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Holding It Both Ways

Podcast by A podcast for leaders holding paradox—humanity and strategy.

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For leaders navigating the in-between—where inclusion, identity, and impact meet. Through real human stories and lived experience, each episode offers reflections and insights to help you lead with greater depth, courage, and care. fortlage.substack.com

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Cynthia shared her personal journey of growing up in Northern Ireland and later moving to Canada, reflecting on how both privilege and oppression shaped her leadership journey through various transitions. She discussed her spiritual and gender transitions, which broadened her perspective and deepened her empathy and courage, leading her to explore leadership in diverse contexts. Through her experiences across countries, religions, and careers, Cynthia has developed unique insights into leadership and inclusion, working with organizations to help leaders create workplaces of real belonging. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit fortlage.substack.com [https://fortlage.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1]

5 Dec 2025 - 5 min
episode Communicating Belonging at Work, our guest Heera Rehman artwork

Communicating Belonging at Work, our guest Heera Rehman

In this conversation, Cynthia speaks with tech founder Heera Rehman, who spent a decade leading internal communications for large, global companies before launching WorldTone AI. Together, they explore the heart of inclusive, people-first communication in rapidly shifting workplaces. Heera shares how aligning messaging with values builds trust, why diversity storytelling should not be seasonal, and how emerging technology can support rather than replace humanity in today’s leadership. From finding your voice as a communicator to building tools that elevate belonging, this episode offers practical insight for leaders and communicators who want to create messaging that respects people and reflects reality. Duration [TBC] Key Takeaways • Communication shapes culture long before strategies appear on paper.• Values are anchors for leaders and communicators during uncertainty.• Inclusion cannot rely only on big moments like International Women’s Day.• Technology can strengthen voice and clarity when used with purpose.• Accessible language builds trust and avoids unintentional exclusion.• Leaders must ask who is missing or unheard when they communicate. “Technology should amplify human connection, not replace it.” - Heera Rehman Guest Bio:Heera Rehman is a London-raised tech founder with more than ten years’ experience in global internal communications. She has led comms across multiple industries for workforces of over 10,000 employees. Heera founded WorldTone AI, a smart platform that helps organisations plan, draft, and measure inclusive, people-first communication that stays true to brand voice. Resources Mentioned • WorldTone AI website: https://www.worldtone.ai/ [https://www.worldtone.ai/] If you enjoyed this episode, follow the show, leave a review, and share with someone shaping workplace culture. Connect with Cynthia on LinkedIn and explore WorldTone AI to elevate inclusive communication in your organisation. #AcceptanceWithoutUnderstanding #InclusiveLeadership #InternalCommunications #AIForGood This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit fortlage.substack.com [https://fortlage.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1]

26 Nov 2025 - 49 min
episode If we practised emotional intelligence like a skill, what would change at work? Our guest Amanda Davie artwork

If we practised emotional intelligence like a skill, what would change at work? Our guest Amanda Davie

