How to Protect Your Peace in a High-Conflict Divorce with Karen Covy

Secrets of the Narcissist Mind with Tracy Malone

Are you co-parenting with someone who seems to change the rules, twist reality, and keep you constantly on edge? Divorce is hard enough—but when you’re dealing with manipulation, control, and emotional chaos, it can feel impossible to find your footing. In this episode, Tracy Malone, author and renowned narcissistic abuse recovery coach, breaks down exactly how to protect your peace, support your kids, and reclaim your power in a system that often feels stacked against you. Learn more about Tracy Malone at: https://tracyamalone.com/ [https://tracyamalone.com/] and https://narcissistabusesupport.com [https://narcissistabusesupport.com] Get the BestInterest Coparenting App: https://bestinterest.app/ [https://bestinterest.app/] Other Resources Mentioned: Feel the Fear and Do It Anyway by Susan Jeffers: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0345487427 [https://www.amazon.com/dp/0345487427]  Subscribe to our newsletter to hear about new episodes and build community: https://bestinterest.app/subscribe-podcast/ [https://bestinterest.app/subscribe-podcast/] Watch This Episode: https://youtu.be/1Lm1hG5JQiY [https://youtu.be/1Lm1hG5JQiY] Keywords co-parenting with a narcissist, parallel parenting, high conflict divorce, narcissistic abuse recovery, co-parenting communication, parenting plan strategy, gaslighting and DARVO, emotional regulation for parents, supporting kids through divorce, family court strategies Takeaways * The Teflon Strategy: How to stop absorbing emotional attacks so they don’t derail your day—or your parenting. * Parallel Parenting Reality Check: How to let go of control in the other household while staying grounded and consistent in your own. * The Documentation Filter: What actually matters to track (and what will just drain your energy). * The BIFF Response Method: How to reply to triggering messages without giving your ex ammunition. * The Parenting Plan Power Move: How to build in protections now that save you years of stress (and thousands in legal fees) later. * The Emotional Resilience Toolkit for Kids: How to help your children regulate, process, and stay grounded between two very different homes. Chapters 01:22 – The Wake-Up Call: When “Normal” Isn’t Actually Normal 04:31 – Parallel Parenting: Acceptance or Giving Up Control? 07:13 – The Escalation Phase: What to Expect Before (and During) Divorce 09:06 – Documentation Without Losing Your Sanity 10:46 – The Biggest Early Mistake Most Parents Make 11:27 – Post-Divorce Power Struggles: Money & Control 12:43 – Communication Traps: How They Bait You Into Losing Control 15:05 – The BIFF Method: Responding Without Fueling the Fire 16:00 – Regulating Yourself Before You Respond 17:26 – DARVO, Gaslighting & The Mind Games Explained 19:07 – Supporting Kids in Two Opposite Worlds 20:16 – Why Co-Parenting Can Feel Like an 18-Year Sentence 23:39 – The Parenting Plan That Saves You Years of Court 26:55 – Setting Boundaries Around Communication 27:57 – When Your Ex Lies to Your Kids: What Actually Helps 29:34 – Helping Kids Build Emotional Resilience 33:20 – Signs Your Child Needs Extra Support 36:51 – Peace Starts Here: Letting Go of the Fight 37:13 – A Narcissist’s Favorite Tool 37:28 – What the Legal System Gets Wrong 39:45 – One Thing You Can Do Today to Feel More Empowered 43:22 – Where to Find Tracy Malone What if your co-parent’s toxic messages never even reached you? Thousands of parents are already finding peace with the BestInterest Coparenting App [https://bestinterest.app/beyond]. As a listener, you can too. Claim 40% off an annual subscription here: https://bestinterest.app/beyond

