering real-world advice to help artists grow their careers and incomes. Founded by Tom Sabella and Traci Snowe in 2008, the show has a rich legacy of empowering musicians. For many years, the podcast was hosted by Bob Bender, a respected industry veteran known for his work with Ringo Starr, Billy Preston, and Curb Records. Bob's passing in 2023 left a lasting impact, and we continue to honor his legacy. Today, the podcast is hosted by Sarah Fleshner, a music industry professional with over 12 years of experience in artist management, live sound, touring, and business development. As owner of 362 Entertainment, Sarah brings fresh insights while carrying forward the show's mission: pulling back the curtain on the business side of music and helping artists succeed.

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episode The Battle for the Future of Live Music artwork

The Battle for the Future of Live Music

In this episode of Business Side of Music, host Sarah Fleshner sits down with Stephen Parker, Executive Director of the National Independent Venue Association, for an in-depth conversation about the growing controversy surrounding concert industry monopolization, ticketing fees, artist touring control, and the future of independent music venues. From rising ticket prices and restrictive tour routing to venue consolidation and the challenges facing independent artists, this episode breaks down how today’s live music ecosystem impacts musicians, managers, promoters, venues, and fans alike. Stephen explains the ongoing antitrust lawsuit making headlines across the music industry, why independent venues are struggling to survive, and what changes could reshape the future of concert touring. Sarah and Stephen also discuss: * How major concert companies control touring, ticketing, and venue access * Why independent venues are critical for developing artists * The impact of radius clauses and tour restrictions on musicians * The future of concert ticket prices and resale markets * How independent artists can build touring careers outside the major systems * Why artist advocacy and industry transparency matter more than ever If you’re an independent artist, artist manager, venue owner, promoter, music industry professional, or live music fan, this episode gives a behind-the-scenes look at the business of touring and the fight for the future of independent music. To stay in the loop, follow Business Side of Music on social media and subscribe to our newsletter for updates, resources, and new episodes. Follow us: Facebook: @tbsompodcast [https://www.facebook.com/tbsompodcast] Instagram: @bsompodcast [https://www.instagram.com/bsompodcast] TikTok: @bsompodcast [https://www.tiktok.com/@bsompodcast?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc] www.businesssideofmusicpodcast.com [https://businesssideofmusicpodcast.com/] © 362 Entertainment 2026. All rights reserved.

19 May 2026 - 24 min
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Execution Over Perfection: Real Music Industry Leadership for Indie Artists & Managers

In this episode of Business Side of Music, host Sarah Fleshner sits down with artist manager and branding expert Leigh Holt to break down what it really takes to build a sustainable career in today’s music industry. From artist management and tour chaos to leadership, team building, and execution over perfection, this conversation is packed with real-world insights for independent artists, managers, and music entrepreneurs. Leigh shares hard-earned lessons from working with major artists, navigating live events, and surviving industry challenges like COVID—covering topics like how to grow a loyal team, why your word is your currency, and how indie artists can succeed without waiting on a record label. If you’re building a career in music, scaling your brand, or trying to stand out in the independent music scene, this episode delivers actionable strategies on leadership, communication, and long-term success in the music business. To stay in the loop, follow Business Side of Music on social media and subscribe to our newsletter for updates, resources, and new episodes. Follow us: Facebook: @tbsompodcast [https://www.facebook.com/tbsompodcast] Instagram: @bsompodcast [https://www.instagram.com/bsompodcast] TikTok: @bsompodcast [https://www.tiktok.com/@bsompodcast?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc] www.businesssideofmusicpodcast.com [www.businesssideofmusicpodcast.com] © 362 Entertainment 2026. All rights reserved.

28 Apr 2026 - 47 min
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Built to Last (Or Built to Break?)

What does it really take to build a long-term career in the music industry? In this special anniversary solo episode of The Business Side of Music, host Sarah Fleshner reflects on one year behind the mic and dives into the realities of staying in the music business—beyond the highlights, viral moments, and sold-out shows. From artist development to tour life, this episode breaks down the three critical pillars of longevity: * What most people get wrong about success in the music industry * The silent career killers (and how to avoid them) * What actually keeps artists, managers, and teams in the game long-term Sarah shares real-world insight on: * Why it’s always about the fans (not the artist) * How execution beats ideas every time * The importance of communication, leadership, and emotional intelligence * Why your team can make or break your career * And how mental health, boundaries, and balance are essential for longevity Whether you’re an artist, manager, songwriter, or industry professional, this episode is your reminder that success isn’t just about getting in—it’s about staying in. If you’re in the middle of the grind, this one’s for you. To stay in the loop, follow Business Side of Music on social media and subscribe to our newsletter for updates, resources, and new episodes. Follow us: Facebook: @tbsompodcast Instagram: @bsompodcast TikTok: @bsompodcast www.businesssideofmusicpodcast.com© 362 Entertainment 2026. All rights reserved.

14 Apr 2026 - 9 min
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The Business Setup Every Independent Artist Needs

Most independent artists focus on making music and plan to figure out the business side later—but that approach can lead to missed income and unnecessary headaches. In this solo episode of The Business Side of Music, host Sarah Fleshner shares key steps independent artists can take to properly set up the foundation of their music business. Drawing from over a decade of experience in the music industry, Sarah walks through practical things artists should consider early in their careers—from setting up a business structure and separating finances to registering songs and building a direct-to-fan audience. This episode is based on industry experience and perspective, not legal or financial advice, but it offers a clear look at what many successful independent artists do to build sustainable careers. Because while great music gets attention, great business keeps the career alive. Resources: https://www.copyright.gov/registration/performing-arts/ [https://www.copyright.gov/registration/performing-arts/] https://www.362entertainment.com/ [https://www.362entertainment.com/] To stay in the loop, follow Business Side of Music on social media and subscribe to our newsletter for updates, resources, and new episodes.Follow us:Facebook: @tbsompodcastInstagram: @bsompodcastTikTok: @bsompodcastThe Touring Playbook for Independent ArtistsVisit www.businesssideofmusicpodcast.com© 362 Entertainment 2026. All rights reserved.

10 Mar 2026 - 11 min
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