Immersive Medical Podcast

Phones Out AI On Teaching Trust and the Future of Clinical Ed with Reed Dickson

IM Pod EDU Special Reed Dickson Immersive Medical Podcast: AI, Play, and Practical Integration in Health and Higher Education This episode blends a conversational, energetic tone with pragmatic guidance for educators and clinicians navigating generative AI and immersive technologies. Devin opens with a humorous, vivid anecdote about attending an “AI for marketers” breakfast at a chandeliered venue with a dedicated coat room—highlighting how entry-level many local AI conversations still are. From there, Devin and guest Reed Dickson (Director for Online Faculty Experience and Innovation at Pima Community College) dive into hands-on strategies, ethical considerations, and the real-world impacts of AI on medical education, clinical practice, and workforce norms.

Are Nurses ready to change the way they think about VR sim?

In this Season 3 bonus episode of The Immersive Medical Podcast, VRpatients’ Devin Marble raises a simple question—“Do we really need ‘multiplayer’ VR?”—that calls into question the entire way the nursing industry approaches immersive simulation. Joined by Nurse Practitioner and educator, Maggie Lysaght, they discuss whether group-based virtual scenarios truly serve future nurses, or if there’s a better method. Tune in for a provocative look at how immersive VR and AI could transform clinical training, one nurse at a time.Key Moments (Timestamps) * 0:00 – Introduction Devin Marble introduces himself from VRpatients, and Maggie greets viewers as a Nurse Practitioner. * 0:02 – Meet Maggie Maggie explains her background: RN since 2008, NP since 2012, and an educator at the University of Cincinnati. * 0:09 – Purpose of the Fireside Chat Devin frames the conversation around nursing and simulation, looking for Maggie’s perspective on traditional vs. immersive training. * 0:25 – Background & Teaching Maggie shares her teaching role and how it differs from Devin’s paramedic teaching experience. * 1:00 – Why Do We Still Use the Same Simulation Model? Devin explores the high cost and resource constraints of traditional manikins and the impact on group-based simulation. * 3:12 – “When Are You Getting Multiplayer?” Devin reveals the most frequent question VRpatients hears, and Maggie offers insight on team-based care vs. day-to-day nursing reality. * 5:03 – Real Clinical Scenarios They discuss codes, multi-provider involvement, and why a large group isn’t the norm outside of emergencies. * 7:03 – The 60+ Year Legacy of Group Simulation Maggie and Devin question why educators still gather students around one manikin, pointing to historical resource limitations. * 9:00 – Group Pre-Brief, Solo Sim, Group Debrief Devin introduces his vision for VR-based training: group discussions, individual immersions, and collaborative reflection. * 10:24 – The Reality of One Nurse, One Patient Maggie underscores the importance of one-on-one simulation for developing critical thinking skills. * 12:00 – Handling Multiple Patients Over Time Devin raises the idea of successive simulations for each patient scenario rather than “multiplayer” or large group sessions. * 16:16 – Wrap-Up & Thanks Devin thanks Maggie for her time, jokingly offering her future medical rescue duties. They hint at making this a recurring series.

AI in Healthcare Simulation with Nurse Expert Suzie Kardong-Edgren

Summary In this episode of the Immersive Medical Podcast, Devin Marble and Susie Kardon-Egren discuss the integration of AI in healthcare, particularly in nursing education. They explore the implications of large language models, the potential for autonomous AI, and the importance of transparency in AI training. The conversation also addresses the looming healthcare worker shortage and the role of human intuition in clinical decision-making, emphasizing the need for ethical considerations in AI development. In this conversation, Suzie Edgren and Devin Marble discuss the integration of AI in healthcare education, focusing on the importance of realistic training scenarios, governance in AI usage, data privacy, and the future of AI in decision-making. They emphasize the need for educators to adapt to new technologies while ensuring that training prepares students for real-world challenges. The discussion also highlights the evolving role of educators in collaborating with technology vendors to enhance training outcomes. Takeaways AI is becoming increasingly important in healthcare education. Large Language Models (LLMs) can enhance clinical training. Autonomous AI can make decisions without human input. Transparency in AI training is crucial for ethical use. High stakes evaluations must occur in real clinical settings. AI can help alleviate the nursing shortage by improving efficiency. Human intuition and experience are irreplaceable in healthcare. Bias in AI training can lead to ethical concerns. AI can simulate clinical scenarios but lacks human understanding. The future of nursing education will involve AI integration. Training with realistic scenarios is crucial for student preparedness. Governance features in AI can enhance user confidence. Integration of AI in education raises data privacy concerns. AI will soon have the ability to make autonomous decisions. Educators must adapt to new technologies in healthcare training. Collaboration with vendors is essential for effective AI implementation. Students need to practice in environments that reflect real-world challenges. AI can help streamline evaluations and feedback for students. Curiosity and inquiry are vital as AI becomes more prevalent. The future of healthcare education will involve more technology and innovation.