How to Protect Your Peace in a High-Conflict Divorce with Karen Covy

Think family court will give you closure, fairness, or emotional justice? Think again. If you’re walking into divorce expecting the system to make things right, you may be setting yourself up for more frustration, confusion, and costly mistakes. Karen Covy—attorney, divorce coach, and founder of Divorce Road Map—pulls back the curtain on what the legal system actually does (and what it doesn’t), and why so many people feel blindsided by the process. This conversation will help you shift from overwhelmed and reactive to clear, strategic, and in control—so you can protect your peace, your kids, and your future. Learn more about Karen Covy at: https://karencovy.com/ [https://karencovy.com/] Get the BestInterest Coparenting App: https://bestinterest.app/ [https://bestinterest.app/] Subscribe to our newsletter to hear about new episodes and build community: https://bestinterest.app/subscribe-podcast/ [https://bestinterest.app/subscribe-podcast/] Watch This Episode: https://youtu.be/zN6CrfOnZ9k [https://youtu.be/zN6CrfOnZ9k] Takeaways * The CEO Shift: How to take full ownership of your divorce by building a plan, setting priorities, and leading your own “team” instead of relying solely on a lawyer. * The 90% Blindspot: Why the legal system only handles a fraction of what matters—and how to proactively manage the emotional, financial, and parenting realities it ignores. * The Process-First Strategy: How choosing your divorce approach (mediation, litigation, collaborative) before hiring a lawyer can dramatically change your outcome. * The Board of Directors Model: How to assemble the right mix of professionals (coach, therapist, financial expert, etc.) to save money, reduce stress, and make better decisions. * The Boundary Blueprint: How to set and enforce clear, realistic boundaries with a high-conflict ex—without escalating the situation. * The Reality Reset: Why expecting fairness or emotional justice from court keeps you stuck—and what mindset actually leads to peace. Chapters 00:00 The Moment Everything Clicks: Why the Legal System Isn’t Enough 03:34 The Bottom-Up Revolution: Why Change Won’t Come from the Courts 05:58 The Costly Mistake Most People Make Before Hiring a Lawyer 06:58 Stuck in Limbo: How to Decide Whether to Divorce or Stay 07:53 The CEO of Your Divorce: Why No One Else Will Run This for You 10:17 The High-Conflict Reality Check: Stop Expecting a Peaceful Divorce 11:31 Your Divorce “Board of Directors”: Who You Actually Need on Your Team 15:20 Why Divorce Feels So Inefficient (and How to Stay Sane Anyway) 15:32 Overwhelm & Paralysis: How to Start When You Don’t Know What to Do 17:20 The Hidden Cost of Avoiding Conflict 19:12 Boundaries 101: Simple, Not Easy—and Why They Matter Now 22:01 When Your Ex Manipulates the Kids: What Actually Helps 27:00 Boundaries with an Ex: What Works (and What Doesn’t) 29:14 Communication That Doesn’t Backfire with High-Conflict Exes 31:01 Parenting Plans That Actually Hold Up in Real Life 34:20 Reducing Conflict Through Structure and Specificity 36:05 Decision Deadlocks: Who Gets the Final Say? 39:11 The Biggest Lie About Family Court 40:00 Peace Starts When You Stop Trying to Win 41:25 The Word Everyone Misunderstands in Divorce 41:56 Why Court Can’t Give You Justice 42:10 Final Advice: How to Get Through This Without Losing Yourself What if your co-parent’s toxic messages never even reached you? Thousands of parents are already finding peace with the BestInterest Coparenting App [https://bestinterest.app/beyond]. As a listener, you can too. Claim 40% off an annual subscription here: https://bestinterest.app/beyond

Stop Saying Yes: How People-Pleasing Is Sabotaging Your Co-Parenting with Amy Ballantyne

