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No Matter What Happens: A Race Forward Podcast Series

Podcast by Race Forward

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No Matter What Happens: A Race Forward Limited Podcast Series is a five episode series that explores crucial questions about the future of social movements, particularly the racial justice movement. How do we continue to push back against the rise of authoritarianism and safeguard the hard-won victories of recent years? This year has seen a dramatic shift in the political landscape with President Joe Biden's withdrawal from the 2024 election and endorsement of his Vice President Kamala Harris to replace him at the top of the Democratic ticket. Against a backdrop of widespread protests over the United States’ Middle East policies, contentious presidential campaigns, and unsettling instances of political violence, we find ourselves navigating a period of significant uncertainty. The echoes of the 2016 election, when "no matter what happens" became a catchphrase of unpredictability and upheaval, resonate more than ever. As we look back over the past eight years—marked by former President Trump’s felony conviction, a conservative Supreme Court reshaping our nation's framework, and a growing erosion of trust in democratic institutions, this series lifts up the voices of esteemed thought leaders, activists, and former civil servants. Their insights on the election's potential implications and strategies for advancing racial equity in the years ahead will help us navigate the future, "no matter what happens.

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19 episodes

episode Navigating the Tides of Racial Justice Amid Political Shifts with Timothy Green IV artwork

Navigating the Tides of Racial Justice Amid Political Shifts with Timothy Green IV

In this episode, Marsha Guthrie, Senior Director of GARE (Government Alliance on Race and Equity), speaks with Timothy Green IV, Culture Change Leader in the Office of Equity & Inclusion for the City of Albuquerque. Timothy shares his experiences as a government practitioner, emphasizing the importance of deep dialogue, intersectionality, and prioritizing Black women in leadership to drive meaningful change. Together, they explore the strategic shifts necessary to counter heightened political rhetoric and policies while addressing the systemic inequities that persist in democratic systems. The conversation also highlights the transformative role of storytelling and the contributions of artists and intellectuals in shaping movements for equity. Timothy reflects on the need to reconcile historical traumas while fortifying democratic norms against the growing threat of authoritarianism. By centering the resilience of communities and the ongoing fight for civil liberties, this episode offers powerful insights into the intersections of culture, equity, and governance, providing actionable inspiration for listeners committed to justice and inclusion.

28 Jan 2025 - 17 min
episode St. Louis, Solidarity, and Systemic Change with Jeremy Al-Haj artwork

St. Louis, Solidarity, and Systemic Change with Jeremy Al-Haj

In this episode, Rinku Sen, Executive Director of The Narrative Initiative, joins Jeremy Al-Haj, Executive Director of the Missouri Worker’s Center, for a powerful discussion on the significance of hosting the conference in St. Louis. They explore the city’s deep-rooted ties to racial and economic justice movements, highlighting its role as a historical and contemporary battleground for equity and systemic change. Jeremy reflects on the transformative power of multiracial coalitions and workplace organizing as key strategies for dismantling systemic inequities, emphasizing the critical role these efforts play in addressing intersectional challenges tied to race, class, and gender. The conversation also celebrates recent organizing victories in Missouri, such as raising the minimum wage and restoring abortion rights, showcasing the potential for collective action to drive legislative progress even in polarized environments. Together, Rinku and Jeremy examine how national conferences amplify local struggles, foster connections, and energize efforts to build inclusive, democratic spaces.

28 Jan 2025 - 28 min
episode Building Grassroots Power for Public Education and Beyond with Damaris Allen artwork

Building Grassroots Power for Public Education and Beyond with Damaris Allen

In this episode, Anastasia Ordonez, Director of H.E.A.L. (Honest Education Action & Leadership) Together, and Damaris Allen, Executive Director of Families for Strong Public Schools, reflect on the 2024 election results and their far-reaching implications for racial and educational justice. Damaris emphasizes the urgency of grassroots organizing to counter growing threats to public goods like education, which remain under sustained political attack. Anastasia expands the conversation by highlighting the critical intersection of public schools with broader movements, such as climate justice, demonstrating how advocacy for educational equity is deeply connected to larger systemic issues. Together, they outline strategies for strengthening community-based power, shifting from reactive resistance to proactive planning, and building a foundation of resilience to confront challenges ahead. The discussion underscores the importance of collective action in fostering hope and driving transformative change. Anastasia and Damaris explore how public schools serve as a battleground for the broader fight against inequity and authoritarianism, positioning them as key to safeguarding democracy and community well-being. They share insights on mobilizing local communities to reclaim public education and advance a vision of justice that centers the needs of all families, particularly those most marginalized. By linking grassroots organizing with long-term strategies and solidarity across movements, the episode offers actionable pathways to sustain hope and momentum in the fight for a just and equitable future.

28 Jan 2025 - 16 min
episode Collective Power and Solidarity in Challenging Times with Sulma Arias artwork

Collective Power and Solidarity in Challenging Times with Sulma Arias

In this episode, Sulma Arias, Executive Director of People’s Action, and Christi Tran, Chair of Race Forward’s Board of Directors and Senior Adviser at the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation, come together to explore the transformative power of community and solidarity in confronting today’s political challenges. Reflecting on the energy and historical significance of this year’s conference, they delve into the critical importance of building collective power to drive meaningful change. Drawing lessons from past resistance movements, Sulma and Christi discuss how moments of individual and collective reckoning can ignite transformative action. They highlight strategies for organizing a just, multiracial democracy, balancing the urgency of immediate resistance with the need for a long-term vision. Their conversation underscores the importance of resilience, connection, and thoughtful action in navigating an increasingly complex global and political landscape.

28 Jan 2025 - 22 min
episode Revolutionary Generosity: Ramon Ramirez on Building Multiracial Movements for Justice artwork

Revolutionary Generosity: Ramon Ramirez on Building Multiracial Movements for Justice

On the first episode of the second installment of No Matter What Happens: A Race Forward Podcast, Eric Ward, Executive Vice President of Race Forward, sits down with Ramon Ramirez, a Race Forward board member and Coordinator of the Elders Network. Together, they examine the power of multiracial coalitions in confronting the pressing challenges of racial and social justice. Drawing connections between today’s political struggles and historic movements, Ramon reflects on the enduring need for Black-Brown unity and intergenerational collaboration. They explore the role of the Elders Network in mentoring young activists and building resilience in an increasingly polarized climate. Through deeply personal narratives, Eric and Ramon consider a question at the heart of activism: how can revolutionary generosity and care across communities sustain movements for justice?

22 Jan 2025 - 21 min
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