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Fintech moves fast. But here at Fintech Takes, Alex Johnson and his rotating panel of guests move faster so that you can stay on top of the latest and greatest news in the industry without breaking a sweat.  Welcome to Fintech Takes—the place where fintech’s biggest nerds come to sit back, relax, and completely geek out. Join Alex and a lineup of fintech’s brightest minds as they dissect what’s happening in fintech and banking.  Each week, Alex and his guests recap the most interesting developments in fintech and explore the industry’s most pressing questions, diving headfirst into the intricate workings of some of the industry’s most ground-breaking business models and unpacking the emerging players that promise to shape fintech’s future. From riveting conversations with fintech’s most relevant operators to comprehensive recaps of the month's most compelling news stories and in-depth analyses of the latest regulatory developments, Fintech Takes is your one-stop-shop for navigating the fintech universe. Subscribe now to join fintech’s nerdiest podcast around!

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episode Inside Stripe's Open Standard artwork

Inside Stripe's Open Standard

Welcome back to Fintech Takes. I'm Alex Johnson, joined again by James Wester (co-head of payments research at Javelin Strategy & Research), who I’ve come to think of as our resident stablecoin correspondent to make sense of the biggest stablecoin news of the summer. In July, Stripe organized a consortium called Open Standard, backed by Visa, Mastercard, American Express, and Coinbase, among others, to launch a dollar-backed stablecoin called OUSD. Within days, some of the smaller companies on that list said they hadn't agreed to what was being described. There's still no white paper, nor clarity on governance. So, what’s the Open Standard consortium building? We dig into: * What's confirmed about Open Standard and OUSD, and what's still guesswork * Why this fight is about platform ambition as opposed to stablecoin tech (Circle's site hails itself as "the tech stack for the agentic economy" without mentioning stablecoin; that platform ambition may be why the rest of the payments industry is organizing against it) * Why payments consortiums almost always fail, and what Zelle (one of the rare successes) had that Open Standard currently doesn't * Why nobody's panicking about OUSD the way central bankers panicked over Facebook's Libra in 2019, and what that reveals about stablecoin regulation  Tune in for James's read on whether Open Standard becomes infrastructure or the next entry in the consortium graveyard. --- This episode is brought to you by Ocrolus.  Better lending starts with better intelligence. A borrower's cash flow only tells half the story, so Ocrolus fills in the rest with behavior signals and industry benchmarking. Visit https://www.ocrolus.com/ [https://www.ocrolus.com/] for more.  --- Sign up for Alex’s Fintech Takes newsletter for the latest insightful analysis on fintech trends, along with a heaping pile of pop culture references and copious footnotes. Every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday: https://workweek.com/brand/fintech-takes/ [https://workweek.com/brand/fintech-takes/] And for more exclusive insider content, don’t forget to check out my YouTube page [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJgfH47QEwbQmkQlz1V9rQA/videos]. --- Follow Alex:  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJgfH47QEwbQmkQlz1V9rQA/videos [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJgfH47QEwbQmkQlz1V9rQA/videos] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexhjohnson [https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexhjohnson] X: https://www.twitter.com/AlexH_Johnson [https://www.twitter.com/AlexH_Johnson] Follow James: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/khaslett/https://www.linkedin.com/in/jameswester/ X: https://twitter.com/khasletthttps://x.com/jameswester

