What Really Matters with Dr. John Womack: Patience, Perspective, and Living with Intention

What Really Matters with Dr. John Womack: Patience, Perspective, and Living with Intention

In this episode of Chu on This!, Dr. Katie W. Chu sits down with optometrist, speaker, and longtime colleague Dr. John Womack for a heartfelt conversation about family, gratitude, purpose, personal growth, and the people who shape our lives. Recorded in Atlanta before a professional training event, the conversation follows the show's signature “soft chews and hard chews” format, blending lighthearted stories with meaningful reflections on life's most important lessons. Dr. Womack shares his journey from a small town in Georgia to building a successful career in optometry, while reflecting on the decision that unexpectedly shaped his life the most: returning to Florida after graduation. What seemed like a simple choice at the time ultimately led him to his wife, his family, and much of the life he treasures today. Throughout the conversation, themes of gratitude and appreciation emerge again and again. John speaks openly about the mentors, family members, colleagues, and loved ones who helped him become who he is today, describing how he often feels he is standing on the shoulders of giants. He reflects on the importance of recognizing those influences and making sure the people we care about know how much they matter. Katie shares stories of family traditions, raising daughters, serving an underserved community, and embracing opportunities that once felt intimidating, including becoming a public speaker. Together, they discuss patience, personal growth, accepting differences in the people we love, and the challenge of slowing down in a fast moving world. One particularly moving moment centers on grief and loss as Katie reflects on the passing of her beloved therapist and mentor. The conversation explores faith, gratitude, and the lasting impact people leave on our lives long after they are gone. Warm, reflective, and deeply human, this episode is a reminder that life’s greatest gifts are often the people who guide us, support us, and help us become who we are meant to be.   Key Takeaways We are shaped by the people who invest in us Success is rarely achieved alone. Family, mentors, friends, and colleagues often play a critical role in shaping who we become and the opportunities we pursue. Life changing decisions often seem small in the moment What feels like an ordinary decision can have extraordinary consequences. Sometimes the choices that shape our lives most are the ones we barely recognize at the time. Growth often requires acceptance rather than control Learning to accept circumstances, perspectives, and personalities we cannot change can create greater peace, patience, and fulfillment.   Quotes from the Episode “You stand on the shoulders of giants.” “The easiest decision I ever made in my life was getting back to Florida.” “It’s not up to me to change them, and they shouldn’t be changed.”   About Dr. John Womack Dr. John Womack graduated from the Southern College of Optometry in 2002 and has spent more than 23 years serving patients across the United States. He currently serves as Chief Medical Officer for Family First Vision Care and West Point Optical Group, a role he has held for the past seven years. Through this position, he works with doctors across more than 90 practices spanning 13 states. In addition to his primary care practice work, Dr. Womack has served as a key opinion leader for Bausch + Lomb for over a decade and for LENZ. Outside of optometry, one of John's greatest passions is distance running. He recently completed his 28th marathon in Oklahoma, a race he describes as one of the most meaningful experiences of his running journey outside of the famous Boston Marathon. Throughout his career, he has remained grateful for the opportunities to learn, grow, and work alongside remarkable people, experiences he considers among the greatest gifts of his professional life.   Connect with Dr. John Womack Website: https://familyfirstvisioncare.com/ [https://familyfirstvisioncare.com/] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-womack-od-22605b80/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-womack-od-22605b80/]

The Hidden Reason We Feel Stuck: Leadership Lessons on Growth and Clarity with Dr. Ben Thayil

