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Today I'm chatting with Shannon Sauer, a fellow co-author in Reclaiming Mental Health and someone who spent close to two decades navigating what gets called anxiety before she found her way back to herself. Shannon and I get into her chapter and the long arc that shaped it. She talks about being a sensitive, intuitive kid who felt most at home in nature, and how that connection faded as the world took over with jobs, motherhood, and the pressure to always be doing more. We talk honestly about the pharmaceutical road she went down, starting with antidepressants prescribed during postpartum while her father was dying, and the hard reality of how difficult those medications can be to come off of. She shares what brain zaps actually feel like, the years it took to finally grieve, and the experience in 2018 that got labeled a breakdown but felt much more like a spiritual awakening she didn't have language for yet. A big part of our conversation lives in the gap between Western medical labels and lived spiritual experience, and how the two don't always fit. Shannon opens up about her plant medicine journey, how ayahuasca became a catalyst after years of inner work had already prepared the ground, and what it's meant to come off her medications and actually feel joy again. We also talk about the quieter numbing habits that are easy to miss, the importance of who you sit with if you ever explore this path, and the farm in Costa Rica she and her husband just bought. Connect with Shannon: Instagram: shansauer [https://www.instagram.com/shansauer/] Reclaiming Mental Health: https://a.co/d/06r2cm9D [https://a.co/d/06r2cm9D] Costa Rica wellness center: lamatriztica [https://www.instagram.com/lamatriztica/] Connect with Darrel-Lynne: Instagram: @dee_ogsoul [https://www.instagram.com/dee_ogsoul/] Website: ogsoul.ca [http://ogsoul.ca] Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Background 02:56 Childhood Connection to Nature 05:59 Mental Health Journey and Plant Medicine 08:57 Anxiety and Self-Criticism 11:59 Pharmaceuticals and Their Impact 15:02 Spiritual Awakening and Healing 18:07 Navigating Quetiapine and Its Effects 21:00 Understanding Spiritual Awakening 23:55 Holistic Approaches and New Perspectives 29:19 The Intersection of Mental Health and Spirituality 31:59 Understanding Dissonance and Alignment 34:38 Awakening to Clarity and Intuition 40:06 Exploring Plant Medicine Journeys 46:58 Connecting with Nature and the Self 49:26 Exploring the Nature of God and Spirituality 52:51 Technology, Nature, and Spiritual Connection 55:05 Plant Medicine Journeys and Personal Growth 01:01:13 The Importance of Safe Plant Medicine Practices 01:02:37 Transformation Through Spiritual Awakening
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