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Cameron and I tackled these topics as well as: * The EU AI Act * AI-powered phishing * Scoping ISO 42001 engagements
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Accountability and compliance gaps, transparency, and "human-centered AI"
More AI Backlash and Federal/state regulation
Steve and I connected on: - AI backlash: https://www.the74million.org/article/gen-z-increasingly-skeptical-of-and-angry-about-artificial-intelligence/ [https://www.the74million.org/article/gen-z-increasingly-skeptical-of-and-angry-about-artificial-intelligence/] Federal AI Safety discussions: -- https://www.politico.com/news/2026/05/07/white-house-ai-oversight-00910837 [https://www.politico.com/news/2026/05/07/white-house-ai-oversight-00910837] -- https://www.linkedin.com/posts/allinpod_david-sacks-fda-for-ai-is-fake-news-but-activity-7459311154281103360-atOK [https://www.linkedin.com/posts/allinpod_david-sacks-fda-for-ai-is-fake-news-but-activity-7459311154281103360-atOK] -- https://thehill.com/policy/technology/5866292-white-house-ai-evaluation-process/ [https://thehill.com/policy/technology/5866292-white-house-ai-evaluation-process/] -- https://www.foreignaffairs.com/united-states/right-way-regulate-artificial-intelligence-alondra-nelson [https://www.foreignaffairs.com/united-states/right-way-regulate-artificial-intelligence-alondra-nelson] - Colorado gutting SB-205: https://www.troutmanprivacy.com/2026/05/colorado-legislature-passes-bill-to-repeal-and-replace-colorado-ai-act/ [https://www.troutmanprivacy.com/2026/05/colorado-legislature-passes-bill-to-repeal-and-replace-colorado-ai-act/] - AI Chiefs in the Boardroom: https://www.cnbc.com/2026/05/11/heres-how-artificial-intelligence-is-changing-boardrooms.html [https://www.cnbc.com/2026/05/11/heres-how-artificial-intelligence-is-changing-boardrooms.html]
Aware AI - April 2026
Cameron and I talked about: - How large does a company have to be to recommend ISO 42001? - How do you avoid constant turnover of your AI inventory (you don't)? - What minimum documentation is needed per AI use case? (or before bringing on an AI system or vendor?) - What’s a realistic training and awareness program about AI for non-technical staff? - Are the following over- / under- / properly-hyped? -- Running AI locally -- AI Governance Tools/Platforms -- Model eval benchmarks (SWE‑bench, red‑team scores, "safety" leaderboards) -- “Innovation‑first,” light‑touch approach to AI Governance -- Claude Mythos
ISO 42001 deep dive
I talked with David Forman, CEO of Mastermind. The company is the only pure-play ISO certification body in the U.S. and was the first worldwide to issue an ISO 42001 certificate. We discussed: - Misconceptions (and reality) about the standard - How to scope the AIMS (and audit) - Traveling the world as a founder - Surveillance pricing (side quest)
Audit-ready AI
I spoke with Danny Manimbo, Managing Principal at Schellman, who leads the firm’s AI governance and ISO assurance services. Danny and I talked about: * What firms miss when preparing for ISO 42001 audits. * How they continually improve and what metrics they track. * The role that ultra-marathon running played in Danny’s personal and professional life.
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