In this episode of Chu on This!, Dr. Katie W. Chu sits down with optometrist, entrepreneur, leadership strategist, and founder of LeadOD, Dr. Ben Thayil, for a thoughtful and transformative conversation about leadership, purpose, authenticity, and the inner work required for meaningful growth. What begins as a discussion about leadership development quickly evolves into a deeper exploration of personal transformation. Dr. Thayil shares the foundational belief behind his leadership philosophy: true leadership growth starts on the inside. Professional success, business growth, and external achievement can only expand to the level that a person has developed internally. Throughout the conversation, Katie and Ben openly discuss therapy, emotional healing, childhood experiences, and the hidden struggles that often exist beneath outward success. Ben reflects on the realization that many of the barriers limiting his professional growth were not external obstacles, but unresolved personal challenges that required deeper self awareness and intentional work. Katie shares her own journey toward greater authenticity and alignment, reflecting on the freedom that comes from embracing vulnerability and showing up as her true self rather than trying to meet external expectations. Together, they explore topics including burnout, emotional intelligence, parenting, purpose driven work, identity, and the importance of seeing people as individuals rather than positions or titles. They also discuss how healthcare professionals often underestimate the profound impact they have on the lives of their patients. One of the strongest themes throughout the episode is the idea that purpose transforms ordinary work into meaningful service. Whether answering phones, scheduling appointments, caring for patients, leading teams, or raising children, connecting daily actions to a deeper purpose creates greater engagement, fulfillment, and impact. This episode is a powerful reminder that growth begins with self awareness, leadership starts within, and authentic human connection remains one of the greatest gifts we can offer others.   Key Takeaways Leadership growth begins with personal growth Leadership development is ultimately personal development. As people grow internally, their ability to lead, influence, and create meaningful impact naturally expands. Authenticity reduces burnout and creates alignment Maintaining multiple versions of ourselves can be exhausting. Greater authenticity creates clarity, purpose, and sustainable energy. Purpose transforms ordinary work into meaningful service When daily tasks are connected to a larger mission, engagement, fulfillment, and impact increase dramatically.   Quotes from the Episode “Leadership development is personal growth with a title.” “We build better organizations by building better people.” “When we find ourselves stuck externally, it's often because we're stuck internally.”   About Dr. Ben Thayil Dr. Ben Thayil is an optometrist, entrepreneur, and leadership strategist based in South Florida. As the founder of Lifetime Vision & Eye Care and LeadOD, he works at the intersection of healthcare and leadership, helping professionals build organizations that not only perform well, but align with the life they want to live. His work focuses on a challenge many high achievers quietly face: creating external success while feeling fragmented internally. That insight forms the foundation of his upcoming book, Big E Energy, where he introduces an inside out framework for leadership and life. The book challenges traditional ideas about productivity and energy, reframing energy not as hustle or output, but as the strength that comes from alignment. Through coaching, speaking, and leadership development, Dr. Thayil helps leaders move from feeling exhausted and disconnected to becoming focused, resilient, and fully engaged in both life and work.   Connect with Dr. Ben Thayil LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drbenthayil/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/drbenthayil/] Website: http://www.LeadOD.com [http://www.LeadOD.com]

Dr. Jon Crum on Soulmates, Survival, and the Life That Comes After Pain

In this deeply personal and emotional episode of Chu on This!, Dr. Katie W. Chu sits down with longtime friend and optometrist Dr. Jon Crum for a heartfelt conversation about healing, resilience, faith, personal growth, and the unexpected ways life can come full circle. The episode begins with reflections on their shared history, including opening an optometry practice together in Chino Hills in the early 1990s and navigating the difficult realities of an abusive relationship that deeply impacted not only family life, but also the workplace, staff, and patients around them. With honesty and vulnerability, Katie revisits the life changing events of November 1st, 2001, the moment both she and Jon made decisions that ultimately transformed the trajectory of their lives. Katie reflects on leaving an abusive marriage and expresses deep gratitude toward Jon for encouraging her to take the difficult but necessary steps to protect herself and her daughters. From there, the conversation evolves into a thoughtful exploration of healing, identity, and personal growth over time. Both guests reflect on how experiences such as divorce, faith, parenthood, and aging reshape priorities and deepen perspective. Jon shares his excitement about entering a new chapter of life, including finding love again later in life and preparing for a future engagement after enduring a difficult divorce. Katie reflects on redefining herself beyond past trauma, learning to trust her own voice, and embracing a more grounded and authentic approach to life. Throughout the episode, themes of forgiveness, emotional safety, healthy relationships, faith, and second chances are woven together with warmth, humor, and deep mutual respect. This episode is a powerful reminder that healing is possible, growth can emerge from pain, and life can still surprise you with joy, purpose, and meaningful connection, even after the hardest seasons.   Key Takeaways Healing often begins with difficult decisions Both Katie and Jon reflect on the painful but necessary choices required to leave unhealthy situations and create space for healthier futures. Growth changes what we value most Life experience shifts perspective toward emotional safety, faith, authenticity, family, and meaningful connection over external appearances or expectations. Second chances are possible at any stage of life Finding peace, love, and fulfillment is not limited by age or past experiences. Healing and joy can still emerge after life’s hardest chapters.   Quotes from the Episode “I’m living my best life now.” “There’s always that one person out there that you’re destined to be with.” “The only way you move to the next level is to see what wisdom comes from the experience.”   About Dr. Jon Crum Dr. Jon M. Crum is a principal of Crum Optometric Group, Inc. and a stakeholder in Total Vision Holdings, LLC, with more than three decades of experience in optometric leadership and business management. Born in Fullerton, California, Jon attended University of California, Los Angeles, earning a degree in Psychobiology in 1986. He later received his Doctor of Optometry degree from the Southern California College of Optometry in 1990 and has practiced in the same Chino Hills location for more than 33 years. Beyond optometry, Jon is deeply committed to genealogical research and American historical preservation. He is an active member of several lineage based organizations, including the Sons of the American Revolution, the Society of Colonial Wars, the Jamestowne Society, and The Order of the First Families of Maryland. He is also involved with Wreaths Across America and collaborates with the Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum on educational outreach efforts for the America 250 semiquincentennial initiative commemorating the 250th anniversary of American independence.   Connect with Dr. Jon Crum Website https://drjoncrum.com/ [https://drjoncrum.com/]

