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He Said, Son Said

Podcast by Matt Haverkamp

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About He Said, Son Said

He Said, Son Said is a weekly father-son sports podcast where two generations go head-to-head on the hottest topics in sports and explore how the games we love shape the bonds we share. From NFL and NBA debates to fantasy heartbreaks, bold predictions, and nostalgic throwbacks, Matt and Nash bring humor, honesty, and heart to every conversation. Beyond their own banter, they also sit down with other dads and kids to talk about how sports have shaped their relationships — the lessons learned, the laughs shared, and the memories that last far beyond the final score.

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8 episodes

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Episode 8 - Different Paths Same Fairway

In this episode of He Said, Son Said, Matt and Nash are joined by George and William Linney for a conversation centered around growth, discipline, and the unique bond between a father and son through sports. William shares his journey of becoming a scratch golfer during COVID—what started as extra time turned into a relentless pursuit of improvement. From daily routines to breakthrough moments, he walks through what it really takes to elevate your game. George provides the other side of the story—what it’s like to watch your child push toward excellence, how to support without overwhelming, and how their relationship has evolved along the way. This episode covers: * The path from multi-sport athlete to focused competitor * The unseen work behind becoming elite * Handling failure, pressure, and expectations * Parenting through competitive sports * How sports can deepen family relationships Plus, a fun lightning round to close things out. Whether you're an athlete, parent, or sports fan, this episode is about more than golf—it’s about mindset, growth, and connection.

16 May 2026 - 36 min
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Episode 5 - Quitter’s Day: When Athletes Quit Loud (and We Don’t)

Welcome to Episode 5 of He Said, Son Said, a father-son sports podcast where two generations debate sports, culture, and perspective — and somehow still like each other at the end. Using Quitter’s Day as the theme, we kick off with Two Takes, Five Picks, breaking down some of the most unforgettable ways athletes have quit their teams. Next, it’s Man vs Machine as we preview the College Football Playoff Semifinals, pitting gut instinct against data-driven picks. We close with a thoughtful Family Huddle, discussing when quitting might actually be the right move, why “reset” may be a better word, and how so many players thrive only after their original teams quit on them. Sports debates with perspective — this is He Said, Son Said.

19 Jan 2026 - 16 min
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Episode 4 - Wishes. Returns. Perspective.

It’s New Year’s Day, and on He Said, Son Said, that means reflection, returns, and looking ahead. In this episode, Matt and Nash kick off the new year with ... The 12 Days of the New Year — twelve wishes, predictions, and bold takes they’re putting out into the sports universe. From making the Monday after the Super Bowl a national holiday, to Hurricanes Cup dreams, UNC tournament hopes, Panthers playoff aspirations, and a wish that would officially mean they’ve made it, nothing is off the table. They also open the return window with Two Takes, Five Picks: Returns, where both hosts exchange or return some of the biggest things they wish sports would do differently — from coaching comebacks and trades they’d redo to rule changes, NBA courts, and Christmas Day football. The episode closes with a heartfelt Family Huddle, reflecting on what made the past year special, what they’re leaving behind, and why perspective — in sports and in life — matters as the new year begins.

5 Jan 2026 - 20 min
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