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Idiopathic

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Welcome to Idiopathic, where the strange and unknown meets science, medicine, and a bit of curiosity. "Idiopathic" means a condition with no known cause—just like the stories we explore. From prophetic powers to reincarnation, hauntings to urban legends, cryptids to conspiracies, we'll explore what might really be behind the weird and unusual stories out there. Subscribe to Idiopathic for medical mysteries, haunted histories, and maybe even sharpen your eye for examining the eerie along the way!

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E41.2 Gene Otto: Robert the Doll (Part 2)

Last week we started in on the story of Gene Otto and Robert the Doll with our #1 fan-- Sarah's Mom. Some theories were thrown out there for the reasons why this doll generally eeks the heck out of people, and possibly why it might also appear to move and cause mischief at times. Today, we continue our discussion and see if we change our minds at all. So let's jump back into the nonsense on this episode idiopathic.. Co-Host Info: Dr. Sarah Kashdan is a registered naturopathic doctor and licensed acupuncturist in Fort Collins Colorado. Dr. Kashdan practices a whole-body multisystem approach to healthcare using several modalities such as diet, lifestyle, nutrition, and herbal medicine. Dr. Kashdan also has degrees in environmental health and toxicology and is a certified mold-literate provider. Dr. Kashdan can be found at Rocky Mountain Natural Medicine. Her instagram is @coloradonaturedoc⁠⁠

25 Mar 2025 - 44 min
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E41.1 Gene Otto: Robert the Doll (Part 1)

Gene Otto was born in 1900 in the Florida Keys, he passed away in the 1970's after a life spent making art. What he's probably best known for though, isn't his art but his childhood and lifelong companion: Robert. See, Robert was a nearly 4 foot tall stuffed doll and like many toys of this era, he's creepy as they come. Oh.. he's also cursed? Or a demon? I don't know, but when weird things started happening in Gene Otto's home, it was pretty easy for everyone to see the doll had something to do with it. Even after Gene passed, Robert has maintained a sort of reverence and respect amongst Key West folks, and even beyond. So how does a 1900's kid manage to avoid polio but wind up with a best friend who is a posessed doll? Well, here's hoping we find out on today's special episode of Idiopathic! References 1. News ABC. Divers find underwater hospital, cemetery off coast of Key West. ABC News. Accessed February 21, 2025. https://abcnews.go.com/US/divers-find-underwater-hospital-cemetery-off-coast-key/story?id=99011906 2. Luhrmann TM, Alderson-Day B, Chen A, et al. Learning to Discern the Voices of Gods, Spirits, Tulpas, and the Dead. Schizophr Bull. 2023;49(Suppl 1):S3-S12. doi:10.1093/schbul/sbac005 3. Robert Eugene “Gene” Otto (1900–1974). Accessed February 14, 2025. https://ancestors.familysearch.org/en/LH8K-CX3/robert-eugene-%22gene%22-otto-1900-1974 4. Robert The Doll: The Real Story Of Key West’s Haunted Toy. Accessed February 14, 2025. https://allthatsinteresting.com/robert-the-doll 5. Robert the Haunted Doll. Historic Houston. April 23, 2015. Accessed February 14, 2025. https://historichouston1836.com/robert-the-haunted-doll/ 6. Robert’s Story | Robert the Doll. February 6, 2024. Accessed February 14, 2025. https://robertthedoll.org/story/ 7. Eyman S. The legend of Otto’s doll. The Palm Beach Post. Accessed February 14, 2025. https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/news/2017/10/19/the-legend-otto-s-doll/7356820007/ 8. The Story Behind the World’s Most Terrifying Haunted Doll - Atlas Obscura. Accessed February 14, 2025. https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/story-behind-robert-the-doll 9. Di Natale AF, Simonetti ME, La Rocca S, Bricolo E. Uncanny valley effect: A qualitative synthesis of empirical research to assess the suitability of using virtual faces in psychological research. Computers in Human Behavior Reports. 2023;10:100288. doi:10.1016/j.chbr.2023.100288 10. Said S, Kang M. Viral Encephalitis. In: StatPearls. StatPearls Publishing; 2025. Accessed February 22, 2025. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK470162/ 11. Krubiner CB, Schwartz DA. Viral Hemorrhagic Fevers in Pregnant Women and the Vaccine Landscape: Comparisons Between Yellow Fever, Ebola, and Lassa Fever. Curr Trop Med Rep. 2019;6(4):186-196. doi:10.1007/s40475-019-00194-x 12. Simon LV, Hashmi MF, Torp KD. Yellow Fever. In: StatPearls. StatPearls Publishing; 2025. Accessed February 21, 2025. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK470425/ 13. Piket C. Yellow Fever Epidemic of 1899. January 14, 2013. Accessed February 21, 2025. https://www.miami-history.com/p/yellow-fever-epidemic-of-1899 Additional Resources Episode 6: The Human Hair Version and the Worst Social And That's Why We Drink: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEuKGLJpzas REMASTERED – Episode 15: Unboxed - Lore Podcast: https://www.lorepodcast.com/episodes/remastered15 The Curse of Robert the Doll | Episode 105 | Sinisterhood: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3ZIsmDGzyE