Why We Do What We Do: Purpose, Patients, and Life’s Defining Moments with Tony Sommer

In this episode of Chu on This!, Dr. Katie W. Chu welcomes back repeat guest Tony Sommer for a thoughtful and deeply personal conversation about authenticity, growth, fear, family, and the wisdom that comes through life experience. Recorded once again in Atlanta, the episode reflects the comfort and familiarity that has developed since their first conversation months earlier. What begins with lighthearted discussions about pollen, travel, and Disney gradually unfolds into a meaningful exploration of identity, grounding, and what it truly means to live authentically. Tony shares his deep connection to the field of myopia management, revealing how his own experience with progressive myopia prevented him from becoming a fighter pilot after attending the Air Force Academy. What initially felt like a personal loss ultimately became the driving force behind his passion for helping clinicians protect children’s vision and future opportunities. The conversation also dives into vulnerability and fear. Tony openly shares his lifelong fear of heights despite serving in the military and becoming a parachutist in an effort to confront that fear directly. Katie reflects on her own journey toward authenticity, explaining how she has stopped trying to remove her conversational quirks and instead embraced simply being herself. Together, they discuss the wisdom that comes from life’s trials, including parenting adult children, healing from childhood trauma, learning patience, and releasing the need to control every outcome. Katie speaks candidly about learning disabilities and the coping mechanisms she developed from childhood experiences, while Tony reflects on the growing importance of family, grounding, and multigenerational connection in his life. Throughout the episode, both return to one central truth: growth does not come from avoiding challenges. It comes from remaining grounded, present, and authentic while moving through them. This episode is a warm, vulnerable, and deeply human reminder that wisdom is not about having everything figured out. It is about continuing to learn, adapt, and show up honestly as yourself.   Key Takeaways Authenticity creates freedom and connection Both Katie and Tony reflect on how embracing quirks, fears, and imperfections creates deeper connection and removes the exhaustion of constantly performing different versions of yourself. Wisdom is built through life experience and reflection Parenting, trauma, career pivots, setbacks, and personal challenges all become opportunities for growth when approached with reflection and openness. Fear does not have to stop action Despite a lifelong fear of heights, Tony became a military parachutist and continues pushing himself outside his comfort zone. Courage is action despite fear, not the absence of it.   Quotes from the Episode “Authenticity is critical… you can’t be different people all the time.” “I’m not late, I’m on time. I’m safe and I’m present.” “The only way you can move to the next level is to see what wisdom comes from the experience.”   About Tony Sommer Tony Sommer brings more than two decades of leadership experience in specialty vision care and medical technology, combining commercial strategy with a deeply purpose driven approach to innovation. Most recently, Tony served as General Manager, Americas, for CooperVision Specialty EyeCare, where he led growth across the United States, Canada, and Latin America while advancing specialty lens adoption and myopia management initiatives. Prior to CooperVision, he served as Senior Vice President of Sales and Marketing at Visioneering Technologies, helping launch and scale the NaturalVue portfolio and build the company’s U.S. commercial infrastructure from the ground up. Earlier in his career, Tony led the U.S. Vision Care Sales organization at Bausch + Lomb, guiding teams through major periods of market transformation and growth. Before entering the eye care industry, Tony served as a U.S. Air Force officer and combat veteran, deploying in support of Operations Desert Storm and Iraqi Freedom. His military experience shaped the leadership philosophy he carries today: mission driven, team focused, and centered on meaningful outcomes. Tony lives near Atlanta, Georgia with his wife and their three children. He continues to advocate globally for access to vision care and for developing the next generation of leaders who serve both patients and purpose.   Connect with Tony Sommer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tsommerjr [https://www.linkedin.com/in/tsommerjr] Latest Project | Treehouse Eyes: https://www.treehouseeyes.com/ [https://www.treehouseeyes.com/]

