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Challenger Cities

Podcast by Iain Montgomery

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About Challenger Cities

Iain Montgomery of Now or Never Ventures interviews urbanists, creatives, transit and development types to explore how cities can punch above their weight and create distinctive new futures outside of the tired playbooks.

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episode Challenger Cities EP81: A Chair in the City and a Stool at the Rouge with Ken Greenberg artwork

Challenger Cities EP81: A Chair in the City and a Stool at the Rouge with Ken Greenberg

If you liked our episode with Ilana Altman about The Bentway, then you'll like this one with Ken Greenberg, because he's part of that origin story. Ken is a legend in Toronto urbanism circles, as someone who did pioneering work in his early career in the city and then took it to the likes of St. Paul and Boston in the US. We set up this episode to discuss work he's doing around the newly free'd up airport lands in Pickering, ON and his vision to turn this into a new part of the Rouge National Urban Park. It's a conversation that we hope can breathe life and optimism into the Toronto urban discourse, as many of the components of what Challenger Cities need is right there. It just needs unleashing.

15 May 2026 - 1 h 8 min
episode Challenger Cities EP79: The Best Practice Industrial Complex with Gerald Babel-Sutter artwork

Challenger Cities EP79: The Best Practice Industrial Complex with Gerald Babel-Sutter

Gerald Babel-Sutter is the founder of Urban Future, a 14-year-old event that has grown from a workshop for ten city officials in Graz to a gathering of 2,000 people from 290 cities in 48 countries. The premise hasn't changed: get the actual project managers in a room, not the communications directors, and ask them to talk honestly about what went wrong. In this conversation we cover how a frustrated city official's complaint over a beer became the founding logic of one of Europe's most distinctive urbanism events, why Oslo's deputy mayor told a room full of city planners to never call anything a car-free city centre, what Helsingborg's annual fuck-up of the year award reveals about institutional culture change, and why Istanbul — four religions, sixteen million people, a more open visa regime — is where Urban Future is heading in April 2027. Gerald also makes a case that the knowledge flows in urbanism run almost entirely in the wrong direction, and that who gets a visa to attend whose conference is one of the most consequential questions in the field that nobody is talking about. https://urban-future.org/ [https://urban-future.org/]

5 May 2026 - 53 min
episode Challenger Cities EP78: Saying Yes More with Jen Angel artwork

Challenger Cities EP78: Saying Yes More with Jen Angel

Jen Angel thinks Canada is closer to a moment of triumph in how it builds than it has been in her lifetime. The conditions are there. What's missing is enough people in positions of authority with the permission to say yes. Jen leads Evergreen, the national organisation behind the Brick Works in Toronto and a portfolio of public space projects across the country — from school grounds transformations in Halton and Winnipeg, to a Mi'kmaq Native Friendship Centre-led project in Halifax, to the Toronto ravines programme. Before Evergreen, she ran a Nova Scotia crown corporation that built the Halifax Waterfront, Peggy's Cove and Lunenburg Waterfront, alongside rural broadband and innovation hubs. She also sits on the Canadian Infrastructure Council, the ministerial-appointed arm's-length body writing Canada's first national infrastructure assessment. In this episode we get into: — Why "it's not that much harder to build a good one than a crappy one" might be the most damning line about Canadian infrastructure this year — The permission problem: why no has become the safe answer across our institutions, and what it costs us — Multi-benefit projects, and why our funding model is almost institutionally incapable of recognising them as legible — Why this particular moment — tariffs, geopolitical pressure, a public mood that actually wants things to be tried — might be a generational opportunity — What the East Coast knows about resilience that the rest of the country keeps forgetting — The Evergreen Conference at the Brick Works, May 6–7, theme: Cities Bursting with Life

1 May 2026 - 44 min
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