18 Mar 2025 - 1 h 11 min
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E40 Annaliese Michel: Posession on Trial (Special)

Today, we're getting into a chilling tale that inspired the 2005 film "The Exorcism of Emily Rose." In 1976, a young German woman named Anneliese Michel faced a harrowing ordeal marked by visions, voices, and seizures. Convinced she was possessed, her family turned to the Catholic Church for an exorcism. What followed were 67 intense sessions, ultimately leading to Anneliese's tragic death at 23 due to malnourishment and dehydration. Join us as we explore the thin line between faith and tragedy in this haunting real-life story, right here on Idiopathic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moA9bhSiZRg [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moA9bhSiZRg] (And That's Why We Drink) https://astonishinglegends.com/al-podcasts/tag/Anneliese+Michel [https://astonishinglegends.com/al-podcasts/tag/Anneliese+Michel] (Astonishing Legends) https://www.newspapers.com/article/chicago-tribune-anneliese-michel/23105422/ https://www.newspapers.com/article/detroit-free-press-anneliese-michel/24221407/ https://www.unilad.com/music/chilling-photos-anneliese-michel-exorcism-emily-rose-728475-20230209 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29fpnF1DWoQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iN2HtbycnhU

11 Mar 2025 - 1 h 21 min
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E39.2 Roland Doe: Exorcisms (Part 2)

Last week we covered the story of Roland Doe, the account that inspired a movie that still scares the hell out of me-- the Exorcist. The exorcist movie is based on a book by the same name written by William Peter Blatty. According to him, the novel was based on the accounts recorded by a catholic priest present at the exorcisms. We once again have two questions to tackle here-- (1) what could be behind the alleged 'possession' of Roland Doe; and (2) are there any scientific reasons that would explain how an exorcism might 'work' outside of the usual explanations? In part one, we started in on some of those, so let's see if we can continue to untangle these threads on today's episode of Idiopathic... Co-Host Info: Dr. Sarah Kashdan is a registered naturopathic doctor and licensed acupuncturist in Fort Collins Colorado. Dr. Kashdan practices a whole-body multisystem approach to healthcare using several modalities such as diet, lifestyle, nutrition, and herbal medicine. Dr. Kashdan also has degrees in environmental health and toxicology and is a certified mold-literate provider. Dr. Kashdan can be found at Rocky Mountain Natural Medicine. Her instagram is @coloradonaturedoc⁠⁠ References † Archindy.org: The Criterion Online Edition—March 18, 2011. (n.d.). Retrieved February 2, 2025, from https://www.archindy.org/criterion/local/2011/03-18/devil.html Baker, A. W., Keshaviah, A., Horenstein, A., Goetter, E. M., Mauro, C., Reynolds, C., Zisook, S., Shear, M. K., & Simon, N. M. (2016). The role of avoidance in complicated grief: A detailed examination of the