Robinhood Has 27 Million Accounts. Now It Wants to Bring Them Onchain | Johann Kerbrat

Robinhood Has 27 Million Accounts. Now It Wants to Bring Them Onchain | Johann Kerbrat

Johann Kerbrat is Senior Vice President and General Manager of Robinhood Crypto, where he has led the company's crypto business since 2021. In this episode, Eleanor, Jacquelyn, and Gerald sit down with Johann to discuss Robinhood Chain's explosive start, why memecoins are helping bootstrap liquidity, and how Robinhood plans to bring 27 million accounts onchain. Johann also reflects on building through the SEC's regulation-by-enforcement era, explains why instant settlement could have changed the GameStop saga, and discusses tokenization, stablecoin yield, and prediction markets as some of crypto's biggest opportunities. TIMESTAMPS:  00:00 What Crypto in America Means to Johann 02:56 Robinhood's Crypto Journey and the Regulatory Shift 06:00 The Clarity Act, Global Expansion and Why Europe Came First 09:06 Tokenization, the SEC and the Future of U.S. Markets 11:50 Why Robinhood Is Betting on Perpetual Futures 15:08 Robinhood Chain Launch: Early Metrics and User Adoption 18:01 How Robinhood Chooses DeFi Partners 20:49 Robinhood Chain Strategy: Meme Coins vs. Real World Assets 27:54 Real World Assets, Tokenization and Consumer Adoption 30:08 Financial Education and Building Products for Retail Investors 34:48 Robinhood's Product Philosophy: How New Features Get Built 39:46 Tokenized Stocks and the Future of Global Investing 46:43 Competing with Crypto Exchanges and Wall Street 48:58 The Future of Robinhood: Becoming a Super App 50:40 What Johann Is Watching: Prediction Markets Subscribe to the podcast on Spotify: https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbEtGQ2xhVWpaWUFXM3hsb2VZTTFMWndYWWQ3Z3xBQ3Jtc0trR0t1WWQxOEhkeVBQY2FrNF9VWERtc0xzOVVycE9IT2xkUEtMeGJXY0U5VExBZDc4RVAyRDZWNUhxb293SnRBcFhacEpTVjNxUlRFbExNcXAwSUtCM3h4NGtKbncxZkM1ZnZoRlJlcFVUNVgwUFVWUQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fopen.spotify.com%2Fshow%2F2Y3bQRjEQtdlNx1fxmS8hB%3Fsi%3D813495451b9f4e4e&v=wdm8S4sb5KEhttps://open.spotify.com/show/2Y3bQRjEQtdlNx1fxmS8hB [https://open.spotify.com/show/2Y3bQRjEQtdlNx1fxmS8hB]  Subscribe to the podcast on Apple: https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbTMwbng5NW5ieHhfcnE5Q1ZpMUc5amJ2VGhLQXxBQ3Jtc0tsYVFVNmMtLUNrd0lMTjF3MmQxbXlkZ2ZlUmNJaExucUFYVS1LSEdseTJXYlhVYTA5MFJBd1JfcDg3LVNvdlA0MkhpOXlZVkdDQXlVcWFEZ2ZJMzEtQ0xSZ0I2T1JtODkyR0p6bWtVR0xESTRGbHBMQQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fpodcasts.apple.com%2Fus%2Fpodcast%2Fcrypto-in-america%2Fid1799000155&v=wdm8S4sb5KE https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crypto-in-america/id1799000155 [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crypto-in-america/id1799000155]  Please note that this podcast is for informational purposes only and any views shared by anyone on the show are opinions, not financial advice. The host or guests may have a direct or indirect financial interest in content mentioned in this episode. This show is sponsored by Sei. Learn more about Sei: https://www.sei.io/ [https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbHBVU3dCa0xDaURKWHVsM3VjcTl3ME4wY294Z3xBQ3Jtc0trWk5XX09qNUhsa2JDRmVMemJITWFnck5TaEdtSUp0R0xNX3Foanppa3ZDeENMSUp0ZVczNnM3bVpYa01SSkROSEVnbXVCX2NmSElBYkRxWTFBSm4xQUlzZ09OVFBRSlluakpoVVFkYUF6Y05nV0Y0UQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.sei.io%2F&v=wdm8S4sb5KE] This show is sponsored by Sumsub. 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Strategy's Impact on Bitcoin Risk and dYdX's Rebrand to Arcus as Robinhood Goes Onchain

