The Hannah & Lucy Show | Teaching Freedom of Speech
Freedom of speech. Three words that can empty a staffroom, derail a GCSE lesson and, apparently, start a national news story.
Hannah and Lucy wade into one of the most contested questions in education right now: what does free speech actually mean in a classroom, who gets to define it and why has a GCSE Citizenship textbook ended up making headlines in the press?
A Pearson Edexcel revision guide, used in schools across England including in Norfolk, tells 16-year-old pupils that freedom of speech "should be limited so it protects rights and does not discriminate against others." The Free Speech Union called it wrong in law. Parents complained. Someone photographed the page. The press got involved. The school pointed, quite reasonably, at the exam board. And somewhere in the middle, a perfectly sensible piece of citizenship education became a culture war flashpoint.
Hannah and Lucy pick this apart with their usual blend of honesty, legal curiosity and mild chaos. Lucy goes down a research rabbit hole and emerges with the actual legal framework: Article 10 of the European Convention on Human Rights, the UK Human Rights Act, the EU Charter of Fundamental Rights and the crucial distinction between freedom of speech as a right and freedom of speech as an absolute. Spoiler: it has never been the latter. In UK and European law, free speech is a qualified right, constantly balanced against public order, the rights of others and the prevention of harm. Which is, it turns out, pretty much what the textbook said.
But the bigger conversation is the one happening in schools every single day. How do you teach students to debate controversial topics safely when some of them have been on a Tommy Robinson march? How do you stay politically neutral as a teacher when your moral instincts are pointing firmly in one direction? How do you manage a classroom discussion about online radicalisation and disinformation when the platforms your students are scrolling operate under almost no accountability? And what happens when a pupil invokes their rights every time you ask them to wait for the toilet, because someone has blocked it with a rubber glove?
Do teachers actually have freedom of speech themselves? The answer, by the way, is a fairly firm no.
Hannah draws on her own classroom experience throughout, from facilitating debates on genuinely difficult topics to navigating the moment a colleague casually deployed "boys will be boys" and lived to regret it. There's a sharp thread running through the whole conversation about the difference between having an opinion and having a fact, and why teaching young people to tell those two things apart might be the most important work schools can do right now. Whether the topic is immigration figures, the UK Online Safety Act, the 2024 riots or what legalising drugs would actually mean in practice, both hosts keep returning to the same question: how do you teach civil, evidence-based debate in a world that keeps modelling the opposite?
John, Foz, Paul and the rest of the live audience are in the comments and in full voice throughout with several of their contributions stopping the conversation cold. John's point that patriotism and xenophobia are not the same thing, and his distinction between freedom and licence, are worth the listen on their own.
It gets frank. It gets funny. It doesn't entirely resolve. But as Lucy points out, neither does the topic. JBL is already lined up for a full ethics and morality episode, and it cannot come soon enough.
A wide-ranging, honest conversation about free speech law, teaching controversial topics in the classroom, political neutrality in education, online misinformation, critical thinking, the UK Online Safety Act and what it actually means to give young people a voice without handing them a megaphone and no map.