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Accounting Basics for Clerks & RFOs (and a Sideline in Playmobil)

39 min · 29. juni 2026
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Stepping into a role that involves public money can feel overwhelming — especially when local council finance comes with its own rules, "proper practices" and terminology that can read like a different language. This episode is the antidote: a friendly, jargon-free walk through the building blocks every Clerk and Responsible Financial Officer needs, pitched squarely at people who are new to the finance side of the role (or want to shore up the fundamentals). As Hannah puts it, you don't need to be a maths whiz — you need to understand the foundations and have the right systems in place. Hannah Driver is Head Accountant at Scribe, where she's spent eight years working day-to-day with parish and town councils of every size. Before Scribe she spent twelve years at Norse, a facilities-management company serving district and county-level councils, and she studied business management (with an accounting bent) at the UEA. Away from the numbers she's a keen fossil hunter — collecting ammonites and jet on the Yorkshire coast — and runs a long-standing Playmobil side hustle, buying, restoring and reselling sets. The heart of the episode is a whole-year overview of council finance. Hannah starts with what makes council accounting different and the role of the RFO, then clarifies the distinction that trips people up most: receipts and payments (cash accounting — what happened, when it happened) versus income and expenditure (which considers the period a transaction relates to, with debtor and creditor adjustments). If Box 7 and Box 8 on your AGAR match, you're almost certainly in receipts and payments; if they differ, you're in income and expenditure. Councils under £200,000 gross can use receipts and payments; go over for three consecutive years and you must move to income and expenditure (and restate the prior year when you switch). From there she makes the case that the cashbook is the single most important accounting record a council keeps — do it little and often, split out the VAT, keep a full audit trail of invoices, reconcile to the bank monthly, and structure it around your budget codes so budget-versus-actual reporting is easy. The VAT section covers both non-registered councils (reclaiming via Form 126 on the Government Gateway, whole calendar months, claims going back up to four years) and registered councils (VATable income like a car park, café or bar; the £1,000 output-tax trigger; Making Tax Digital; aligning VAT quarters to 31 March). Hannah rounds out the practical content with the asset register — the record behind Box 9 (Box 12 in Wales), why there's no depreciation in council accounting, the £1 proxy value for gifted or community assets, and using it to plan renewals — and reserves: a general reserve of roughly three to twelve months' expenditure, earmarked reserves for specific projects and asset renewals, and capital reserves (including the rule that asset-disposal proceeds over £10k must sit in a capital reserve). The golden rule: reserves must be justifiable, not just money sitting in the bank with no plan. The episode also includes a quick overview of the Scribe accounts software from Hannah's colleague India. In the outro, Hannah's one thing to take away is that almost everything flows from a good, accurate, up-to-date cashbook — get that foundation right and the rest falls into place — plus a gentle bit of advice from her younger self: don't overthink it, don't sweat the small stuff, and try to be happy. She also takes on the Pay-it-Forward question and leaves a cracking one of her own. This episode is brought to you by Scribe [https://scribeaccounts.com] and Civic.ly [https://www.civic.ly]. Get the video and slides: Watch the full webinar recording and download the speaker's resources [https://resources.scribeaccounts.com/stepping-into-local-gov-finance-accounting-basics-for-clerks-and-rfos].

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Accounting Basics for Clerks & RFOs (and a Sideline in Playmobil)

Stepping into a role that involves public money can feel overwhelming — especially when local council finance comes with its own rules, "proper practices" and terminology that can read like a different language. This episode is the antidote: a friendly, jargon-free walk through the building blocks every Clerk and Responsible Financial Officer needs, pitched squarely at people who are new to the finance side of the role (or want to shore up the fundamentals). As Hannah puts it, you don't need to be a maths whiz — you need to understand the foundations and have the right systems in place. Hannah Driver is Head Accountant at Scribe, where she's spent eight years working day-to-day with parish and town councils of every size. Before Scribe she spent twelve years at Norse, a facilities-management company serving district and county-level councils, and she studied business management (with an accounting bent) at the UEA. Away from the numbers she's a keen fossil hunter — collecting ammonites and jet on the Yorkshire coast — and runs a long-standing Playmobil side hustle, buying, restoring and reselling sets. The heart of the episode is a whole-year overview of council finance. Hannah starts with what makes council accounting different and the role of the RFO, then clarifies the distinction that trips people up most: receipts and payments (cash accounting — what happened, when it happened) versus income and expenditure (which considers the period a transaction relates to, with debtor and creditor adjustments). If Box 7 and Box 8 on your AGAR match, you're almost certainly in receipts and payments; if they differ, you're in income and expenditure. Councils under £200,000 gross can use receipts and payments; go over for three consecutive years and you must move to income and expenditure (and restate the prior year when you switch). From there she makes the case that the cashbook is the single most important accounting record a council keeps — do it little and often, split out the VAT, keep a full audit trail of invoices, reconcile to the bank monthly, and structure it around your budget codes so budget-versus-actual reporting is easy. The VAT section covers both non-registered councils (reclaiming via Form 126 on the Government Gateway, whole calendar months, claims going back up to four years) and registered councils (VATable income like a car park, café or bar; the £1,000 output-tax trigger; Making Tax Digital; aligning VAT quarters to 31 March). Hannah rounds out the practical content with the asset register — the record behind Box 9 (Box 12 in Wales), why there's no depreciation in council accounting, the £1 proxy value for gifted or community assets, and using it to plan renewals — and reserves: a general reserve of roughly three to twelve months' expenditure, earmarked reserves for specific projects and asset renewals, and capital reserves (including the rule that asset-disposal proceeds over £10k must sit in a capital reserve). The golden rule: reserves must be justifiable, not just money sitting in the bank with no plan. The episode also includes a quick overview of the Scribe accounts software from Hannah's colleague India. In the outro, Hannah's one thing to take away is that almost everything flows from a good, accurate, up-to-date cashbook — get that foundation right and the rest falls into place — plus a gentle bit of advice from her younger self: don't overthink it, don't sweat the small stuff, and try to be happy. She also takes on the Pay-it-Forward question and leaves a cracking one of her own. This episode is brought to you by Scribe [https://scribeaccounts.com] and Civic.ly [https://www.civic.ly]. Get the video and slides: Watch the full webinar recording and download the speaker's resources [https://resources.scribeaccounts.com/stepping-into-local-gov-finance-accounting-basics-for-clerks-and-rfos].

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