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Opening AI for Language Learning

Podcast by Mathias Schulze, Philip Hubbard

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About Opening AI for Language Learning

Aimed at language educators seeking clarity, practical insights, and critical reflections in the rapidly changing AI landscape, the Opening AI for Language Learning (OAILL) podcast explores the evolving intersection of linguistics, pedagogy, and AI in language teaching and learning. Initiated by the Language and Applied Research Center at San Diego State University (SDSU-LARC), it features hosts Mat Schulze, Professor of German and Director of SDSU-LARC, and Phil Hubbard, Senior Lecturer Emeritus at the Stanford University Language Center, longtime colleagues with decades of experience in technology for language education. In place of the all-too-common hype surrounding AI, they offer conversations in which they and occasional guests share their research and practice-informed perspectives, commentaries on others’ work, and their own professional and personal AI experiences.We are grateful for the support for Opening AI for Language Learning by the Language and Applied Research Center at San Diego State University and the Southern Area International Languages Network – SAILN – which is part of the California World Languages Project.Our producer and editor is Chris Brown. Mari Ocando Finol is the production coordinator of OAILL. Our music was composed by Tillmann Spiegl. Live conversations are moderated and the podcast is promoted by Shahnaz Ahmadeian.Episodes drop on Tuesday every 2 weeks.And remember: Artificial intelligence is no substitute for natural ignorance.Links:Phil Hubbard: https://web.stanford.edu/~efs/phil/Mat Schulze: https://pantarhei.press/mat/The PantaRhei.press blog about OAILL: https://pantarhei.press/oaill/The SAILN website about OAILL: https://larc.sdsu.edu/oaill/

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5 episodes

episode AI and professional development according to Glenn Stockwell artwork

AI and professional development according to Glenn Stockwell

In this episode, Mat and Phil discuss a book chapter by Glenn Stockwell, in which he writes about professional development and learner training for AI, highlighting the importance of ongoing reflection, learning training, and documenting professional growth. Glenn is the editor in chief of the journal Computer Assisted Language Learning and a professor of Applied Linguistics at the Education University of Hong Kong. In this episode: * Glenn Stockwell: https://www.eduhk.hk/en/experts/professor-stockwell-glenn [https://www.eduhk.hk/en/experts/professor-stockwell-glenn] * Glenn Stockwell's chapter: Professional development and learner training. https://castledown.online/reference/9781763711600-12/ [https://castledown.online/reference/9781763711600-12/] * The book with Glenn’s chapter: Yijen Wang, Antonie Alm, and Gilbert Dizon (Eds.), Insights into AI and language teaching and learning. Castledown Publishers. https://castledown.online/reference/9781763711600/ [https://castledown.online/reference/9781763711600/] * Mat’s chapter in the same book: ICALL and AI: Seven lessons from seventy years. https://doi.org/10.29140/9781763711600-02 [https://doi.org/10.29140/9781763711600-02]

12 May 2026 - 32 min
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Welcome to Sustained Integrated Professional Development

Language teachers can build their AI competence through the seven guiding principles of Sustained Integrated Professional Development. From starting small to taking a learner’s perspective, from reflecting critically to working with students and peers, as AI continues to evolve. In this episode: * Principles of GenAI-SIPD by Phil Hubbard and Mat Schulze: https://www.igi-global.com/gateway/article/full-text-html/378304 [https://www.igi-global.com/gateway/article/full-text-html/378304] * Darling-Hammond, L., Hyler, M. E., & Gardner, M. (2017). Effective teacher professional development. Learning Policy Institute. DOI: 10.54300/122.311 https://learningpolicyinstitute.org/sites/default/files/product-files/Effective_Teacher_Professional_Development_REPORT.pdf [https://learningpolicyinstitute.org/sites/default/files/product-files/Effective_Teacher_Professional_Development_REPORT.pdf] * Matherson, L. H., Wilson, E. K., & Wright, V. H. (2014). Need TPACK? Embrace sustained professional development. Delta Kappa Gamma Bulletin, 81(1). * Mollick, E. (2024) Co-Intelligence. Living and Working with AI. https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/741805/co-intelligence-by-ethan-mollick/ [https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/741805/co-intelligence-by-ethan-mollick/]