Are you saying “yes” just to keep the peace—while quietly losing yourself in the process? If you feel trapped between avoiding conflict and honoring your own needs, you’re not alone. Amy Ballantyne, executive coach and host of Power to the People Pleasers, breaks down how people-pleasing patterns show up in co-parenting—and how to start setting boundaries without guilt, escalation, or self-abandonment. Learn more about Amy Ballantyne at: https://www.amyballantyne.com/ [https://www.amyballantyne.com/] Get the BestInterest Coparenting App: https://bestinterest.app/ [https://bestinterest.app/] Other Resources Mentioned: • Celebrate Yourself [https://www.amazon.com/dp/1777502764] by Amy Ballantyne • Power to the People Pleasers Podcast [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/power-to-the-people-pleasers/id1654789721] Subscribe to our newsletter to hear about new episodes and build community: https://bestinterest.app/subscribe-podcast/ [https://bestinterest.app/subscribe-podcast/] Watch This Episode: https://youtu.be/hV6YuttGURU [https://youtu.be/hV6YuttGURU] Keywords people pleasing in relationships, co-parenting boundaries, high conflict co-parenting, setting boundaries with ex, self worth and boundaries, people pleaser recovery, communication skills co-parenting, conflict avoidance psychology, parenting after divorce, emotional intelligence parenting Takeaways * The Approval Trap: How early conditioning drives people-pleasing—and shows up in co-parenting communication. * The Boundary Reset: Identify your non-negotiables before the conversation so you don’t default to “yes.” * The “No Without Drama” Method: Use simple, respectful language (even just “no”) without over-explaining. * The Win-Win Lens: Shift from control to collaboration by finding outcomes that work for both parents and kids. * The Self-Worth Link: Why stronger boundaries come from self-love—and how to start building it. * The Pattern Breaker: What your child learns from your boundaries—and how to model healthier dynamics. Chapters 00:00 The People-Pleasing Trap 01:00 From Helper to Coach 02:00 The Approval Pattern in Co-Parenting 03:00 Where People Pleasing Begins 05:00 The Biggest Myth About People Pleasers 06:30 Why Saying No Feels So Hard 08:30 Boundaries vs. Self-Abandonment 10:00 Big Picture vs. Petty Fights 12:00 When Co-Parenting Feels Impossible 13:30 Setting Boundaries That Stick 15:00 How to Say No Without Escalating 17:00 What Kids Learn From Your Patterns 19:00 Teaching Boundaries to Your Child 22:00 The Link Between Self-Worth and Boundaries 23:30 A Simple Self-Love Practice 24:30 Handling Disrespect Without Losing Yourself 27:00 Lightning Round: Boundaries & Self-Respect 31:00 One Step to Start Changing Today What if your co-parent’s toxic messages never even reached you? Thousands of parents are already finding peace with the BestInterest Coparenting App [https://bestinterest.app/beyond]. As a listener, you can too. Claim 40% off an annual subscription here: https://bestinterest.app/beyond

Reclaim Your Authentic Self After Narcissistic Abuse with Dr. Kerry McAvoy, PhD

Why does your ex still live in your head—even after the relationship ends? If you still feel triggered, controlled, or second-guessing yourself, you’re not alone—and you’re not stuck. Dr. Kerry McAvoy, psychologist and host of Breaking Free from Narcissistic Abuse, explains why toxic dynamics become an internal “echo”—and how to quiet it, reclaim your voice, and parent from a grounded, empowered place. Learn more about Dr. Kerry McAvoy, PhD at: https://kerrymcavoyphd.com/ [https://kerrymcavoyphd.com/] Get the BestInterest Coparenting App: https://bestinterest.app/ [https://bestinterest.app/] Other Resources Mentioned: • The Empathy Gap: It’s Black and White [https://www.amazon.com/Empathy-Gap-Black-White/dp/B0FBX86BZ1/] by Tammy Triolo • Breaking Free from Narcissistic Abuse Podcast [https://kerrymcavoyphd.com/breaking-free/] Subscribe to our newsletter to hear about new episodes and build community: https://bestinterest.app/subscribe-podcast/ [https://bestinterest.app/subscribe-podcast/] Watch This Episode: https://youtu.be/iJr0gvv_m-k [https://youtu.be/iJr0gvv_m-k] Keywords co-parenting, trauma recovery, narcissistic abuse, emotional health, boundaries, healing, self-love, family dynamics Takeaways * The “Internal Echo” Shift: How to recognize when your inner critic isn’t actually you—and the simple practice to start separating your voice from theirs. * The Self-Protection Reframe: Why that hypervigilant voice in your head exists (it’s not weakness)—and how to calm it instead of fighting it. * The Authentic Parent Reset: How to stop performing as the “perfect parent” and start showing up as your real, grounded self. * The Courtroom Clarity Strategy: Why family court isn’t about proving abuse—and how understanding this reduces fear and reactivity. * The Emotional Space Practice: How to support your child through a difficult co-parent without badmouthing—and actually build their resilience. * The Conflict Detox Method: How to disengage from toxic communication patterns (without escalating things) and protect your peace. Chapters 00:00 The Hidden Aftermath: Why leaving the relationship doesn’t end the impact 01:00 When the Expert Becomes the Survivor: A psychologist’s personal story 03:30 The “Voice in Your Head” Explained: How toxic partners become internalized 07:30 Survival Mode vs. Empowerment: Why “victim” isn’t the full story 09:30 The Co-Parenting Trap: How fear keeps you stuck even after separation 11:30 The Courtroom Illusion: What family court actually cares about (and what it doesn’t) 13:00 From Reaction to Intention: How to parent from your values instead of fear 16:00 The “Where Are You in the Room?” Exercise (and what it reveals) 19:30 Why “Codependency” might be the wrong frame 22:00 Raising Resilient Kids Through Grief, Loss, and Emotional Truth 26:00 When Your Child Is Hurt by the Other Parent: What actually helps 30:00 The Communication Battlefield: Why toxic co-parents escalate conflict 32:00 How to Stop Feeding the Chaos (and take your power back) 35:00 Lightning Round: Boundaries, self-worth, and reclaiming your life 39:30 The One Question That Starts Your Healing What if your co-parent’s toxic messages never even reached you? Thousands of parents are already finding peace with the BestInterest Coparenting App [https://bestinterest.app/beyond]. As a listener, you can too. Claim 40% off an annual subscription here: https://bestinterest.app/beyond