Grief-Related Avoidance Questionnaire (GRAQ) in a large sample of individuals with complicated grief. Journal of Loss & Trauma, 21(6), 533–547. https://doi.org/10.1080/15325024.2016.1157412 Brodbeck, J., Berger, T., Biesold, N., Rockstroh, F., Schmidt, S. J., & Znoj, H. (2022). The Role of Emotion Regulation and Loss-Related Coping Self-efficacy in an Internet Intervention for Grief: Mediation Analysis. JMIR Mental Health, 9(5), e27707. https://doi.org/10.2196/27707 DeLong, W. (2023, August 20). The True Story Behind “The Exorcist” Is So Disturbing That The Movie Had To Leave The Worst Parts Out. All That’s Interesting. https://allthatsinteresting.com/roland-doe-the-exorcist-true-story Demoniacal Possession | Catholic Answers Encyclopedia. (n.d.). Retrieved February 2, 2025, from https://www.catholic.com/encyclopedia/demoniacal-possession Dimri, B. (2021, August 23). The Exorcism of Roland Doe: The Events That Inspired The Exorcist? Historic Mysteries. https://www.historicmysteries.com/unexplained-mysteries/roland-doe/21228/ Fitzgerald, C. (2022, February 17). The Terrifying Real-Life Inspiration for ‘The Exorcist.’ Thevintagenews. https://www.thevintagenews.com/2022/02/17/roland-doe-the-exorcist/ Friese, M., Binder, J., Luechinger, R., Boesiger, P., & Rasch, B. (2013). Suppressing Emotions Impairs Subsequent Stroop Performance and Reduces Prefrontal Brain Activation. PLoS ONE, 8(4), e60385. https://doi.org/10.1371/journal.pone.0060385 Goldenholz, D. M., Moss, R., Scott, J., Auh, S., & Theodore, W. H. (2015). Confusing Placebo Effect with Natural History in Epilepsy: A Big Data Approach. Annals of Neurology, 78(3), 329–336. https://doi.org/10.1002/ana.24470 Is “The Exorcist” based on a true story? All about Roland Doe and the cursed film. (n.d.-a). EW.Com. Retrieved January 25, 2025, from https://ew.com/the-exorcist-true-story-explained-8727499 Is “The Exorcist” Based on a True Story? All About the Real Events That Inspired the Horror Film. (n.d.-b). People.Com. Retrieved January 25, 2025, from https://people.com/is-the-exorcist-based-on-a-true-story-8638849 jlavarnway. (2021, October 25). Demoniac: Who Is Roland Doe, the Boy Who Inspired The Exorcist? | Skeptical Inquirer. https://skepticalinquirer.org/2021/10/demoniac-who-is-roland-doe-the-boy-who-inspired-the-exorcist/ Nunn, A. V. W., Guy, G. W., & Bell, J. D. (2022). Bioelectric Fields at the Beginnings of Life. Bioelectricity, 4(4), 237–247. https://doi.org/10.1089/bioe.2022.0012 O’Connor, M.-F. (2019). Grief: A Brief History of Research on How Body, Mind, and Brain Adapt. Psychosomatic Medicine, 81(8), 731–738. https://doi.org/10.1097/PSY.0000000000000717 Peña-Vargas, C., Armaiz-Peña, G., & Castro-Figueroa, E. (2021). A Biopsychosocial Approach to Grief, Depression, and the Role of Emotional Regulation. Behavioral Sciences, 11(8), 110. https://doi.org/10.3390/bs11080110 Pfeifer, J. H., & Allen, N. B. (2021). Puberty initiates cascading relationships between neurodevelopmental, social, and internalizing processes across adolescence. Biological Psychiatry, 89(2), 99–108. