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Grit & Grain Podcast

Podcast by Matthew, Bethany, and Ron

English

Culture & leisure

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About Grit & Grain Podcast

Craft beer sales and brand manager — Matt McLaren, professional brewer and line cleaner — Bethany Carlsen, and bottle shop owner and operator — Ron Swarner explore and celebrate the craft beer industry, community, and history in Tacoma, Washington, and surrounding Pacific Northwest region.

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100 episodes

episode Episode 190: Shouldering the Weight of Limitless Talent with Grains of Wrath artwork

Episode 190: Shouldering the Weight of Limitless Talent with Grains of Wrath

Way back when our episodes were still in the double digits, the stellar brewing talent Mike Hunsaker sat down to tell us about his journey setting up shop in Washington and winning every award in the book brewing at Grains of Wrath [https://gowbeer.com/]. We’ve been long overdue in getting the rest of the Grains of Wrath team behind the mic and thankfully they were in town and made it a point to swing by and hang for a beer!  Owner and operator Brendan Greenan, Production Manager Owen Lamb, and Sales Manager Kira Harris joined us this week to talk about everything they’ve been doing to push the brewery to the next level. Tune in to find out how the GoW team is maintaining demand in a tough market, how a few new key team members will help level up their brewery, and why Mike is mysteriously absent for this episode! Tap, tap, tap Alright, Grit & Grainers! Please email us at cheers@gritandgrainpodcast.com [cheers@gritandgrainpodcast.com] with your comments and opinions. You can subscribe to GGP on YouTube, Amazon, Apple Music, Spotify, Google Play, and iHeartRadio, and please leave us a review. Be sure to also follow us on Facebook [https://www.facebook.com/gritandgrainpodcast/] and Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/peaksandpints/]. If this podcast is not what you expected, please alter your expectations. No such thing as a bad time to visit Tacoma. No such thing as too much barleywine. Tune in next Friday for more sweet chatter. Cheers! The post Episode 190: Shouldering the Weight of Limitless Talent with Grains of Wrath [https://gritandgrainpodcast.com/episode-190-shouldering-the-weight-of-limitless-talent-with-grains-of-wrath/] appeared first on Grit & Grain Podcast [https://gritandgrainpodcast.com].

22 May 2026 - 57 min
episode Episode 189: Real Ale with Michael Messenie from Dutchess Ales artwork

Episode 189: Real Ale with Michael Messenie from Dutchess Ales

Happy Seattle Beer Week! A bunch of amazing brewers and beer folks have converged on Seattle this week to celebrate all things beer.  We took advantage and dragged Michael Messenie down for a quick pod to talk all things cask, English brewing traditions, and recipe tweaking. Michael started Dutchess Ales to bring the balanced, refined English beer he loved to New York, where he lived. It quickly grew into a much bigger project, and now he hops all over the country spreading the gospel of real ale. Tune in to hear about his approach to complex grain bills, secretly hand-delivering firkins to NYC’s only beer engine bars, and some of his favorite English pubs, should you ever visit. Tap, tap, tap Alright, Grit & Grainers! Please email us at cheers@gritandgrainpodcast.com [cheers@gritandgrainpodcast.com] with your comments, opinions, and favorite cask ale. You can subscribe to GGP on YouTube, Amazon, Apple Music, Spotify, Google Play, and iHeartRadio, and please leave us a review. Be sure to also follow us on Facebook [https://www.facebook.com/gritandgrainpodcast/] and Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/peaksandpints/]. If this podcast is not what you expected, please alter your expectations. No such thing as a bad time to visit Tacoma. No such thing as too much barleywine. Tune in next Friday for more sweet chatter. Cheers! The post Episode 189: Real Ale with Michael Messenie from Dutchess Ales  [https://gritandgrainpodcast.com/episode-189-real-ale-with-michael-messenie-from-dutchess-ales/] appeared first on Grit & Grain Podcast [https://gritandgrainpodcast.com].

