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Idaho Outfitters and Guides

Podcast by Erik Weiseth

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Regular updates on the issues and events that matter to Outfitters and guides in the Idaho.

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episode Clearing the Way: Chainsaws, the Frank, and the Fight for Wilderness Access artwork

Clearing the Way: Chainsaws, the Frank, and the Fight for Wilderness Access

Erik and Jack kick off with river season updates before diving into policy news: the Public Lands Integrity Act, Jim Risch's support for the America the Beautiful Act's Legacy Restoration Fund reauthorization, the BLM's rescission of the Public Lands Rule, and Steve Pierce's impending BLM director confirmation. The main event is a deep-dive interview on a landmark development: the Salmon-Challis National Forest's authorization — signed the morning of recording — allowing limited gas chainsaw use by permitted outfitters and contractors to clear catastrophically downed timber on specific Frank Church River of No Return Wilderness trails. Erik walks through the legal foundation (the 1964 Wilderness Act's MRA process, the 1978 Endangered American Wilderness Act's House Report, and the trail-clearing mandate in the 1980 Central Idaho Wilderness Act), the scale of the problem (500+ trail miles, up to 700 downed trees per mile), and addresses critics who question the commercial motivation or fear broader precedent. He closes with a passionate case that access is the wilderness's greatest long-term protection.

14 May 2026 - 49 min
episode The Rugged Individual Myth: Guide Mental Health with Shannon Walton artwork

The Rugged Individual Myth: Guide Mental Health with Shannon Walton

In this week's episode, Erik Weiseth sits down with Shannon Walton, Executive Director of the Redside Foundation — the organization born from tragedy in 2010 that has grown into a trusted lifeline for guides across the American West. Shannon shares the origin story of Redside, her own winding path from professional guide to corporate executive to nonprofit leader, and the remarkable scope of what the organization has built: over 23,000 counseling sessions paid for since 2014, financial coaching, professional development scholarships, healthcare access, and more. The conversation also digs into the real and complex relationship between guiding culture, substance use, mental health, and the myth of the rugged Western individual. Erik also shares IOGA updates from the spring board meeting in Salmon, including a new Hunt Vice President, committee opportunities, and highlights from the strategic planning session.

28 Apr 2026 - 38 min
episode Myths, Directives, and Dead Lodgepole: A Frank Conversation with Forest Service Chief Tom Schultz artwork

Myths, Directives, and Dead Lodgepole: A Frank Conversation with Forest Service Chief Tom Schultz

In the debut episode of The Outfitter Brief, hosts Erik Weiseth (Idaho Outfitters and Guides Association) and Aaron Lieberman (America Outdoors Association) sit down with Chief Tom Schultz, Chief of the United States Forest Service. It's a wide-ranging, candid conversation covering the Forest Service reorganization, forest health, wildland fire consolidation, and what it all means for outfitters, guides, and the outdoor recreation industry. Schultz brings a unique perspective to the role — a background spanning military service, state lands management in both Montana and Idaho, and private sector timber experience — and he doesn't shy away from the hard questions. From debunking myths about land sell-offs to making the case for active forest management, this first episode sets the tone for what The Outfitter Brief is all about: cutting through the noise to get to what actually matters for the people running small businesses on America's public lands.