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.biopsych.2020.09.002 Pophof, B., Henschenmacher, B., Kattnig, D. R., Kuhne, J., Vian, A., & Ziegelberger, G. (2023). Biological Effects of Electric, Magnetic, and Electromagnetic Fields from 0 to 100 MHz on Fauna and Flora: Workshop Report. Health Physics, 124(1), 39–52. https://doi.org/10.1097/HP.0000000000001624 Sato, W., Kochiyama, T., Kubota, Y., Uono, S., Sawada, R., Yoshimura, S., & Toichi, M. (2016). The association between perceived social support and amygdala structure. Neuropsychologia, 85, 237–244. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.neuropsychologia.2016.03.036 Sato, W., Kochiyama, T., Uono, S., Sawada, R., & Yoshikawa, S. (2020). Amygdala activity related to perceived social support. Scientific Reports, 10(1), 2951. https://doi.org/10.1038/s41598-020-59758-x The Exorcism of Ronald Hunkeler (1973): The Real Story Behind The Exorcism of Emily Rose. (2023, October 23). https://exorcisms.com/the-exorcism-of-ronald-hunkeler-1973/ The Ouija Board Can’t Connect Us to Paranormal Forces—But It Can Tell Us a Lot About Psychology, Grief and Uncertainty | Smithsonian. (n.d.). Retrieved February 2, 2025, from https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-ouija-board-cant-connect-us-to-paranormal-forces-but-it-can-tell-us-a-lot-about-psychology-grief-and-uncertainty-5860627/ ThisWeekInLibraries. (2024, January 24). The Exorcist True Story: The Terrifying Real-Life Events. This Week in Libraries. https://thisweekinlibraries.com/the-exorcist-true-story-the-terrifying-real-life-events/ Thomson, P., & Jaque, S. V. (2014). Unresolved mourning, supernatural beliefs and dissociation: A mediation analysis. Attachment & Human Development, 16(5), 499–514. https://doi.org/10.1080/14616734.2014.926945 Tricoche, X., MacLeod, R., & Johnson, C. R. (2008). Visual Analysis of Bioelectric Fields. In L. Linsen, H. Hagen, & B. Hamann (Eds.), Visualization in Medicine and Life Sciences (pp. 205–220). Springer Berlin Heidelberg. https://doi.org/10.1007/978-3-540-72630-2_12 Types of Demonic Influence in the World – AIHCP. (n.d.). Retrieved February 2, 2025, from https://aihcp.net/2023/08/17/types-of-demonic-influence-in-the-world/ Vinti, V., Dell’Isola, G. B., Tascini, G., Mencaroni, E., Cara, G. D., Striano, P., & Verrotti, A. (2021). Temporal Lobe Epilepsy and Psychiatric Comorbidity. Frontiers in Neurology, 12, 775781. https://doi.org/10.3389/fneur.2021.775781 Zhao, F., Kang, H., You, Li., Rastogi, P., Venkatesh, D., & Chandra, M. (2014). Neuropsychological deficits in temporal lobe epilepsy: A comprehensive review. Annals of Indian Academy of Neurology, 17(4), 374–382. https://doi.org/10.4103/0972-2327.144003 Additional Resources Stuff You Missed in History Class The Possession Case of Roland Doe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Pt4B3K__Tc Episode28 | Strange & Unexplained Podcast: https://www.strangeandunexplainedpod.com/episodes/page/8 ATWWD E32 Father Beelzebub and 4000 Salutes: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5evWB8XWIDDzklYY2z9Oqu