The Calm Anchor: Navigating the Storm of High-Conflict Divorce with Kirk Martin

Is your anxiety "dumping" all over your kids and fueling the conflict? In this powerful episode, Kirk Martin of the Calm Parenting Podcast joins guest host Louise Love to reveal why your child's "defiance" is often a mirror of your own internal storm. You will walk away with a radical shift in perspective: moving from trying to control an uncooperative co-parent or a strong-willed child to becoming the "calm anchor" that leads your family to peace through your own self-regulation. Learn more about Kirk Martin and the Calm Parenting Podcast at: https://celebratecalm.com/ [https://celebratecalm.com/] Get the BestInterest Coparenting App: https://bestinterest.app/ [https://bestinterest.app/] Subscribe to our newsletter to hear about new episodes and build community: https://bestinterest.app/subscribe-podcast/ [https://bestinterest.app/subscribe-podcast/] Watch This Episode: https://youtu.be/CPZueeikpps [https://youtu.be/CPZueeikpps] Keywords calm parenting, high conflict coparenting, strong-willed child, divorce recovery, emotional regulation, blended family tips, stepparenting advice, de-escalation strategies, generational trauma, BestInterest app Takeaways * The Humility Lead: How to use vulnerability and "sitting on the floor" to invite an apology from your child without ever demanding one. * The "Throw a Bone" Bridge: A specific script to engage an immature or "stubborn" co-parent by focusing on the child's confusion rather than the parent's failings. * The 3-Tradition Anchor: The strategy for creating consistency across two different homes using small, repeatable rituals (like snacks or bedtime stories) to lower a child’s transition anxiety. * The 7-Minute Vent: Why you must give yourself a timed container to be "furious" at your ex so it stops seeping into your parenting in the form of "passive-aggressive arrows." * The Validation Boundary: How to acknowledge your child's anger about the divorce ("Of course you're mad") while simultaneously holding a firm line on respectful behavior. * The Stepparent Sounding Board: Why the "tread lightly" approach builds more authority and trust with teens than jumping in as a disciplinarian. Chapters [01:07] The Son with Boxing Gloves: Why the "My Way or the Highway" approach fails with strong-willed kids. [02:44] The Superhero Wake-Up Call: The heartbreaking moment Kirk realized his anxiety was crushing his son’s spirit. [04:38] Building with Legos: Why humility is more powerful than authority in de-escalating a blow-up. [09:23] The Two-Boss Analogy: Understanding the workplace-style stress kids feel when navigating conflicting household rules. [10:55] Re-Entry Rituals: Using "treasure hunts" and fresh air to help kids transition back to your home. [13:31] Managing the Control Freak: Why your professional success might be sabotaging your parenting and personal peace. [18:21] Dealing with the "I Hate You" Phase: Validating the pain of divorce without losing your household boundaries. [28:30] The "F-You" Response: Why stepparents must tread lightly to avoid being seen as intruders. [33:48] Bracing for Puberty: Why the teenage years might actually be your favorite parenting season. [39:21] The Lightning Round: Fast answers on the biggest lies in parenting and the true definition of a "strong-willed" child. What if your co-parent’s toxic messages never even reached you? Thousands of parents are already finding peace with the BestInterest Coparenting App [https://bestinterest.app/beyond]. As a listener, you can too. Claim 40% off an annual subscription here: https://bestinterest.app/beyond