15 May 2026 - 56 min
episode Episode 188: May the 4th Be With You: A New Vice artwork

Episode 188: May the 4th Be With You: A New Vice

Happy Cinco de Mayo / May the 4th week! Owners and operators of Vice Beer [https://vicebeer.mmm.page/], Michael and Bria Perozzo are in the house! We are flush with Star Wars-themed beers, and we just couldn’t wait to bring the Tournament of Beer Best PNW Breweries [https://www.peaksandpints.com/peaks-pints-tournament-of-beer-best-pnw-breweries-winner-and-recap/] champion onto the pod.  Round after round of single-digit victories led Vice to the top spot of Peaks & Pints [https://www.peaksandpints.com/]‘ 10th iteration of their famous bracket event.  Fresh off the podium, Vice leaned straight into their yearly Star Wars-themed beer releases with seven new beers. Tune in for the tourney recap, all the info you need to pick out the best Star Wars beer for you, and we even get some extra special news about the new brewer joining the Vice team. Tap, tap, tap Alright, Grit & Grainers! Please email us at cheers@gritandgrainpodcast.com [cheers@gritandgrainpodcast.com] with your comments, opinions, and Jar Jar Binksberry recipe suggestions. You can subscribe to GGP on YouTube, Amazon, Apple Music, Spotify, Google Play, and iHeartRadio, and please leave us a review. Be sure to also follow us on Facebook [https://www.facebook.com/gritandgrainpodcast/] and Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/peaksandpints/]. If this podcast is not what you expected, please alter your expectations. No such thing as a bad time to visit Tacoma. No such thing as too much barleywine. Tune in next Friday for more sweet chatter. Cheers! The post Episode 188: May the 4th Be With You: A New Vice  [https://gritandgrainpodcast.com/episode-188-may-the-4th-be-with-you-a-new-vice/] appeared first on Grit & Grain Podcast [https://gritandgrainpodcast.com].

8 May 2026 - 1 h 0 min
episode Episode 187: Berlin, Ron’s Road Trip, and American Beer Economics artwork

Episode 187: Berlin, Ron’s Road Trip, and American Beer Economics

Matt’s back from Berlin!  He was gone so long and missed so much that we figured we might as well just crack a few beers and catch up a bit. Ron’s been busy traveling all over the PNW trying to hire as many breweries as he possibly can to wrap up his 10th year of the Tournament of Beers [https://www.peaksandpints.com/tag/tournament-of-beer-best-pnw-breweries/]. Matt fills us in on his Berlin trip. And Bethany and The Funk Busters [https://thefunkbusters.com/] have some updates of their own! Plus, we get into the recent Brewer’s Association [https://www.brewersassociation.org/] Annual Craft Beer Production report and what it says about where things might be headed in the industry. Tune in for all the updates, some of Matt’s Germany stories, and to get a few highlights and early upsets in the Tournament of Beer! Tap, tap, tap Alright, Grit & Grainers! Please email us at cheers@gritandgrainpodcast.com [cheers@gritandgrainpodcast.com] with your comments, opinions, and favorite Pacific Northwest brewery. You can subscribe to GGP on YouTube, Amazon, Apple Music, Spotify, Google Play, and iHeartRadio, and please leave us a review. Be sure to also follow us on Facebook [https://www.facebook.com/gritandgrainpodcast/] and Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/peaksandpints/]. If this podcast is not what you expected, please alter your expectations. No such thing as a bad time to visit Tacoma. No such thing as too much barleywine. Tune in next Friday for more sweet chatter. Cheers! The post Episode 187: Berlin, Ron’s Road Trip, and American Beer Economics [https://gritandgrainpodcast.com/episode-187-berlin-rons-road-trip-and-american-beer-economics/] appeared first on Grit & Grain Podcast [https://gritandgrainpodcast.com].

24 Apr 2026 - 59 min
episode Episode 186: Dan Cady and Meghan Michels from Holy Mountain Brewing artwork

Episode 186: Dan Cady and Meghan Michels from Holy Mountain Brewing

Matt’s still in Germany, and Ron, Bethany, Phaedra, and Doug held down the fort beautifully for this week’s super special episode. We are joined this week by one of the strongest brewing duos working the state right now — Dan Cady and Meghan Michels of Holy Mountain Brewing [https://holymountainbrewing.com/].  Dan, having recently moved back up to Washington after years of brewing some of San Diego’s best beer, got rolling at Holy Mountain just a few months ago, where Meghan has been holding down the fort for the last few years, producing some of Seattle’s best beer. Tune in to find out a little about Dan’s unexpected hometown, his work down in California, which Seattle brewery Meghan cut her teeth at before Holy Mountain, and what it takes to become a certified LUKR tapster. Tap, tap, tap Alright, Grit & Grainers! Please email us at cheers@gritandgrainpodcast.com [cheers@gritandgrainpodcast.com] with your comments, opinions, and favorite Danish beer. You can subscribe to GGP on YouTube, Amazon, Apple Music, Spotify, Google Play, and iHeartRadio, and please leave us a review. Be sure to also follow us on Facebook [https://www.facebook.com/gritandgrainpodcast/] and Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/peaksandpints/]. If this podcast is not what you expected, please alter your expectations. No such thing as a bad time to visit Tacoma. No such thing as too much barleywine. Tune in next Friday for more sweet chatter. Cheers! The post Episode 186: Dan Cady and Meghan Michels from Holy Mountain Brewing [https://gritandgrainpodcast.com/episode-186-dan-cady-and-meghan-michels-from-holy-mountain-brewin/] appeared first on Grit & Grain Podcast [https://gritandgrainpodcast.com].

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