Look Both Ways with David & Wes

Episode 21: The Car Industry + What Our Vehicles Say About Us

57 min · 14. maj 2026
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The Car Industry - David & Wes drive straight into the changing car industry and what today’s vehicles reveal about identity, status, and the future of transportation. From cheap Chinese EVs showing up near the U.S. border to the pressure they could place on Detroit, they explore whether companies like BYD and Geely could bring back the affordable car in America and why U.S. automakers may struggle to compete. It’s also a conversation about how transportation has become deeply tied to culture and identity in the United States, why so many people buy vehicles they barely use for their intended purpose, and what all of that could mean for the future adoption of autonomous vehicles. Other topics: 🔹 Our favorite “buy low” city in America 🔹 Cheap Chinese EVs & whether Detroit can keep them out 🔹 Pickup trucks & the role of identity in vehicle choice 🔹 Rivian’s e-bike spinout Subscribe for biweekly conversations about all things transportation! Additional resources: The U.S. Wants to Ban China’s High-Tech Cars, but They’re Already Here in El Paso [https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbHZINjBDVUdsdlBuakV3UUs0dU41NUplSEVId3xBQ3Jtc0tseE1SRzJMa2UwUHdGclpYNllqRWx6N3pnc0xfbEhJcEd6YTl4d2xleDhaOUJhR0Nqb0lzRnRrQ0Z1UkpkdVRTMjhTOHpGVHBNbk9iSE11QkFXMjBYRll4SkhSX3RnM09XVzFXS1BpX0d4TG90czQ1RQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.wsj.com%2Fbusiness%2Fautos%2Fchinese-cars-byd-geely-u-s-mexico-be0dea28&v=blVJD68Pjlk] (Wall Street Journal)  Upside Down: A Primer for the Looking-Glass World [https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbkhsZ1Z4UklneUZqLUpnWjhaNk9QQTlESnZTQXxBQ3Jtc0tsbmpVNXc0bG4zWTl2MUNVdnNWY1RUdFBaeXo3X3lPMi0tc3hGcWNlLTZDRzZqZHJ2R3VWc1JESmItbS05Skc1UWN5M0EzZkVTY2tnX25haWJmVXNkbGFWcnJhY1l2R25yQzRNbmg5eVJsY2dmajMtYw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fus.macmillan.com%2Fbooks%2F9780312420314%2Fupsidedown%2F&v=blVJD68Pjlk] by Eduardo Galeano You Don’t Need A Full-Size Pickup Truck, You Need a Cowboy Costume [https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbWZTMHN0ZDlWUzlyU2lqY2U5Q3pGTE00VDQ0UXxBQ3Jtc0trS1VrU283QmJZLXkzc0JLbnVrNVVjYnkzaHNLM0ZoRGF0RjZyeW44V08xS1JERWRzRzB6cUlsYXJGcE1sSWtNZUtmby1EZnNJendON2JLMndpWWhIdTFZY19pU0ZObTg3QndTRUpRYlFwMEctV3VnRQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thedrive.com%2Fnews%2F26907%2Fyou-dont-need-a-full-size-pickup-truck-you-need-a-cowboy-costume&v=blVJD68Pjlk] (The Drive)  This Rivian spinoff is reinventing e-bikes in California with screens, software and swappable seats [https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqa0lBLWpZa25ZUlB1dWNBLVdraVVJTm5iUFZWUXxBQ3Jtc0tubXQ1SnUtc05yVWU4RkhmZFRrcXdGeWNDNU1SQ3MxZHhsMTZHVnRGNzRjWmQ2VXhhakNDX3J6Vi1zQ0Y5anBxWnRiNnZrU2lLRUpzaVFoWjF0akhybU5sbWxYcFljYnNRNVBDd2RDTVpITW9QMXkwUQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.latimes.com%2Fbusiness%2Fstory%2F2026-05-01%2Fthis-rivian-spinoff-is-reinventing-e-bikes-with-screens-software&v=blVJD68Pjlk] (LA Times)   Music by Charlie Van Stee (courtesy of bensound) Email us at lookbothwayspod@gmail.com or find us at www.lookbothwayspodcast.com [http://www.lookbothwayspodcast.com], www.davidzipper.com [http://www.davidzipper.com], and www.wesmarshall.org [http://www.wesmarshall.org]