Today's livestream goes into how Judge Torres, the same judge from the Ripple case, just dealt Kalshi a blow, denying its bid for a preliminary injunction and ruling that New York's gambling laws aren't preempted by federal commodities law. Kalshi is already appealing to the Second Circuit, and Governor Hochul and AG James aren't backing down either. Meanwhile, the SEC drops its 2026 agenda with a real timeline for "Regulation Crypto," Better Markets goes on the attack against a potential SEC nominee, and Paradigm closes a $1.2 billion fund with its eyes on AI and robotics. Plus we bring on Grayscale's Zach Pandl to discuss Strategy and Bitcoin's tail risk, Arcus CEO Eddie Zhang on the dYdX-to-Robinhood evolution, and Offchain Labs' Steven Goldfeder on Robinhood's blockchain and its positive implications for Ethereum.

The Biggest Problem in Tokenization Isn't Technology. It's Trust. | Tom Zschach, Former SWIFT Exec

Tom Zschach is the former Chief Innovation Officer at SWIFT, the financial messaging network that connects more than 11,500 financial institutions across more than 200 countries and underpins trillions of dollars in cross-border financial transactions every day. In this episode, Eleanor, Jacquelyn, and Gerald sit down with Tom to unpack why he believes the long-running narrative that blockchain would "replace SWIFT" always missed the point. After more than three decades in finance at firms including Bank of America, Merrill Lynch, Lehman Brothers, and Barclays, followed by six years leading SWIFT's digital asset strategy, Tom recently left to launch a new venture focused on what he believes is tokenization's biggest remaining challenge: how regulated financial institutions can accept, validate, and scale tokenized assets with trust. TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 What Does Crypto in America Mean to Tom Zschach? 03:31 Why Crypto Isn’t Replacing Finance. It’s Becoming Finance. 07:04 What SWIFT Actually Does (And What It Doesn’t Do) 12:48 Why “We’re Replacing Swift” Was Always the Wrong Pitch 20:16 Inside the Network That Connects 11,500 Financial Institutions 27:50 Why Tokenization Still Hasn't Scaled 31:17 The Missing Piece of Tokenization Nobody Is Solving 45:01 Will the Clarity Act Unlock Tokenization? 46:35 Trust, Not Technology, Is Holding Tokenization Back 48:26 Can Banks Ever Trust AI Agents? 57:48 Tokenization's Impact on Consumers 01:00:18 What's Really Behind the Banks vs. Crypto Battle? 01:02:45 What Tom Is Watching Next Subscribe to the podcast on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2Y3bQRjEQtdlNx1fxmS8hB Subscribe to the podcast on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crypto-in-america/id1799000155 Please note that this podcast is for informational purposes only and any views shared by anyone on the show are opinions, not financial advice. The host or guests may have a direct or indirect financial interest in content mentioned in this episode. This show is sponsored by Sei. Learn more about Sei: https://www.sei.io/ This show is sponsored by Sumsub. Get your copy of its State of the Crypto Industry report: https://sumsub.com/crypto-industry-report-2026/?utm_source=influencer-newsletter&utm_medium=influencer&utm_campaign=crypto-report_report_2026&utm_content=ciahttps://sumsub.com/crypto-industry-report-2026/?utm_source=influencer-newsletter&u[…]fluencer&utm_campaign=crypto-report_report_2026&utm_content=cia%3E Follow Crypto in America: https://x.com/CryptoAmerica_ Follow our hosts Jacquelyn: https://x.com/jacqmelinek Gerald: https://x.com/thatgerald Eleanor: https://x.com/EleanorTerrett