In this episode, Amanda Davie and Cynthia get specific about treating emotional intelligence as a skill you practise, not a trait you either have or lack. We talk about coaching moves any leader can use this week, the inclusive norms that make collaboration work, and how communities accelerate careers. Amanda shares lessons from co‑leading Equal Talent, building She Has No Limits, and coaching inside high‑growth, high‑pressure environments. Cynthia layers in Acceptance Without Understanding and the 4P Catalyst Framework to turn values into daily behaviours. You will leave with simple rituals for meetings, feedback, and decisions that grow trust and results. Key Takeaways * Emotional intelligence is trainable. Practise it through check‑ins, clean questions, and thoughtful closures. * Inclusion shows up in repeatable norms: how we meet, decide, and follow up. * Coaching skills for leaders: listen with curiosity, ask one clean question, and agree on one clear next step. * Community compounds growth. Mentors, peer circles, and alumni spaces create belonging and momentum. * Do not fix women, fix systems. Remove bias, increase access, and design support that makes progress possible. Guest Bio Amanda Davie is an executive and leadership coach, consultant, and co‑CEO of Equal Talent, specialising in developing emotionally intelligent, inclusive, and collaborative leaders and cultures. A former digital media entrepreneur and founder, she now works with global organisations, start‑ups, and communities to make the world of work fairer, more inclusive, and more rewarding for everyone. What you will learn: * How to practise emotional intelligence in everyday leadership * Simple meeting rituals, decision clarity, and feedback habits * One‑question coaching moves that any manager can use * How communities like She Has No Limits accelerate careers Resources Mentioned * Equal Talent — coaching company co‑led by Amanda * EqualTalent.com * She Has No Limits — community for professional women * https://www.linkedin.com/groups/13058022/ * The Coach House — coach training faculty * https://thecoachhouse.ltd/ Leaders who want to explore mentoring and culture change, book time with Cynthia: https://calendly.com/cynthiafortlage/30min. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit fortlage.substack.com [https://fortlage.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1]

12 Nov 2025 - 53 min
episode If Not Now, When? Clarity, Courage & Simple Systems with Jeanne Omlor artwork

If Not Now, When? Clarity, Courage & Simple Systems with Jeanne Omlor

Jeanne Omlor joins Cynthia for a straight‑talk conversation about moving from hesitation to action. We explore how to build a values‑aligned business (or team) by choosing clarity over complexity, getting crystal‑clear on the offer, who it serves, and the result it creates—and then using simple, repeatable systems you will actually stick to. Jeanne shares candid lessons from building online after previous offline success, the mindset shift behind her mantra “if not now, when?”, and why service‑led selling beats performative hustle. You will leave with practical prompts to make decisions faster, reduce friction in your workflow, and lead with courage instead of delay. Key Takeaways -Clarity before complexity: define your offer, audience, and promised result. - Decision beats delay: small, consistent actions outpace waiting for perfect conditions. - Keep systems simple: use tools and rhythms you will actually maintain. - Lead with service: ethical, value‑driven selling builds trust and results. - Stories > slogans: real client outcomes anchor credibility. - Courage is a practice: notice fear, act anyway, and iterate. “If not now, when?” — Jeanne Omlor Guest Bio: Jeanne Omlor is a Business Strategist, multi 7-Figure Online Business Coach, and Certified Servant Leadership Executive Coach. At 54 years old, she was a solo parent in deep debt and got herself online and to $1M in 17 months, without ads, and has since scaled to multi-millions in 5 years. Her company has helped almost 600 businesses to thrive online. She is emotionally connected to helping others prosper, as she lived in lack for years and overcame that mindset. She is now helping as many people as she can to maximise profits and reach their full potential while being the visionary they're destined to be https://jeanneomlor.com/reviews/ [https://jeanneomlor.com/reviews/]https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeanneomlor [https://jeanneomlor.com/reviews/]https://www.facebook.com/jeanneomlor/ [https://jeanneomlor.com/reviews/] Cynthia: Cynthia Fortlage (she/her) is a C-suite executive turned global inclusion and leadership advisor, speaker, and writer. She has delivered 500+ engagements across 30+ countries and partners with organisations to embed inclusive leadership, psychological safety, and practical culture change. Her work blends data, strategy, and lived experience as a trans woman to equip leaders with usable tools, not slogans. Cynthia hosts the podcast Holding It Both Ways and leads The FORTLAGE Collective, offering keynotes, mentoring, and advisory support on culture, inclusion, and change. www.cynthiafortlage.com [http://www.cynthiafortlage.com] LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/cfortlage Substack (Holding It Both Ways). https://fortlage.substack.com Podcast feed:Apple - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/holding-it-both-ways/id1827477002 [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/holding-it-both-ways/id1827477002] Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/1ux7IIJ5b3TwAJfNRNEnlv [https://open.spotify.com/show/1ux7IIJ5b3TwAJfNRNEnlv] YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLsRnX1k-_AfPsVN9ZZO2m_5y589ogeF5u [https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLsRnX1k-_AfPsVN9ZZO2m_5y589ogeF5u] Share this with a founder or leader who is stuck in “waiting for perfect.” Want help turning values into practice? Book time with Cynthia: https://calendly.com/cynthiafortlage/30min [https://calendly.com/cynthiafortlage/30min]. Subscribe and leave a short review—it really helps others find the show. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit fortlage.substack.com [https://fortlage.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1]