4 Mar 2025 - 1 h 0 min
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E39.1 Roland Doe: Exorcisms (Part 1)

William Peter Blatty's The Exorcist was released in 1973. Audiences all over were shocked, some even had visceral responses to it. Reports of people fleeing mid-film, fainting, or vomiting in the theaters were shared widely. The Exorcist book and subsequent film aren't just the products of a creative imagination though. They're based on the case of Roland Doe, which has become one of the most famous alleged instances of demonic possession in the United States. Among many cultures, dabbling in the occult is taboo. A 'no-no' that can lead to some serious bad juju, if you will. The Exorcist shows us exactly why that is-- play with the occult and you're gonna catch a case of the demons. And the only cure for a case of the demons is an exorcism. We already know from our past story on Annelise Michele, that tragically-- exorcisms don't always cure the posessed-- but sometimes, it appears as though they do. So now, we're going to see if we can sort out just what is going on when the possessed recover through religious intervention.. on today's episode of Idiopathic! References † Archindy.org: The Criterion Online Edition—March 18, 2011. (n.d.). Retrieved February 2, 2025, from https://www.archindy.org/criterion/local/2011/03-18/devil.html Baker, A. W., Keshaviah, A., Horenstein, A., Goetter, E. M., Mauro, C., Reynolds, C., Zisook, S., Shear, M. K., & Simon, N. M. (2016). The role of avoidance in complicated grief: A detailed examination of the Grief-Related Avoidance Questionnaire (GRAQ) in a large sample of individuals with complicated grief. Journal of Loss & Trauma, 21(6), 533–547. https://doi.org/10.1080/15325024.2016.1157412 Brodbeck, J., Berger, T., Biesold, N., Rockstroh, F., Schmidt, S. J., & Znoj, H. (2022). The Role of Emotion Regulation and Loss-Related Coping Self-efficacy in an Internet Intervention for Grief: Mediation Analysis. JMIR Mental Health, 9(5), e27707. https://doi.org/10.2196/27707 DeLong, W. (2023, August 20). The True Story Behind “The Exorcist” Is So Disturbing That The Movie Had To Leave The Worst Parts Out. All That’s Interesting. https://allthatsinteresting.com/roland-doe-the-exorcist-true-story Demoniacal Possession | Catholic Answers Encyclopedia. (n.d.). Retrieved February 2, 2025, from https://www.catholic.com/encyclopedia/demoniacal-possession Dimri, B. (2021, August 23). The Exorcism of Roland Doe: The Events That Inspired The Exorcist? Historic Mysteries. https://www.historicmysteries.com/unexplained-mysteries/roland-doe/21228/ Fitzgerald, C. (2022, February 17). The Terrifying Real-Life Inspiration for ‘The Exorcist.’ Thevintagenews. https://www.thevintagenews.com/2022/02/17/roland-doe-the-exorcist/ Friese, M., Binder, J., Luechinger, R., Boesiger, P., & Rasch, B. (2013). Suppressing Emotions Impairs Subsequent Stroop Performance and Reduces Prefrontal Brain Activation. PLoS ONE, 8(4), e60385. https://doi.org/10.1371/journal.pone.0060385 Goldenholz, D. M., Moss, R., Scott, J., Auh, S., & Theodore, W. H. (2015). Confusing Placebo Effect with Natural History in Epilepsy: A Big Data Approach. Annals of Neurology, 78(3), 329–336. https://doi.org/10.1002/ana.24470 Is “The Exorcist” based on a true story? All about Roland Doe and the cursed film. (n.d.-a). EW.Com. Retrieved January 25, 2025, from https://ew.com/the-exorcist-true-story-explained-8727499 Is “The Exorcist” Based on a True Story? All About the Real Events That Inspired the Horror Film. (n.d.-b). People.Com. Retrieved January 25, 2025, from https://people.com/is-the-exorcist-based-on-a-true-story-8638849 jlavarnway. (2021, October 25). Demoniac: Who Is Roland Doe, the Boy Who Inspired The Exorcist? | Skeptical Inquirer. https://skepticalinquirer.org/2021/10/demoniac-who-is-roland-doe-the-boy-who-inspired-the-exorcist/ Nunn, A. V. W., Guy, G. W., & Bell, J. D. (2022). Bioelectric Fields at the Beginnings of Life. Bioelectricity, 4(4), 237–247. https://doi.org/10.1089/bioe.2022.0012 O’Connor, M.