Faith Beyond the Walls: Purpose, Leadership, and Trusting God’s Direction with Torrian Scott

In this episode of Chu on This!, Dr. Katie W. Chu sits down with executive coach, leadership advisor, minister, and author Torrian Scott for a powerful and deeply faith centered conversation about purpose, identity, leadership, and trusting God through life’s unexpected transitions. Torrian shares his journey from growing up in Houston, Texas, raised by a devoted family despite early hardships, to becoming a leader who has coached CEOs, entrepreneurs, NBA coaches, and business owners around the world. At the center of his story is a lifelong passion for helping people recognize their purpose, develop their potential, and lead with intention. The conversation takes a deeply personal turn as Torrian reflects on one of the biggest shifts of his life, closing the church he pastored for nearly a decade after sensing God redirecting him into a new season. He opens up about wrestling with identity after spending more than 20 years primarily known as “Pastor Torrian,” and learning that titles and positions do not define who he is. Katie shares her own parallel journey, realizing that her optometry practice, podcast, and storytelling work are all forms of ministry beyond the walls of a church. Together, they explore how faith shows up not only in traditional ministry, but also in leadership, business, kindness, healthcare, coaching, and everyday human connection. Throughout the episode, themes of courage, action, and trust are woven into every story. Torrian speaks passionately about the danger of allowing fear, people pleasing, or self doubt to prevent someone from becoming who they were created to be. Both he and Katie reflect on learning to quiet outside noise and fully trust God’s direction, even when the next step feels uncertain. This episode is a powerful reminder that faith is not passive. It requires movement, courage, and the willingness to step boldly into the purpose God has prepared for you.   Key Takeaways Titles and roles do not define identity Stepping away from familiar roles can reveal that identity is rooted in who God says we are, not in titles, positions, or seasons of life. Faith requires action, not just belief Faith is not passive hope. It is moving forward despite uncertainty and trusting God through every step of the process. Purpose is fulfilled through serving others Whether through ministry, business, healthcare, coaching, or storytelling, purpose ultimately comes down to helping people and bringing light into their lives.   Quotes from the Episode “The greatest tragedy is meeting the person you should have been.” “Faith is action. It’s not wishing and hoping.” “Roles don’t define me. Titles don’t define me. God defines me.”   About Torrian Scott Torrian Scott is an executive leadership advisor, speaker, entrepreneur, and faith driven leader with more than 20 years of experience helping leaders and organizations unlock their full potential. As the founder of Mastery Advisory Group and Masters in the Marketplace, Torrian equips executives, entrepreneurs, and high performing leaders to discover purpose, develop their potential, and create meaningful impact through leadership. His work spans corporate, nonprofit, and government sectors, where he coaches decision makers to lead with clarity, conviction, and strategic execution. Torrian is passionate about helping people move beyond fear, embrace purpose, and lead from a place of authenticity, courage, and faith.   Connect with Torrian Scott Website: https://www.torrianscott.com [https://www.torrianscott.com] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/torrianscott [https://www.linkedin.com/in/torrianscott] Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/OfficialTorrianScott [https://www.instagram.com/OfficialTorrianScott] Instagram | Men’s Leadership: https://www.instagram.com/lionsleadinglions [https://www.instagram.com/lionsleadinglions]