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episode Episode 23: World Cup Transportation Culture Shock + Safety Rituals That Stop Making Sense artwork

Episode 23: World Cup Transportation Culture Shock + Safety Rituals That Stop Making Sense

The World Cup - David & Wes mark the start of the World Cup by talking about the transportation culture shock many international visitors may experience in the United States. From stadium access to transit service to the everyday assumptions baked into how we move people around big events, they discuss why hosting a global event can expose the gaps in our transportation system. It’s a conversation about what happens when the world arrives expecting world-class mobility and instead encounters the very American mix of cars, parking, costs, confusion, and workarounds. Other topics: 🔹 Stadiums that fit well into the urban fabric 🔹 School buses stopping at railroad crossings & when safety rituals stop making sense 🔹 And we answer some mailbag questions such as how to talk about car-centric systems without losing people Subscribe for biweekly conversations about all things transportation! Additional resources: No Train, No Stop? FMCSA Considers Rule Change for School Buses [https://www.schoolbusfleet.com/news/no-train-no-stop-fmcsa-considers-rule-change-for-school-buses] Why Did Cars Get So Hard to See Out Of? [http://bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-07-10/why-did-cars-get-so-hard-to-see-out-of-blame-the-a-pillars%20] (David's article in Bloomberg)  Is Finland's new car-free bridge the longest of its kind in the world? [https://newatlas.com/architecture/finland-helsinki-pedestrian-bridge-kruunuvuori/] Music by Charlie Van Stee (courtesy of bensound) Email us at lookbothwayspod@gmail.com or find us at www.lookbothwayspodcast.com [http://www.lookbothwayspodcast.com], www.davidzipper.com [http://www.davidzipper.com], and www.wesmarshall.org [http://www.wesmarshall.org]

11. juni 202655 min
episode Episode 22: The Gas Tax Holiday Trap + How Singapore & Fargo Price Transportation artwork

Episode 22: The Gas Tax Holiday Trap + How Singapore & Fargo Price Transportation

Gas Tax Holiday - David & Wes take on gas tax holidays and why cutting a few cents from the price of gas is usually better politics than transportation policy. The federal gas tax has been stuck at 18.4 cents per gallon since 1993, and suspending it would barely make a dent in a fill-up while weakening a transportation funding system that is already running on fumes. They talk through who actually benefits, whether the savings ever reach drivers, and why a real price-stabilization policy would have to move both ways, cutting the tax when prices spike and raising it when prices fall. Other topics: 🔹 Singapore’s congestion pricing history & some transportation details that caught David’s eye 🔹 Fargo’s downtown parking rules can make “free” parking annoying (at least according to Wes) 🔹 David’s shirt! Subscribe for biweekly conversations about all things transportation! Additional resources: How did Singapore restrict cars on its island? | With Paul Barter [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR1Lhvu4Sg8] (Urban Mobility Explained)  Trump Proposes Suspending Federal Gas Tax Until Prices Fall [https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/11/us/politics/trump-gas-tax.html] (The New York Times)  Labor cuts fuel excise for three months, saving Australians 26c a litre on petrol and diesel [https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2026/mar/30/labor-to-halve-fuel-excise-on-petrol-and-diesel-for-three-months-after-national-cabinet-meeting] (The Guardian)  Governor says Indiana may have ‘flexibility’ to extend gas tax suspension again [https://indianacapitalchronicle.com/2026/05/22/governor-says-indiana-may-have-flexibility-to-extend-gas-tax-suspension-again/] (Indiana Capital Chronicle)  Music by Charlie Van Stee (courtesy of bensound) Email us at lookbothwayspod@gmail.com or find us at www.lookbothwayspodcast.com [http://www.lookbothwayspodcast.com], www.davidzipper.com [http://www.davidzipper.com], and www.wesmarshall.org [http://www.wesmarshall.org]

28. maj 20261 h 3 min
episode Episode 21: The Car Industry + What Our Vehicles Say About Us artwork