The "Clean Slate" Proposal That Could Rewrite Crypto's Past | Adrian Wall

The best crypto use cases haven't been invented yet according to Adrian Wall, Senior Director of U.S. Policy at Tron DAO and Managing Director of the Digital Sovereignty Alliance. A former finance executive turned crypto policy advocate, Adrian has helped shape some of Washington's biggest digital asset debates, including around the GENIUS and Clarity Acts. In this episode, Adrian breaks down his "Clean Slate" proposal to protect good-faith crypto builders from retroactive liability, explains why Jamie Dimon's reversal on stablecoin yield felt like "a kick in the teeth" after months of negotiations, and why he still believes compromise with the banking industry is the right path. We also discuss the Clarity Act's final hurdles, whether it can still pass the Senate this summer, and why Adrian believes America's biggest crypto breakthroughs won't happen until Washington gets the rules right. TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 What Crypto in America Means to Adrian 02:51 Why Adrian Entered Crypto 05:51 How TradFi's View of Crypto Changed 08:58 The Trust Problem in Crypto 11:49 Is Crypto Policy Finally Working? 14:45 The "Clean Slate" Proposal Explained 17:58 The Stablecoin Yield Fight 21:00 Is the Banking Lobby Slowing Clarity? 23:53 Why Compromise Matters 32:43 GENIUS Implementation: What's Next? 35:13 Can the Clarity Act Still Pass? 39:03 The Final Push on Capitol Hill 45:01 Why TRON Is Investing in Washington 49:50 Bringing Crypto Innovation Back to the U.S. 53:02 Tether, TRON & Washington 56:20 Will Crypto Matter in the Midterms? 1:00:53 Streaming Payments & Crypto's Next Big Use Case Subscribe to the podcast on Spotify: https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbEtGQ2xhVWpaWUFXM3hsb2VZTTFMWndYWWQ3Z3xBQ3Jtc0trR0t1WWQxOEhkeVBQY2FrNF9VWERtc0xzOVVycE9IT2xkUEtMeGJXY0U5VExBZDc4RVAyRDZWNUhxb293SnRBcFhacEpTVjNxUlRFbExNcXAwSUtCM3h4NGtKbncxZkM1ZnZoRlJlcFVUNVgwUFVWUQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fopen.spotify.com%2Fshow%2F2Y3bQRjEQtdlNx1fxmS8hB%3Fsi%3D813495451b9f4e4e&v=wdm8S4sb5KEhttps://open.spotify.com/show/2Y3bQRjEQtdlNx1fxmS8hB [https://open.spotify.com/show/2Y3bQRjEQtdlNx1fxmS8hB]  Subscribe to the podcast on Apple: https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbTMwbng5NW5ieHhfcnE5Q1ZpMUc5amJ2VGhLQXxBQ3Jtc0tsYVFVNmMtLUNrd0lMTjF3MmQxbXlkZ2ZlUmNJaExucUFYVS1LSEdseTJXYlhVYTA5MFJBd1JfcDg3LVNvdlA0MkhpOXlZVkdDQXlVcWFEZ2ZJMzEtQ0xSZ0I2T1JtODkyR0p6bWtVR0xESTRGbHBMQQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fpodcasts.apple.com%2Fus%2Fpodcast%2Fcrypto-in-america%2Fid1799000155&v=wdm8S4sb5KE https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crypto-in-america/id1799000155 [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crypto-in-america/id1799000155]  Please note that this podcast is for informational purposes only and any views shared by anyone on the show are opinions, not financial advice. The host or guests may have a direct or indirect financial interest in content mentioned in this episode. This show is sponsored by Sei. Learn more about Sei: https://www.sei.io/ [https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbHBVU3dCa0xDaURKWHVsM3VjcTl3ME4wY294Z3xBQ3Jtc0trWk5XX09qNUhsa2JDRmVMemJITWFnck5TaEdtSUp0R0xNX3Foanppa3ZDeENMSUp0ZVczNnM3bVpYa01SSkROSEVnbXVCX2NmSElBYkRxWTFBSm4xQUlzZ09OVFBRSlluakpoVVFkYUF6Y05nV0Y0UQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.sei.io%2F&v=wdm8S4sb5KE] This show is sponsored by Sumsub. 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Perps, Policy & Policing Crypto | CME vs. CFTC, Clarity Act & Compliance

This week, we break down the latest market selloff as bitcoin slips below $60,000, Strategy's mounting paper losses, and a wave of crypto industry layoffs. We also examine the escalating legal fight over Illinois' proposed crypto transaction tax, what Congress' summer recess means for pending crypto legislation, and the growing uncertainty surrounding the Clarity Act. Then, we sit down with three expert guests: StarkWare General Counsel Katherine Kirkpatrick Bos to unpack the CME Group's lawsuit against the CFTC over perpetual futures, Sumsub Chief Growth Officer Ilya Brovin to discuss how AI is transforming compliance and fraud prevention, and Connecticut State Police Detective Matt Hogan to provide a front-line perspective on crypto investigations, blockchain policy, and the practical impact of regulation on law enforcement.