21 Apr 2026 - 57 min
episode Killing Bills & Howling Wolves artwork

Killing Bills & Howling Wolves

Erik and Jack recap a memorable Salmon Chapter banquet, run through the final stretch of Idaho's legislative session — including a last-minute bill kill, a wild ride on hunting tech rules, and a public lands win — then sit down with researcher and guide Carly Knudsen to talk burnout, resilience, and health access in the guiding profession. Show Notes: Show Notes Salmon Chapter Meeting & Banquet Erik attended the Salmon Chapter's spring meeting, which covered river and hunt topics including allocation. Idaho Fish and Game presented on local wildlife biology, and America Outdoors gave an update on the EXPLORE Act and associated fees. The evening banquet was a highlight — scholarships were awarded, Brad Compton was recognized for his service on the Idaho Outfitters and Guides Licensing Board, and Jeff and Deb Bitten received a lifetime recognition award for their extraordinary contributions to the industry. Legislative Update * SB 1326 – Open Fields Doctrine: * HB 861 – Tourism Funding: * HB 939 – Hunting Technology: * SJM 111 – Public Lands Resolution: Forest Service Filming Permits New rules simplify the permit process for filming on Forest Service lands: fewer than 5 people filming requires no permit; 6–8 people can self-issue a de minimis authorization online; 9+ requires a formal permit and fee. BLM is expected to not require any paperwork for groups under 8. Wilderness areas may still require additional authorization — check with your local office. Idaho Fish and Game Commission At the quarterly commission meeting, Rick Ward and Brad Compton presented a robust history and context of allocation in Idaho. Several IOGA members spoke to the commission as well. Economic Report on Public Lands IOGA, BHA, Idaho Wildlife Federation, and Idaho Business for the Outdoors released a new economic report by economist Steve Peterson on the value of public lands to Idaho's economy. A link will be included in the IOGA newsletter — at minimum, check out the executive summary. Licensing Board Update Brad Compton's tenure as board chairman came to a close, with Tammy Overacker stepping into the chair role. Brad will be greatly missed for his long service and deep understanding of the outfitting industry. Upcoming Events * April 6 – North Idaho Chapter allocation meeting (afternoon) + social dinner * April 7 – Nez Perce-Clearwater Outfitters Meeting in Orofino * April 9 – Salmon Select Sale & international wolf howling championship (Salmon Chapter fundraiser) * April 9–10 – IOGA Spring Board Meeting at Wilderness River Outfitters in Salmon (open to members; Zoom available) * April 16 – Lower Salmon Outfitters Meeting (moved from April 13) * May 15–17 – Red Side River Rendezvous, Salmon (IOGA is a sponsor) Guest Interview: Carly Knudsen Carly grew up in Salmon, has been guiding for over a decade (mostly on the Main and Middle Fork of the Salmon), and is now a PhD candidate in Parks, Recreation & Tourism at the University of Utah. She discusses her research on guide health and resilience — conducted in partnership with the Redside Foundation — including findings on well-being, burnout signals, the importance of organizational culture, and the significant gap in health insurance access among Idaho guides. She also talks about what outfitters and guide companies can do at the organizational level to better support their crews. Learn more about the Redside Foundation at redsideoutdoors.org [http://redsideoutdoors.org]

1 Apr 2026 - 57 min
episode Common Ground in the Canyons: John Robison on Collaborative Conservation artwork

Common Ground in the Canyons: John Robison on Collaborative Conservation

In this information-packed episode, Erik Weiseth and Jack Hurty dive into the "unsexy but essential" work of advocating for Idaho’s outfitting industry. Erik shares insights from his recent trip to D.C. for "Camp Washington," including a surprising meeting with Senator Risch and updates on the ORG Act. Later, Jack previews a critical new economic report on the risks of public land transfers. The second half features a deep-dive interview with John Robison, Public Lands and Wildlife Director for the Idaho Conservation League (ICL). John reflects on 25 years of conservation in Idaho, the legacy of the Owyhee Initiative, and why "collaborative conservation" is the superpower needed to keep public lands in public hands. ---------------------------------------- SHOW NOTES POLICY & ADVOCACY UPDATES * D.C. Recap (Camp Washington): Erik discusses advocating for the ORG Act, which aims to fix Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) issues regarding backcountry guide compensation. * The Forest Service "Restructure": Updates from leadership on the agency’s shift away from traditional regional models. * Senator Risch on Public Lands: Why the Senator’s recent comments provided a "reassuring" outlook for the future of federal land ownership in Idaho. * Economic Impact Report (March 20th): Jack breaks down top-line numbers from a new study showing that transferring federal lands to the state could shift an $837 million burden onto Idaho taxpayers. AGENCY RELATIONS & LOCAL CHAPTERS * SNRA Success: A 180-degree turn in the relationship between outfitters and Sawtooth National Recreation Area leadership. * Trail Stewardship Program: How outfitters can clear trails and apply that time toward their 3% use fees. * Nez-Clear Outfitter Meeting: Mark your calendars for April 7th in Orofino. LEGISLATIVE WATCH * SJM 111: A resolution supporting "public lands in public hands" passes the Senate unanimously. * The "Open Fields" Bill (SB 1238): Why IOGA is concerned about a bill that could create "poaching islands" on private property. * HB 861: A look at the potential diversion of tourism promotion dollars (lodging tax) toward university budgets. FEATURED INTERVIEW: JOHN ROBISON (ICL) * The Owyhee Initiative: How a "dirtbag kayaker" ended up helping facilitate one of the most significant collaborative conservation efforts in the West. * Finding Common Ground: Lessons on working with ranchers, miners, and tribes to preserve the "Sagebrush Sea." * The Night Sky Connection: A story about how a suction dredge miner and a conservationist found mutual value in Idaho’s wilderness. * Upcoming Conference: The Idaho Forest Restoration Partnership meeting in Coeur d’Alene (April 7–8). ---------------------------------------- LINKS & RESOURCES * Idaho Outfitters & Guides Association (IOGA) [https://www.ioga.org] * Idaho Conservation League (ICL) [https://www.idahoconservation.org] * America Outdoors Association [https://www.americaoutdoors.org] Are you an outfitter or guide? Support the voice of your industry by becoming an IOGA member today.

15 Mar 2026 - 1 h 6 min
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