28 Apr 2026 - 31 min
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GenAI stuff you need to know now (part 1)

Learning about GenAI? Mat and Phil talk about the first four (of ten) knowledge areas and skills language teachers should aim to have now: prompting, ethics, chatbots, and translation. Combining practical examples with theoretical insights, they discuss these knowledge areas and skills in more detail than they could give in their paper: AI and the future of language teaching: Motivating Sustained Integrated Professional Development (SIPD). This is the second episode of the series and also the second discussion of the position paper on SIPD; episode 1 looked at the technical underpinnings of GenAI. In this episode: * Hubbard & Schulze (2025). AI and the future of language teaching: Motivating Sustained Integrated Professional Development. International Journal for Computer Assisted Language Learning and Teaching https://www.igi-global.com/gateway/article/full-text-html/378304 [https://www.igi-global.com/gateway/article/full-text-html/378304] * UNESCO. (2024). AI competency framework for teachers. UNESCO Publishing. Available at https://unesdoc.unesco.org/ark:/48223/pf0000391104 [https://unesdoc.unesco.org/ark:/48223/pf0000391104] * Educause Framework for AI literacy in teaching and learning (2024) https://www.educause.edu/content/2024/ai-literacy-in-teaching-and-learning/faculty-altl [https://www.educause.edu/content/2024/ai-literacy-in-teaching-and-learning/faculty-altl] * ISTE Whitepaper about evolving teacher education in an AI world: https://1818747.fs1.hubspotusercontent-na1.net/hubfs/1818747/2024_ISTE_whitepaper_EvolvingTeacher_Ed_in_an_AI_World.pdf [https://1818747.fs1.hubspotusercontent-na1.net/hubfs/1818747/2024_ISTE_whitepaper_EvolvingTeacher_Ed_in_an_AI_World.pdf] * Paradox Learning AI toolkit for educators: https://paradoxlearning.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/AI-Toolkit-for-Educators_v3.pdf [https://paradoxlearning.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/AI-Toolkit-for-Educators_v3.pdf] * Emily M. Bender & Alex Hanna (2025), The AI Con https://thecon.ai/ [https://thecon.ai/] Additional reading: Ohashi L. & Hubbard P. (2025). Generative AI ethics: Emerging principles for language teachers. In Ohashi L., Hills M., & Dykes R. (Eds.), Artificial intelligence in our language learning classrooms. Candlin & Mynard. https://www.candlinandmynard.com/uploads/1/2/5/0/12502105/chapter_5_open_access.pdf [https://www.candlinandmynard.com/uploads/1/2/5/0/12502105/chapter_5_open_access.pdf] https://www.candlinandmynard.com/genai1.html [https://www.candlinandmynard.com/genai1.html]

31 Mar 2026 - 36 min
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What the LLM?

What is a large language model (LLM), actually? How do these systems work? Why can they feel like human conversation partners, and why is that perception misleading? Mat and Phil open the podcast by answering these questions, and discussing the key implications for language teaching and learning. In this episode: * Phil Hubbard: https://web.stanford.edu/~efs/phil/ [https://web.stanford.edu/~efs/phil/] * Mat Schulze: https://pantarhei.press/mat/https://PantaRhei.press/mat [https://PantaRhei.press/mat] * Emily Bender: https://faculty.washington.edu/ebender/ [https://faculty.washington.edu/ebender/] * Open-access position paper on Sustained Integrated Professional Development for GenAI (GenAI-SIPD): https://www.igi-global.com/gateway/article/378304 [https://www.igi-global.com/gateway/article/378304]

17 Mar 2026 - 40 min
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