2 Oct 2025 - 45 min
episode Small Teams, Big Culture — Leading Well in SMEs (with Heather McDaniel) artwork

Small Teams, Big Culture — Leading Well in SMEs (with Heather McDaniel)

SMEs run hot: fewer people, faster decisions, and almost no safety net. In this conversation, Heather McDaniel shares how small and medium enterprises can build strong cultures without big‑company budgets. We explore the realities of “trial‑by‑fire” leadership, what to do when training is thin, and how deep listening and clear practices create psychological safety on small teams. Heather traces her journey from the U.S. to Spain and why she founded the Life Love Leadership Project, plus a client story that shows culture change in action. Leaders will leave with practical ways to steady teams in uncertainty, replace performative overwork with presence, and embed inclusive habits that scale. Key Takeaways SMEs have unique constraints—design lightweight practices that fit reality, not theory. Without formal training, leaders learn in real time; give them simple tools and peer support. Deep listening is a leadership practice: it builds trust, clarity, and better decisions. Safety nets matter in small teams—norms and check‑ins reduce reactivity and burnout. Inclusion scales through habits (how we meet, decide, and follow up), not slogans. Founder/owner context shapes culture—name it, then build shared leadership. “Leaders tend to learn trial‑by‑fire—real time, without a safety net.” — Heather McDaniel About Heather McDaniel: Heather McDaniel is the founder of the Life Love Leadership Project and a keynote speaker, facilitator, and writer whose work sits at the intersection of leadership, resilience, and transformation. She’s spent her career helping people and organisations navigate change from the inside out through presence and the courage to lead themselves first.Heather specialises in working with small and medium-sized enterprises, where leadership decisions ripple quickly through culture and performance. She brings a deeply human lens to her work, shaped by her own journey of rebuilding abroad in Valencia, Spain, and her conviction that real leadership is less about control and more about creating the conditions where people can thrive.Her signature framework, the REBEL Method, guides leaders through reflection, breaking old patterns, and evolving into values-led leadership. Whether in workshops, retreats, or keynotes, Heather is committed to helping leaders hold steady in uncertain times and build futures rooted in integrity, resilience, and joy. Contact Heather: email: heather@heathermcdaniel.com [heather@heathermcdaniel.com] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/heathermcdanielcreative [https://www.linkedin.com/in/heathermcdanielcreative?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3BS6h2q9XVTMCzzYV4FNp4vA%3D%3D] About Cynthia Fortlage: Cynthia Fortlage (she/her) is a C-suite executive turned global inclusion and leadership advisor, speaker, and writer. She has delivered 500+ engagements across 30+ countries and partners with organisations to embed inclusive leadership, psychological safety, and practical culture change. Her work blends data, strategy, and lived experience as a trans woman to equip leaders with usable tools, not slogans. Cynthia hosts the podcast Holding It Both Ways and leads The FORTLAGE Collective, offering keynotes, mentoring, and advisory support on culture, inclusion, and change. LinksWebsite: www.cynthiafortlage.com [http://www.cynthiafortlage.com]Booking: https://calendly.com/cynthiafortlage/30min [https://calendly.com/cynthiafortlage/30min]LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/cfortlage [https://linkedin.com/in/cfortlage] This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit fortlage.substack.com [https://fortlage.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1]

18 Sep 2025 - 41 min
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