Episode 21: The Car Industry + What Our Vehicles Say About Us

The Car Industry - David & Wes drive straight into the changing car industry and what today’s vehicles reveal about identity, status, and the future of transportation. From cheap Chinese EVs showing up near the U.S. border to the pressure they could place on Detroit, they explore whether companies like BYD and Geely could bring back the affordable car in America and why U.S. automakers may struggle to compete. It’s also a conversation about how transportation has become deeply tied to culture and identity in the United States, why so many people buy vehicles they barely use for their intended purpose, and what all of that could mean for the future adoption of autonomous vehicles. Other topics: 🔹 Our favorite “buy low” city in America 🔹 Cheap Chinese EVs & whether Detroit can keep them out 🔹 Pickup trucks & the role of identity in vehicle choice 🔹 Rivian’s e-bike spinout Subscribe for biweekly conversations about all things transportation! Additional resources: The U.S. Wants to Ban China’s High-Tech Cars, but They’re Already Here in El Paso [https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbHZINjBDVUdsdlBuakV3UUs0dU41NUplSEVId3xBQ3Jtc0tseE1SRzJMa2UwUHdGclpYNllqRWx6N3pnc0xfbEhJcEd6YTl4d2xleDhaOUJhR0Nqb0lzRnRrQ0Z1UkpkdVRTMjhTOHpGVHBNbk9iSE11QkFXMjBYRll4SkhSX3RnM09XVzFXS1BpX0d4TG90czQ1RQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.wsj.com%2Fbusiness%2Fautos%2Fchinese-cars-byd-geely-u-s-mexico-be0dea28&v=blVJD68Pjlk] (Wall Street Journal)  Upside Down: A Primer for the Looking-Glass World [https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbkhsZ1Z4UklneUZqLUpnWjhaNk9QQTlESnZTQXxBQ3Jtc0tsbmpVNXc0bG4zWTl2MUNVdnNWY1RUdFBaeXo3X3lPMi0tc3hGcWNlLTZDRzZqZHJ2R3VWc1JESmItbS05Skc1UWN5M0EzZkVTY2tnX25haWJmVXNkbGFWcnJhY1l2R25yQzRNbmg5eVJsY2dmajMtYw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fus.macmillan.com%2Fbooks%2F9780312420314%2Fupsidedown%2F&v=blVJD68Pjlk] by Eduardo Galeano You Don’t Need A Full-Size Pickup Truck, You Need a Cowboy Costume [https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbWZTMHN0ZDlWUzlyU2lqY2U5Q3pGTE00VDQ0UXxBQ3Jtc0trS1VrU283QmJZLXkzc0JLbnVrNVVjYnkzaHNLM0ZoRGF0RjZyeW44V08xS1JERWRzRzB6cUlsYXJGcE1sSWtNZUtmby1EZnNJendON2JLMndpWWhIdTFZY19pU0ZObTg3QndTRUpRYlFwMEctV3VnRQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thedrive.com%2Fnews%2F26907%2Fyou-dont-need-a-full-size-pickup-truck-you-need-a-cowboy-costume&v=blVJD68Pjlk] (The Drive)  This Rivian spinoff is reinventing e-bikes in California with screens, software and swappable seats [https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqa0lBLWpZa25ZUlB1dWNBLVdraVVJTm5iUFZWUXxBQ3Jtc0tubXQ1SnUtc05yVWU4RkhmZFRrcXdGeWNDNU1SQ3MxZHhsMTZHVnRGNzRjWmQ2VXhhakNDX3J6Vi1zQ0Y5anBxWnRiNnZrU2lLRUpzaVFoWjF0akhybU5sbWxYcFljYnNRNVBDd2RDTVpITW9QMXkwUQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.latimes.com%2Fbusiness%2Fstory%2F2026-05-01%2Fthis-rivian-spinoff-is-reinventing-e-bikes-with-screens-software&v=blVJD68Pjlk] (LA Times)   Music by Charlie Van Stee (courtesy of bensound) Email us at lookbothwayspod@gmail.com or find us at www.lookbothwayspodcast.com [http://www.lookbothwayspodcast.com], www.davidzipper.com [http://www.davidzipper.com], and www.wesmarshall.org [http://www.wesmarshall.org]

14. maj 202657 min
episode BONUS EPISODE: “Freedom to Drive” + Everyone Deserves Sidewalks (Live from Denver) artwork

BONUS EPISODE: “Freedom to Drive” + Everyone Deserves Sidewalks (Live from Denver)

