Living Influence with Bill Thrall and Scott Boyd

Maturity Is Measured Through Healthy Relationships

How is your spiritual maturity connected more to your relational health than your disciplines? In this episode, Bill and Scott discuss how spiritual and personal maturity are not primarily measured by discipline, performance, or self-improvement, but by the quality and health of relationships with God, self, and others. They explore how grace transforms identity, reshapes relational dynamics, and frees people from shame-driven living into authentic love and trust. Believing that Christ is in each of us allows us to shift from a "me-centered" focus on self-improvement to a "we-centered" focus on loving and benefiting others. Topics Bill Thrall and Scott Boyd discuss in this episode: (03:41) Maturity is not about self-improvement, but about living in meaningful relationship with God and others. (05:35) Discovering “Christ in you” from Galatians 2. (07:50) A mature leader is someone who makes significant life decisions for the benefit of others. (09:16) The best way to know if you are loving someone is to ask them if they are experiencing your love. (15:28) How shame and “sin management” trap people in immaturity when identity is centered on being a sinner. This episode was brought to you by Bill Thrall, Scott Boyd, and the Living Influence team. Learn about Living Influence: https://www.livinginfluence.com/ [https://www.livinginfluence.com/] Subscribe to the Living Influence podcast: * YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LivingInfluencePodcast [https://www.youtube.com/@LivingInfluencePodcast] * Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/4kP9Mm2 [https://apple.co/4kP9Mm2] * Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2F2RSvXKfU08Q5LVTCyIYI [https://open.spotify.com/show/2F2RSvXKfU08Q5LVTCyIYI] Learn about Bill Thrall’s books: https://www.livinginfluence.com/books [https://www.livinginfluence.com/books] Follow and like the Living Influence podcast on social media: * Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/livinginfluencepodcast [https://www.instagram.com/livinginfluencepodcast] * TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@livinginfluencepodcast [https://www.tiktok.com/@livinginfluencepodcast] * Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/61576202821527 [https://www.facebook.com/61576202821527] This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co/ [https://www.storyon.co/]

What Makes Someone Worth Following?

Do you blame others for your lack of success? Or do you use your position and authority for the benefit of others? In this episode, Bill and Scott explore the difference between authority gained through position versus influence earned through character. They discuss how mature leaders prioritize humility and serving and developing others, rather than using power for themselves. True leadership influence comes from the maturity, humility, and trustworthiness of the person, which leads to helping others grow, succeed, and flourish! Topics Bill Thrall and Scott Boyd discuss in this episode: (01:22) Humility and how true authority is modeled through laying aside power rather than demanding it. (03:38) Position gives opportunity, but what someone does with that opportunity depends on the maturity of their person. (05:41) Leaders who misuse authority often blame others when results fall short. (07:44) Comparing workplace leadership to parenting, and that compliance without trust eventually creates rebellion. (13:53) Annual reviews became conversations about growth, gratitude, and future goals instead of criticism. (16:31) Mature people increasingly live for the benefit of others. This episode was brought to you by Bill Thrall, Scott Boyd, and the Living Influence team. Learn about Living Influence: https://www.livinginfluence.com/ Subscribe to the Living Influence podcast: * YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LivingInfluencePodcast * Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/4kP9Mm2 * Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2F2RSvXKfU08Q5LVTCyIYI Learn about Bill Thrall’s books: https://www.livinginfluence.com/books Follow and like the Living Influence podcast on social media: * Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/livinginfluencepodcast * TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@livinginfluencepodcast * Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/61576202821527 This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co/

