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It Was Never a Job

Podcast by Chris Saenger

English

Personal stories & conversations

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About It Was Never a Job

It Was Never a Job is a podcast about life overseas with USAID. You’ll hear former USAID Foreign Service Officers describe moments of risk and danger, traveling to visit remote projects, hosting VIP visitors, and how life overseas impacted our families. On this show, we’re not here to talk s*** about DOGE, or lament the changes to foreign assistance, or share again the earnest facts about the many lives USAID saved. This show is about what life was like for those posted overseas with USAID, who served along with their loved ones all over the world. Their stories are harrowing and hilarious, heartbreaking and joyful. I think of these as these as an oral history of friends and colleagues. The experiences and emotions matter more than individual specifics, so you won't hear folks identified by name. Because USAID service was never a job. It was our life. Learn more and share your stories at www.itwasneverajob.com

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8 episodes

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"Wow" Moments

Life and work with USAID offered amazing experiences. Visits to the wildest, most beautiful, most remote places in the world. Meetings in the Presidential palace or the White House. Real human connection across wide gulfs of language and culture. Seeing firsthand how our work helped families and communities live better lives. Service to the United States through service to the world. Next time you’re with a former USAID person, ask them about a time when they said to themselves, “Wow. I can’t believe this is my job. I can’t believe I get to be here, in this place, with these people, and do this work.” You might see them smile or cry. Maybe both. Maybe at the same time. No other career offered the same opportunity to show American values, advance American interests, and learn so much about the world. Learn more and get in touch at www.itwasneverajob.com [http://www.itwasneverajob.com/]

20 Feb 2026 - 24 min
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Duty Officer

A US Embassy has no higher purpose than serving Americans overseas. When a fellow citizen loses their passport, ends up in jail, gets seriously ill, or dies in another country, specialized State Department officers are there to help them. Those State Department officers who focus on services for American citizens do plenty of work on nights and weekends, but they need a break sometimes. So when an anxious family member or distressed tourist calls the Embassy late at night, the Marine on duty connects them by phone with the Duty Officer. All the diplomats in a US Embassy take turns serving as Duty Officer, usually for a week, to be the helpful voice at the other end of the phone after hours. Armed with only about an hour of training and a manual that describes how to handle typical situations, that week’s Embassy Duty Officer keeps the phone by their side day and night, to address whatever comes at them. USAID’s Foreign Service personnel took their turn alongside all the other members of the Embassy community as that first line of support for fellow citizens in need. Learn more and get in touch at www.itwasneverajob.com [http://www.itwasneverajob.com/]

13 Feb 2026 - 20 min
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VIPs and Visitors

Embassy life can be pretty fancy. Diplomats meet with heads of state, CEOs, and Ambassadors. The President, Cabinet secretaries, and other Washington bosses visit. The only thing that’s a bigger deal than a VIP is a *V*-VIP. That’s of course a VERY very important person – usually code for the President, the Vice President, or the Secretary of State. Congressional delegations – abbreviated “Co-Dels” – travel the world to see firsthand the quality and impact of foreign assistance. The theater of pomp and circumstance that often comes with these visits is an important part of diplomacy, signalling friendship, power, or rivalry between countries. But before the photo ops and major speeches, the rank-and-file of the Embassy toil for weeks to choreograph every detail and plan for every contingency. High-level officials – and their staff – have high expectations. Security preparations are uncompromising. Members of Congress sometimes bring their spouses, who get their own bespoke itineraries, full of cultural experiences, and sometimes retail. USAID staff took their turn, planning and organizing, and often helping visitors get outside the capital and connect with ordinary local people. Learn more and get in touch at www.itwasneverajob.com [http://www.itwasneverajob.com/]

30 Jan 2026 - 22 min
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Family

The families of USAID’s foreign service staff had a tough job. They moved every few years, to new schools, new houses, new cultures and climates. Spouses and kids had to reinvent themselves in every place, looking for employment and new friends, trying to figure out soccer or dance class in a language they hadn’t learned yet. And after all that work to find a place, usually after more than their share of tears and frustration, just when they figured out whatever place they were in, it was time for the next posting in the next country. Extended families back home visited to experience how different – or sometimes not so different – life abroad could be. USAID folks even convinced most of our people back home that we didn’t actually work for the CIA. So for as hard as it was, the bright side was awfully bright: USAID families speak languages, adapt to anything, and can find – or create – a community for themselves anywhere they go. We came away with a clearer picture of life in the USA, and gratitude for the many blessings this country offers us. Learn more and get it touch at www.itwasneverajob.com [http://www.itwasneverajob.com/]

23 Jan 2026 - 31 min
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