Freedom to Drive - In this very special episode of Look Both Ways recorded in front of a live audience on a rooftop in Denver, Jill Locantore of the Denver Streets Partnership joins David & Wes to dig into the Trump Administration’s “Freedom to Drive” initiative and what it says about how we think about congestion, mobility, and who the transportation system is really for. They contrast that national framing with a local story, Denver’s successful “Denver Deserves Sidewalks” campaign, which shifted responsibility for sidewalks from property owners to the city. It’s a conversation about competing visions of freedom, what it actually takes to build better cities, and how policy choices shape everyday experience on our streets. Thanks to everyone that came out for a really fun event! Other topics: 🔹 The surprising U.S. city where we could see ourselves living 🔹 We also take some questions from the audience Subscribe for biweekly conversations about all things transportation.  Additional resources:  The Freedom to Drive Initiative [https://ops.fhwa.dot.gov/freedom-to-drive-initiative.htm]   David’s articles about sidewalks: Who Should Pay to Fix the Sidewalk? [https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2025-02-20/denver-takes-a-rare-step-to-fund-sidewalks-public-fees-for-repairs] The High Cost of Bad Sidewalks [https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-06-16/it-s-time-to-fix-america-s-urban-sidewalk-gap]   Some of Wes’ research on sidewalks: Sidewalk Static Obstructions and Their Impact on Clear Width [https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0361198121991833] Disparate Approaches to Maintaining Roads and Sidewalks: An Interview Study of 16 US Cities [https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/03611981221087239] An Evaluation of Sidewalk Availability and Width: Analyzing Municipal Policy and Disparities [https://ascelibrary.org/doi/abs/10.1061/9780784483152.002] Where the Sidewalks End: Evaluating Pedestrian Infrastructure and Equality [https://rosap.ntl.bts.gov/view/dot/60351] Evaluating Sidewalk Infrastructure & Prioritizing Investment [https://rosap.ntl.bts.gov/view/dot/68688]   And a couple of Wes' sidewalk articles: Bad Sidewalks? City says it’s a YOU problem [https://denver.streetsblog.org/2021/07/08/bad-sidewalks-city-says-its-a-you-problem/] Denver’s Sidewalks Need a lot of Help: Where Do We Start? [https://denver.streetsblog.org/2021/07/15/denvers-sidewalks-need-a-lot-of-help-where-do-we-start/]   Music by Charlie Van Stee (courtesy of bensound) Email us at lookbothwayspod@gmail.com or find us at www.lookbothwayspodcast.com [http://www.lookbothwayspodcast.com], www.davidzipper.com [http://www.davidzipper.com], and www.wesmarshall.org [http://www.wesmarshall.org]

30. apr. 20261 h 4 min
episode Episode 20: Driver Assistance Isn’t Making Us Safer + Shrinking artwork

Episode 20: Driver Assistance Isn’t Making Us Safer + Shrinking

Driver Assistance – David & Wes dig into driver assistance systems and the question of whether they’re actually making our roads safer. Following a recent NTSB hearing, they explore both the promise and the problems, from real potential safety benefits to the very real ways these systems can encourage overtrust. They talk through how “hands-off” can become “mind-off,” why supervising automation is harder than it sounds, and where responsibility really lies when things go wrong.  Other topics: 🔹 The big U.S. city we DON’T want to live in 🔹 The Apple TV show Shrinking & the collateral damage of fatal crashes 🔹 We then open up the mailbag to answer some listener questions Subscribe for biweekly conversations about all things transportation. If you happen to be in Denver on April 21st, come out and see us! Look Both Ways LIVE Podcast Recording + Fundraiser [https://www.eventbrite.com/e/live-podcast-recording-rooftop-fundraiser-look-both-ways-in-denver-tickets-1986676826869] for the Denver Streets Partnership David speaking earlier that same day at The Road Ahead 2026 [https://www.eventbrite.com/e/the-road-ahead-2026-tickets-1983551279272] Additional resources: Systems that let drivers take their hands off the wheel don’t improve safety, NTSB head says [https://apnews.com/article/ford-blue-cruise-ntsb-autonomous-crash-00680c04c9201f3967848b6316ff6a90] Music by Charlie Van Stee (courtesy of bensound) Email us at lookbothwayspod@gmail.com or find us at www.lookbothwayspodcast.com [http://www.lookbothwayspodcast.com], www.davidzipper.com [http://www.davidzipper.com], and www.wesmarshall.org [http://www.wesmarshall.org]

16. apr. 202655 min