Called to Chaos

Helen's Story of Marriage, Betrayal, Divorce… & Redemption

This week’s episode is a little different… Barbara sits down with Helen to talk through the full story of her and Gary’s relationship — how they met, the early years of marriage, becoming parents young, betrayal on both sides, divorce, heartbreak, shame, and ultimately… reconciliation. This isn’t a polished “perfect marriage” story. It’s honest, messy, painful, redeeming, and full of the ways God can restore what feels completely broken when both people are willing to put Christ back at the center. We truly believe the enemy did not want this episode out. Between recording issues, editing problems, audio glitches, and video inconsistencies, this episode fought us every step of the way… but we kept pushing through because we know someone needs to hear it. So if you notice a few audio or video inconsistencies along the way, just know: this conversation was too important not to share. Whether you’re married, divorced, reconciling, hurting, or wondering if redemption is even possible for your story — this episode is for you.

Ministry, Motherhood, & The Myth of Balance

This week, Helen and Barbara recap celebrating Barbara’s birthday with a visit to The Worthy Co. and dinner afterward, which leads into an important conversation about trafficking awareness and the impact organizations like this are making. Then the conversation shifts into the very real struggle of trying to balance ministry, leadership, marriage, motherhood, family life, and personal health all at the same time. They talk honestly about the pressure women feel to “do it all,” the guilt that comes with constantly feeling pulled in multiple directions, and the realization that maybe perfect balance isn’t actually possible in every season. And to lighten things up a little, they end by discussing what their actual dream Mother’s Day would look like if Sundays, responsibilities, and ministry schedules weren’t part of the equation. It’s honest, relatable, funny in the real-life kind of way, and a conversation that will make every overwhelmed mom feel a little less alone

Life Was Life-ing This Week

This week Helen and Barbara talk about everything from birthday tattoos and weekly chaos, to family overload and what happens when life keeps adding “just one more thing” to your plate. 🫣 Between kids with allergy attacks, broken Chromebooks, promposals, and trying not to completely crash out while everyone needs something at the exact same time… this episode is basically a live look into their mental tabs being open everywhere. It's full of the chaos you've surely come to expect at this point. 🤣

Tears, Tension, & Unhinged Opinions

Helen and Barbara talk about what it looks like to hold a lot at once - grief, big life moments, conflict, and everything in between. Helen shares about finding out her son’s graduation falls on the one-year anniversary of losing her mom, and the tension of celebrating something so big while still carrying deep grief. They talk honestly about what it means to be “strong,” and how sometimes we mistake strength for pushing through instead of actually feeling what’s real. Barbara shares about navigating disagreement in marriage when it comes to decisions for their kids, and how communication, compromise, and working as a team really played out in real life. Somewhere along the way, they also throw in a few hot takes, things that should probably be illegal for moms, and a slightly biased conversation about why women might just be superior 😅 It’s raw, real, and a little unhinged.

A Little Spiraling, A Little Truth, A Little Nostalgia

This week Helen & Barbara get real about what it looks like to have people in your life who love you enough to be honest, even when it’s uncomfortable, and why we actually need that to get unstuck. From there, the conversation shifts into how hard it is to quiet your mind in the middle of busy, overwhelming seasons—and why finding something that’s just for you (yes, even a hobby 😅) actually matters more than we think. And somewhere along the way, they take a turn down memory lane. From talking about music and movies to what it was like growing up without devices, playing outside, using your imagination, and why they wish kids could experience more of that today. It’s real, a little random, but also very relatable.