The CDC - Creating Safer and More Productive Laboratories with OneLabVR

Joe Rothschild from the CDC discusses OneLabVR, a virtual reality training platform for laboratory professionals. OneLab VR provides a safe and repeatable environment for learning laboratory procedures and skills. It aims to bridge the gap between traditional online e-learning and hands-on training. The platform includes various laboratory scenarios, such as microbiology, pathology, and chemical labs, with lab-specific instruments and hardware. OneLab VR also offers a multiplayer component, allowing subject matter experts to host live training sessions. The goal of OneLab VR is to create safer and more productive laboratories and attract the next generation of laboratory workers. * 1:03 – Introduction of Joe Rothschild from the CDC and OneLabVR * 7:53 – Joe discusses how OneLabVR bridges the gap between e-learning and hands-on lab training * 10:30 – The CDC’s goal with OneLabVR: attracting the next generation of lab professionals * 9:02 – Multiplayer feature: live training sessions hosted by experts * 31:53 – The CDC’s partnership with APHL to give away free VR headsets to clinical and public health labs * 35:45 – Long-term goals: safer, more productive labs through OneLabVR * 18:00 – First-ever live VR demo on the podcast: entering the OneLabVR environment * 22:01 – Demonstrating how to select and handle proper lab specimens in VR * Reach.cdc.gov - Recourses, eLearning courses, video job aides. * vr.cdc.gov - The VR-Ready Laboratory program provides VR headsets to public health laboratories, academic laboratories, and educational programs within clinical laboratories. To request VR headset(s), contact us at VR@cdc.gov * Email vr@cdc.gov to inquire about VR ready laboratories program. Powered by www.vrpatients.com

Innovate to Elevate - Transforming Nursing Education with Bonnie Clipper

In this conversation, Bonnie Clipper discusses the concept of innovation in nursing and the opportunities it presents for nurses to drive change and improve patient care. She emphasizes the need for nurses to be involved in the development and adoption of new technologies and care processes. The conversation also explores the role of virtual nursing and the use of virtual and augmented reality in nursing education. Additionally, the current state of nursing is discussed, highlighting the challenges and turnover in the profession. The conversation explores the challenges of nurse retention and the need for innovation in the nursing profession. It discusses the high turnover rates among new nurses and the need to make nursing more attractive through better scheduling and career development opportunities. The conversation also highlights the ineffectiveness of traditional methods of appreciation, such as pizza parties, and the need to address deeper issues. It emphasizes the importance of leadership in addressing these challenges and the need for change management. The lightning round at the end provides insights into Bonnie Clipper's personal preferences and advice for those looking to make innovative changes in nursing. Takeaways * Innovation in nursing provides opportunities for nurses to drive change and improve patient care. * Nurses should be involved in the development and adoption of new technologies and care processes. * Virtual nursing, including the use of virtual and augmented reality, is an emerging area with the potential to enhance patient care. * The current state of nursing includes challenges and turnover, particularly among new graduates. High turnover rates among new nurses are a significant challenge in the nursing profession. * Nursing needs to be made more attractive through better scheduling and career development opportunities. * Traditional methods of appreciation, such as pizza parties, are ineffective in retaining nurses. * Leadership plays a crucial role in addressing the challenges of nurse retention. * Change management is essential in implementing innovative strategies in healthcare. * Reading non-healthcare-related materials about technology and the future can provide valuable insights for nurse leaders. * Innovation requires curiosity, a willingness to challenge the status quo, and a commitment to continuous improvement. * Challenges and Opportunities in the Current State of Nursing * Driving Innovation in Nursing: Empowering Nurses to Lead Change Cracking the Nut of Nurse Turnover * The Role of Leadership in Retaining Nurses * "Innovation in nursing means the opportunity for nurses to step up and problem solve." * "We need to think differently and adopt technology to make our work more effective." * "Virtual nursing for in-patients will become the standard of care in less than five years." * "Our challenge is that by the end of year two, 60 plus percent of these new nurses are leaving." * "Throwing a monthly pizza party or bringing in donuts isn't what nurses want to feel appreciated and valued." * "You're talking about pulling a really good nurse out of a practice environment and asking them to educate young people, maybe not even young people, right, new nurses. And that's an awful lot of responsibility." Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Background 09:52 The Power of Virtual Nursing 28:29 Cracking the Nut of Nurse Turnover 36:13 Change Management Visit www.vrpatients.com to innovate your nursing school. The Innovation Handbook by Bonnie Clipper: https://a.co/d/42eCF6y