29 Jul 2026 - 59 min
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The Rules for Self-Driving Money

Welcome back to Fintech Takes. I'm Alex Johnson, joined by two of my favorite repeat guests: Steve Boms [https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevenboms/] (Executive Director of FDATA North America) and Dan Murphy [https://www.linkedin.com/in/danieljmurphy01/] (Founder of Sunset Park Advisors; formerly CFPB). We set aside Section 1033 for an hour to talk about agentic finance; what happens when AI agents don't just read your financial data, but act on it. First up, the question any skeptical consumer would ask: robo-advisors already exist, so what's new here? Dan's answer took the conversation back further than I expected, to a pre-fintech era of credit counselors, financial advisors, and deposit brokers who worked the phones shopping a client's savings around for a better CD rate. Then, Dan and Steve walk me through a framework from FDATA's forthcoming white paper splitting agentic finance into three layers: read, instruct, and transact. We get into what each layer actually requires on liability, consent, and fiduciary duty, and what the UK, Australia, and Brazil have already built in this space that the US hasn't. We also dig into the use cases that could change someone's day, like an "anti-inertia" tool that moves your savings the moment your bank stops paying a competitive rate. Tune in for a conversation about what it means to give an AI permission to spend your money, and why the rulebook we already have may be more ready for this than anyone expects. FDATA North America published a white paper [https://mcusercontent.com/d62b8c1570b4b45285fbb8f4b/files/e46f523e-ebad-451f-c7de-f5e1b429b5f3/FDATA_Access_to_Action_White_Paper.pdf?hashed_user=8940d6f6521f880a7ba148c1439fbb49] on this exact topic, which you should read here: https://bit.ly/4wiB0a4 [https://bit.ly/4wiB0a4]  --- This episode is brought to you by Ocrolus.  Every small business is different — but most lenders only see a snapshot. Ocrolus gives SMB lenders the cash flow analytics, borrower behavior and peer context to fund more, faster, with confidence. Visit https://www.ocrolus.com/ [https://www.ocrolus.com/] for more.  --- Sign up for Alex’s Fintech Takes newsletter for the latest insightful analysis on fintech trends, along with a heaping pile of pop culture references and copious footnotes. Every Monday and Thursday: https://workweek.com/brand/fintech-takes/ [https://workweek.com/brand/fintech-takes/] And for more exclusive insider content, don’t forget to check out my YouTube page [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJgfH47QEwbQmkQlz1V9rQA/videos]. --- Follow Steve: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevenboms/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevenboms/] Follow Dan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danieljmurphy01/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/danieljmurphy01/]   Follow Alex:  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJgfH47QEwbQmkQlz1V9rQA/videos [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJgfH47QEwbQmkQlz1V9rQA/videos] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexhjohnson [https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexhjohnson] X: https://www.twitter.com/AlexH_Johnson [https://www.twitter.com/AlexH_Johnson]

22 Jul 2026 - 1 h 4 min
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Fintech Takes x TruStage presents Lending, Unbundled Ep 3: Revenue at Stake

Welcome to Lending, Unbundled, a new series from Fintech Takes, sponsored by our friends at TruStage. The series traces how consumer lending went from a single institution that handled everything to a modular value chain of specialized providers, each owning one piece of the loan, and asks what lending, unbundled, has cost the industry along the way. In Episode 3, my cohost Bjoern Nordmann [https://www.linkedin.com/in/bjoernnordmann/] (VP of New Market Development at TruStage) and I sit down with Aditya Khandekar [https://www.linkedin.com/in/adityakhandekar/], CRO of Corridor Platforms, to explore what happens when lending goes modular, but accountability still needs to be end-to-end (not just owned at one point in the loan lifecycle). When a borrower hits hardship, the originator, servicer, and funding source may all have different incentives. But the borrower doesn’t care who technically owns the loan; they blame the brand they can see. That’s why governance can’t sit at the end of the process, waiting to validate what already happened. Aditya’s argument is that governed decisioning can become the connective tissue: a shared evidence layer across acquisition, servicing, delinquency management, compliance, and customer management. Credit risk can move downstream. Reputation risk cannot. --- This episode is brought to you by TruStage. TruStage is a financially strong insurance and financial services provider, built on the philosophy of people helping people, meeting the needs of middle-market consumers and the businesses that serve them since day one.  We believe a brighter financial future should be accessible to everyone, and our products and solutions help people confidently make financial decisions that work for them at every stage of life. Visit https://trustage.com [https://trustage.com/] for more information. --- Sign up for Alex’s Fintech Takes newsletter for the latest insightful analysis on fintech trends, along with a heaping pile of pop culture references and copious footnotes. Every Monday and Thursday: https://workweek.com/brand/fintech-takes/ [https://workweek.com/brand/fintech-takes/] And for more exclusive insider content, don’t forget to check out my YouTube page [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJgfH47QEwbQmkQlz1V9rQA/videos]. Follow Alex:  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJgfH47QEwbQmkQlz1V9rQA/videos [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJgfH47QEwbQmkQlz1V9rQA/videos] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexhjohnson [https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexhjohnson] Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/AlexH_Johnson [https://www.twitter.com/AlexH_Johnson] --- Follow Bjoern: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bjoernnordmann/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/bjoernnordmann/] Follow Aditya: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adityakhandekar/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/adityakhandekar/]