-F. (2019). Grief: A Brief History of Research on How Body, Mind, and Brain Adapt. Psychosomatic Medicine, 81(8), 731–738. https://doi.org/10.1097/PSY.0000000000000717 Peña-Vargas, C., Armaiz-Peña, G., & Castro-Figueroa, E. (2021). A Biopsychosocial Approach to Grief, Depression, and the Role of Emotional Regulation. Behavioral Sciences, 11(8), 110. https://doi.org/10.3390/bs11080110 Pfeifer, J. H., & Allen, N. B. (2021). Puberty initiates cascading relationships between neurodevelopmental, social, and internalizing processes across adolescence. Biological Psychiatry, 89(2), 99–108. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.biopsych.2020.09.002 Pophof, B., Henschenmacher, B., Kattnig, D. R., Kuhne, J., Vian, A., & Ziegelberger, G. (2023). Biological Effects of Electric, Magnetic, and Electromagnetic Fields from 0 to 100 MHz on Fauna and Flora: Workshop Report. Health Physics, 124(1), 39–52. https://doi.org/10.1097/HP.0000000000001624 Sato, W., Kochiyama, T., Kubota, Y., Uono, S., Sawada, R., Yoshimura, S., & Toichi, M. (2016). The association between perceived social support and amygdala structure. Neuropsychologia, 85, 237–244. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.neuropsychologia.2016.03.036 Sato, W., Kochiyama, T., Uono, S., Sawada, R., & Yoshikawa, S. (2020). Amygdala activity related to perceived social support. Scientific Reports, 10(1), 2951. https://doi.org/10.1038/s41598-020-59758-x The Exorcism of Ronald Hunkeler (1973): The Real Story Behind The Exorcism of Emily Rose. (2023, October 23). https://exorcisms.com/the-exorcism-of-ronald-hunkeler-1973/ The Ouija Board Can’t Connect Us to Paranormal Forces—But It Can Tell Us a Lot About Psychology, Grief and Uncertainty | Smithsonian. (n.d.). Retrieved February 2, 2025, from https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-ouija-board-cant-connect-us-to-paranormal-forces-but-it-can-tell-us-a-lot-about-psychology-grief-and-uncertainty-5860627/ ThisWeekInLibraries. (2024, January 24). The Exorcist True Story: The Terrifying Real-Life Events. This Week in Libraries. https://thisweekinlibraries.com/the-exorcist-true-story-the-terrifying-real-life-events/ Thomson, P., & Jaque, S. V. (2014). Unresolved mourning, supernatural beliefs and dissociation: A mediation analysis. Attachment & Human Development, 16(5), 499–514. https://doi.org/10.1080/14616734.2014.926945 Tricoche, X., MacLeod, R., & Johnson, C. R. (2008). Visual Analysis of Bioelectric Fields. In L. Linsen, H. Hagen, & B. Hamann (Eds.), Visualization in Medicine and Life Sciences (pp. 205–220). Springer Berlin Heidelberg. https://doi.org/10.1007/978-3-540-72630-2_12 Types of Demonic Influence in the World – AIHCP. (n.d.). Retrieved February 2, 2025, from https://aihcp.net/2023/08/17/types-of-demonic-influence-in-the-world/ Vinti, V., Dell’Isola, G. B., Tascini, G., Mencaroni, E., Cara, G. D., Striano, P., & Verrotti, A. (2021). Temporal Lobe Epilepsy and Psychiatric Comorbidity. Frontiers in Neurology, 12, 775781. https://doi.org/10.3389/fneur.2021.775781 Zhao, F., Kang, H., You, Li., Rastogi, P., Venkatesh, D., & Chandra, M. (2014). Neuropsychological deficits in temporal lobe epilepsy: A comprehensive review. Annals of Indian Academy of Neurology, 17(4), 374–382. https://doi.org/10.4103/0972-2327.144003 Additional Resources Stuff You Missed in History Class The Possession Case of Roland Doe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Pt4B3K__Tc Episode28 | Strange & Unexplained Podcast: https://www.strangeandunexplainedpod.com/episodes/page/8 ATWWD E32 Father Beelzebub and 4000 Salutes: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5evWB8XWIDDzklYY2z9Oqu

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