Napo Podcast

After the Vote: Unity, Reflection, and the Road Ahead

The results are in. With an 84% turnout, Napo members have voted to accept the latest probation pay offer — with 75.2% in favour and 24.8% against. It’s a decisive outcome, but not a simple one. In this episode, Ian and Ben reflect honestly on what the result means — not just in numbers, but in how members are feeling. From the strength of engagement to the frustrations of those who wanted to go further, this is a conversation about where we are now as a union. Crucially, it’s also about what comes next. How do we build on this moment? How do we bring members back together? And how do we make sure this level of energy leads to real change? A short, immediate response to a big moment for probation staff. Produced and Presented by Taytula Burke

Numbers, power and the future of trade unionism

In this extended episode, we bring together Sarah Woolley (BFAWU), Henry Fowler (GFTU), and Ranjit Singh (NAPO) to explore one of the defining questions facing the movement today: what really builds power? Is it membership numbers or active, organised workers? From historic decline and anti-union legislation to grassroots organising, strike action, and the risks of becoming a “service model”, this conversation goes beyond the surface. Presented and Produced by Taytula Burke

When “Skilled” Isn’t Skilled Enough - new visa rules impacting probation

New immigration rules are putting experienced probation staff at risk of losing their jobs — or even their right to stay in the UK. In this episode, Napo member Stefani explains how recent visa changes, including a £38,700 salary threshold, are affecting overseas colleagues working in probation. We explore the human impact behind the policy, the risks to an already stretched workforce, and why the union is calling for urgent action — including transitional protections for existing staff. This is a conversation about fairness, solidarity, and what it really means to value public service. Presented and Produced by Taytula Burke

Writing from the heart: The essay prize celebrating probation’s reflective voice

The Mike Guilfoyle Essay Prize [https://www.crimeandjustice.org.uk/mike-guilfoyle-prize-1] was created to honour the legacy of a respected probation practitioner who believed deeply in reflection, professionalism and the human side of the job. In this episode, we explore how the prize came about and why it matters. Richard and Mimi from the Centre for Crime and Justice Studies explains the inspiration behind the award, while previous entrants Anne, Ben and Christine discuss what motivated them to take part. They share their experiences of writing about probation practice, the importance of reflecting on professional values, and offer practical advice for anyone thinking of submitting an essay this year. The discussion highlights something often missing in today’s busy probation service: the space to think, reflect and share the real experiences of the profession.

Your Past Is Not Your Future: Lisa’s Story of Second Chances

In this episode, we are joined by Lisa, a former accountant who found herself starting again after prison — unsure of what came next. With support from the Longford Trust [https://www.longfordtrust.org/], she secured a scholarship, gained a mentor, and began studying clinical animal behaviour. In this episode, Lisa talks openly about the importance of education, the impact of a supportive probation officer, accessing counselling through the National Health Service, and the pivotal moment when she realised she needed to forgive herself. A thoughtful and honest conversation about rebuilding confidence, finding purpose, and proving that your past does not define your future.