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Motherhood, Generational Healing & Nature-Based Learning w/ Lindsay Hayes | EP11

51 min · 29. apr. 2026
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Today I'm chatting with Lindsay Hayes, a former public school educator turned nature-based learning facilitator who has spent the last several years doing deep personal work and how that understanding has reshaped her approach to parenting, healing, and working with children. Lindsay and I met through our shared experience writing in Sovereign Volume 2, and this conversation goes to some really tender places. We talk about what it means to move through a victim mindset without bypassing it, how our bodies eventually demand the attention our minds have been avoiding, and why Lindsay left the public education system to create something entirely different on her acreage. She's working with kids from all backgrounds and what she's witnessing out there in nature is transformational. We also get into generational healing in a way that felt very alive for me. Lindsay writes about her mom in her upcoming chapter in Motherhood Expanded, and what she shares about releasing blame while still honoring the impact of her early experiences is something I think a lot of us need to hear. There's so much in this conversation about planting seeds you may never see harvested. Connect with Lindsay Hayes: Instagram: @linsayhayes2.0 [https://www.instagram.com/lindsayhayes2.0/] Motherhood Expanded: https://a.co/d/03Fm0ZWG [https://a.co/d/03Fm0ZWG] Connect with Darrel-Lynne: Instagram: @dee_ogsoul [https://www.instagram.com/dee_ogsoul/] Website: ogsoul.ca [http://ogsoul.ca] Chapters: 00:00 Introduction and Shared Experiences 03:00 The Writing Journey: Sovereign Volume 2 05:57 Motherhood and Personal Growth 09:08 Understanding Childhood and Attachment 11:52 Shifting from Victimhood to Empowerment 15:05 The Impact of Parenting on Personal Healing 18:12 Nature-Based Learning and Education 20:55 Transformational Experiences with Children 24:07 Conclusion and Future Aspirations 25:18 Exploring Diverse Learning Environments 30:39 Motherhood and Healing Through Writing 36:29 Breaking Generational Patterns 41:08 The Impact of Personal Healing on Parenting 48:30 Navigating Systems and Self-Reflection

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Today I'm chatting with Lindsay Hayes, a former public school educator turned nature-based learning facilitator who has spent the last several years doing deep personal work and how that understanding has reshaped her approach to parenting, healing, and working with children. Lindsay and I met through our shared experience writing in Sovereign Volume 2, and this conversation goes to some really tender places. We talk about what it means to move through a victim mindset without bypassing it, how our bodies eventually demand the attention our minds have been avoiding, and why Lindsay left the public education system to create something entirely different on her acreage. She's working with kids from all backgrounds and what she's witnessing out there in nature is transformational. We also get into generational healing in a way that felt very alive for me. Lindsay writes about her mom in her upcoming chapter in Motherhood Expanded, and what she shares about releasing blame while still honoring the impact of her early experiences is something I think a lot of us need to hear. There's so much in this conversation about planting seeds you may never see harvested. Connect with Lindsay Hayes: Instagram: @linsayhayes2.0 [https://www.instagram.com/lindsayhayes2.0/] Motherhood Expanded: https://a.co/d/03Fm0ZWG [https://a.co/d/03Fm0ZWG] Connect with Darrel-Lynne: Instagram: @dee_ogsoul [https://www.instagram.com/dee_ogsoul/] Website: ogsoul.ca [http://ogsoul.ca] Chapters: 00:00 Introduction and Shared Experiences 03:00 The Writing Journey: Sovereign Volume 2 05:57 Motherhood and Personal Growth 09:08 Understanding Childhood and Attachment 11:52 Shifting from Victimhood to Empowerment 15:05 The Impact of Parenting on Personal Healing 18:12 Nature-Based Learning and Education 20:55 Transformational Experiences with Children 24:07 Conclusion and Future Aspirations 25:18 Exploring Diverse Learning Environments 30:39 Motherhood and Healing Through Writing 36:29 Breaking Generational Patterns 41:08 The Impact of Personal Healing on Parenting 48:30 Navigating Systems and Self-Reflection

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