Mature People Delight in the Success of Others

How do you react when someone around you is honored, succeeds, or surpasses your own influence? In this episode, Bill and Scott discuss how maturity is the ability to sincerely delight in the growth and influence of those around you. Bill and Scott share stories of people around them who affirmed them throughout their lives. Affirming another person’s potential can transform their life and even organizations. We hope this conversation encourages you to create environments where others can flourish, and leaders can transform their organizations into thriving communities where every individual is valued for their unique contribution. We also hope this encourages you to experience the joy of celebrating others and their success. Topics Bill Thrall and Scott Boyd discuss in this episode: (00:23) The idea that mature people delight in the influence and growth of others rather than competing with them. (01:45) Immature leaders often need to remain number one and get upset and jealous when others are honored. (04:17) Confronting hatred or a deep rooted trauma can become a turning point in your healing journey. (07:41) Scott explains how realizing employees were building their lives around his company changed his leadership mindset. (10:15) Shifting the company mission toward providing growth opportunities rather than just seeking profit. (16:09) Organizations and communities are, essentially, a body or a family where every individual is an essential necessity. This episode was brought to you by Bill Thrall, Scott Boyd, and the Living Influence team. Learn about Living Influence: https://www.livinginfluence.com/ Subscribe to the Living Influence podcast: * YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LivingInfluencePodcast * Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/4kP9Mm2 * Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2F2RSvXKfU08Q5LVTCyIYI Learn about Bill Thrall’s books: https://www.livinginfluence.com/books Follow and like the Living Influence podcast on social media: * Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/livinginfluencepodcast * TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@livinginfluencepodcast * Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/61576202821527 This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co/

Receiving Love Changes Everything

Do you feel that you deserve love? Do you struggle to accept love from others? In this episode, Bill and Scott explore the process of spiritual maturing, defining it as the shift from doing more for God to trusting what God says is already true about our identity in Christ. They discuss how shame-based beliefs distort identity and influence behavior, especially in emotional triggers. Bill invites us to be loved, regardless of how we feel. Receiving love from God and from others can result in true transformation. Topics Bill Thrall and Scott Boyd discuss in this episode: (00:33) The theme of spiritual maturity and how it involves believing who we are in Christ. (03:43) Shame creates false self-messages that people often learn to trust as reality. (08:35) Challenging performance-based thinking by suggesting maturity is about trusting truth instead of doing more. (14:58) Realizing a huge problem can be not knowing how to be loved. (16:49) Bill highlights how experiencing love in relationships is essential for growth and transformation. This episode was brought to you by Bill Thrall, Scott Boyd, and the Living Influence team. Learn about Living Influence: https://www.livinginfluence.com/ Subscribe to the Living Influence podcast: * YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LivingInfluencePodcast * Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/4kP9Mm2 * Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2F2RSvXKfU08Q5LVTCyIYI Learn about Bill Thrall’s books: https://www.livinginfluence.com/books Follow and like the Living Influence podcast on social media: * Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/livinginfluencepodcast * TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@livinginfluencepodcast * Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/61576202821527 This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co/

The Impact of Expectations on Maturity

What expectations have you had to live up to? Has it helped you grow and mature, or has it actually hindered you? In this episode, Bill and Scott discuss how living up to others’ expectations, especially in leadership, parenting, and relationships, can actually hinder genuine growth. They talk about how people tend to perform in order to meet expectations, rather than develop true transformation rooted in trust. Instead of growing in maturity, expectations often produce performance-based behavior that masks deeper issues and prevents us from learning how to trust truth for ourselves. Real maturity comes through trust, not effort or compliance. When we can learn to trust truth rather than conform to expectations, we have the amazing opportunity to experience authentic transformation, rather than surface-level behavior change! Topics Bill Thrall and Scott Boyd discuss in this episode: (01:32) True maturity is rooted in trust rather than personal effort or striving. (02:21) Allowing others to live by your expectations can hinder their development. (05:14) Leaders can unintentionally create performance-based followings instead of mature individuals. (08:05) Contrasting competency-based leadership with human-centered leadership. (12:05) A story about leaders resisting mutual expectations, revealing deeper leadership issues. (17:54) How unmet expectations serve as a deep source of emotional pain. This episode was brought to you by Bill Thrall, Scott Boyd, and the Living Influence team. Learn about Living Influence: https://www.livinginfluence.com/ Subscribe to the Living Influence podcast: * YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LivingInfluencePodcast * Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/4kP9Mm2 * Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2F2RSvXKfU08Q5LVTCyIYI Learn about Bill Thrall’s books: https://www.livinginfluence.com/books Follow and like the Living Influence podcast on social media: * Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/livinginfluencepodcast * TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@livinginfluencepodcast * Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/61576202821527 This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co/