21 Jul 2026 - 51 min
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Retuning the Math of Life

Welcome back to the Fintech Takes podcast. I'm your host, Alex Johnson, and today one of our favorite guests is back: Frank Rotman, founding partner of 37Maru and co-founder and partner emeritus at QED Investors. First, we chat about what happens to an entire industry once its customers have concluded the game is rigged, which is why financial nihilism now shows up everywhere from ETFs built on sports bets to DeFi products costumed as savings accounts. Frank has a theory he calls p(win)=0; once someone concludes their probability of winning is zero, walking away from the game is rational.  From there, we separate the AI use cases ready for prime time from the ones that aren’t. Back office work like AML documentation and exception processing is ripe for automation. A bank chatbot delivering flawless, compliant financial advice is a different proposition. In financial services, 98% accuracy can still equal zero. Finally, we close on student lending, an area where Frank has firsthand experience (having built a student lending company before QED), and firsthand ideas (having spent the better part of a year making the case for reform to the Department of Education and the IRS). His proposal for how the government could build a “truth file" on which degrees pay off is one of the more concrete policy ideas we discuss. Expect a wide-ranging conversation. Frank has a gift for making financial nihilism, AI, and student loan policy sound like one continuous argument, and by the end, I’m convinced that it is. --- This episode is brought to you by Ocrolus.  Every small business is different — but most lenders only see a snapshot. Ocrolus gives SMB lenders the cash flow analytics, borrower behavior and peer context to fund more, faster, with confidence. Visit ⁠https://www.ocrolus.com/⁠ [https://www.ocrolus.com/] for more.  --- Sign up for Alex’s Fintech Takes newsletter for the latest insightful analysis on fintech trends, along with a heaping pile of pop culture references and copious footnotes. Every Monday and Thursday:⁠ https://workweek.com/brand/fintech-takes/⁠ [https://workweek.com/brand/fintech-takes/] And for more exclusive insider content, don’t forget to check out my⁠ YouTube page⁠ [https://www.youtube.com/@FintechTakes]. --- Follow Frank: LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/frank-rotman/⁠ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/frank-rotman/] X: ⁠https://x.com/fintechjunkie⁠ [https://x.com/fintechjunkie]   Follow Alex:  YouTube: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@FintechTakes⁠ [https://www.youtube.com/@FintechTakes] LinkedIn:⁠ https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexhjohnson⁠ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexhjohnson] X:⁠ https://www.twitter.com/AlexH_Johnson⁠ [https://www.twitter.com/AlexH_Johnson]

15 Jul 2026 - 1 h 10 min
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Fintech Takes x TruStage presents Lending, Unbundled Ep 2: The Confidence Gap

Welcome to Lending, Unbundled, a new series from Fintech Takes, sponsored by our friends at TruStage. The series traces how consumer lending went from a single institution that handled everything to a modular value chain of specialized providers, each owning one piece of the loan, and asks what lending, unbundled, has cost the industry along the way. In Episode 2, my cohost Bjoern Nordmann (VP of New Market Development at TruStage) and I sit down with Taylor Nelms [https://www.linkedin.com/in/taylor-nelms/], VP of Research & Insights at the Financial Health Network to untangle why consumer confidence is sitting about as low as it's ever been on record, Financial health challenges show up across the income spectrum, driven by volatility on both sides of the household ledger: 7 in 10 households report a significant unexpected expense each year, and recent labor market research shows unpredictable income is now the norm for most workers (not just those with unpredictable hours).  As Taylor puts it, the job of a lender isn't just extending credit. It's selling certainty against volatility. — This episode is brought to you by TruStage. TruStage is a financially strong insurance and financial services provider, built on the philosophy of people helping people, meeting the needs of middle-market consumers and the businesses that serve them since day one.  We believe a brighter financial future should be accessible to everyone, and our products and solutions help people confidently make financial decisions that work for them at every stage of life. Visit ⁠https://trustage.com⁠ [https://trustage.com/] for more information. --- Sign up for Alex’s Fintech Takes newsletter for the latest insightful analysis on fintech trends, along with a heaping pile of pop culture references and copious footnotes. Every Monday and Thursday:⁠ https://workweek.com/brand/fintech-takes/⁠ [https://workweek.com/brand/fintech-takes/] And for more exclusive insider content, don’t forget to check out my⁠ YouTube page⁠ [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJgfH47QEwbQmkQlz1V9rQA/videos]. --- Follow Bjoern on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bjoernnordmann/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/bjoernnordmann/] Follow Taylor on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/taylor-nelms/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/taylor-nelms/]  Follow Alex:  YouTube:⁠ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJgfH47QEwbQmkQlz1V9rQA/videos⁠ [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJgfH47QEwbQmkQlz1V9rQA/videos] LinkedIn:⁠ https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexhjohnson⁠ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexhjohnson] Twitter:⁠ https://www.twitter.com/AlexH_Johnson [https://www.twitter.com/AlexH_Johnson]

14 Jul 2026 - 56 min
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